Citius Altius Fortius Posted August 25, 2006 Report Share Posted August 25, 2006 We speak most of the times about the Olympic Games, but what is with the sessions of the IOC? Had been your country a hosting city in the past? How many times hosted your country? Are there cities, which hosted a session before it hosted Olympic Games? Which past hosts would be capable to host future olympic games? etc. etc. Here are they: 1894 - Paris, France 1896 - Athens, Greece 1897 - Le Havre, France 1901 - Paris, France 1902 - Paris, France 1903 - Paris, France 1904 - London, United Kingdom 1905 - Brussels, Belgium 1906 - Athens, Greece 1907 - Den Haag, Netherlands 1908 - London, United Kingdom 1909 - Berlin, Germany 1910 - Luxembourg, Luxembourg 1911 - Budapest, Hungary (Austria-Hungary) 1912 - Stockholm, Sweden 1913 - Lausanne, Switzerland 1914 - Paris, France 1919 - Lausanne, Switzerland 1920 - Antwerp, Belgium 1921 - Lausanne, Switzerland 1922 - Paris, France 1923 - Rome, Italy 1924 - Paris, France 1925 - Prague, Czechoslovakia 1926 - Lisbon, Portugal 1927 - Monaco, Monaco 1928 - Amsterdam, Netherlands 1929 - Lausanne, Switzerland 1930 - Berlin, Germany 1931 - Barcelona, Spain 1932 - Los Angeles, United States 1933 - Vienna, Austria 1934 - Athens, Greece 1935 - Oslo, Norway 1936 - Garmisch-Partenkirchen, Germany 1936 - Berlin, Germany 1937 - Warsaw, Poland 1938 - Cairo, Egypt 1939 - London, United Kingdom 1946 - Lausanne, Switzerland 1947 - Stockholm, Sweden 1948 - St. Moritz, Switzerland 1948 - London, United Kingdom 1949 - Rome, Italy 1950 - Copenhagen, Denmark 1951 - Vienna, Austria 1952 - Oslo, Norway 1952 - Helsinki, Finland 1953 - Mexico-City, Mexico 1954 - Athens, Greece 1955 - Paris, France 1956 - Cortina d'Ampezzo, Italy 1956 - Melbourne, Australia 1957 - Sofia, Bulgaria 1958 - Tokyo, Japan 1959 - Munich, Germany 1960 - San Francisco, United States 1961 - Athens, Greece 1962 - Moscow, Soviet Union 1963 - Baden-Baden, Germany 1964 - Innsbruck, Austria 1964 - Tokyo, Japan 1965 - Madrid, Spain 1966 - Rome, Italy 1967 - Teheran, Iran 1968 - Grenoble, France 1968 - Mexico-City, Mexico 1969 - Warsaw, Poland 1970 - Amsterdam, Netherlands 1971 - Luxembourg, Luxembourg 1972 - Sapporo, Japan 1972 - Munich, Germany 1973 - Varna, Bulgaria 1974 - Vienna, Austria 1975 - Lausanne, Switzerland 1976 - Innsbruck, Austria 1976 - Montreal, Canada 1977 - Prague, Czechoslovakia 1978 - Athens, Greece 1979 - Montevideo, Uruguay 1980 - Lake Placid, United States 1980 - Moscow, Soviet Union 1981 - Baden-Baden, Germany 1982 - Rome, Italy 1983 - New Delhi, India 1984 - Sarajevo, Yugoslavia 1984 - Los Angeles, United States 1984 - Lausanne, Switzerland 1985 - Berlin, Germany 1987 - Lausanne, Switzerland 1987 - Istanbul, Turkey 1988 - Calgary, Canada 1988 - Seoul, Korea 1989 - San Juan, Puerto Rico 1990 - Tokyo, Japan 1991 - Birmingham, United Kingdom 1992 - Albertville, France 1992 - Barcelona, Spain 1993 - Lausanne, Switzerland (100.) 1993 - Monaco, Monaco 1994 - Lillehammer, Norway 1994 - Paris, France 1995 - Budapest, Hungary 1996 - Atlanta, United States 1997 - Lausanne, Switzerland 1998 - Nagano, Japan 1999 - Lausanne, Switzerland 1999 - Seoul, Korea 1999 - Lausanne, Switzerland 2000 - Sydney, Australia 2001 - Moscow, Russia 2002 - Salt Lake City, United States 2002 - Mexico-City, Mexico 2003 - Prague, Czech Republik 2004 - Athens, Greece 2005 - Singapore, Singapore 2006 - Torino, Italy 2007 - Guatemala City, Guatemala Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baron-pierreIV Posted August 25, 2006 Report Share Posted August 25, 2006 Thanks, CAF. I believe there's an error somewhere here: "1981 - Baden-Baden, Germany 1982 - Rome, Italy 1983 - New Delhi, India 1984 - Sarajevo, Yugoslavia 1984 - Los Angeles, United States 1984 - Lausanne, Switzerland 1985 - Berlin, Germany 1987 - Lausanne, Switzerland" Wouldn't that be: 1981 - Berlin 1985 - Lausanne 1986 - this year I know was held in Baden-Baden where they held the most famously unbiased site-selection election in Olympic history, with the 1992 Winter going to Albertville and Barcelona beating Paris for the Summer. Quelle surprise! Also, we can add: 2008 - Beijing 2009 - Copenhagen (2nd one, 59 years later) 2010 - Vankoofah, Canada 2011 - ? (this would have to be Africa or Asia) 2012 - London, UK Strangely, looking at that list, Africa and South America have hosted only once each (1938 and 1979, respectively). Of the major nations, odd that Brazil has not hosted any. Also, most hosted: 1. Lausanne, Suisse (11x) 2. Paris, France (9x) 3. London (5x by 2016) ah, rivet-counting... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faster Posted August 25, 2006 Report Share Posted August 25, 2006 Its funny that Lausanne hosted in both 1919 and 1946, was it the headquaters already for the IOC in those years? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Citius Altius Fortius Posted August 25, 2006 Author Report Share Posted August 25, 2006 Thanks, CAF. I believe there's an error somewhere here: "1981 - Baden-Baden, Germany 1982 - Rome, Italy 1983 - New Delhi, India 1984 - Sarajevo, Yugoslavia 1984 - Los Angeles, United States 1984 - Lausanne, Switzerland 1985 - Berlin, Germany 1987 - Lausanne, Switzerland" Wouldn't that be: 1981 - Berlin 1985 - Lausanne 1986 - this year I know was held in Baden-Baden where they held the most famously unbiased site-selection election in Olympic history, with the 1992 Winter going to Albertville and Barcelona beating Paris for the Summer. Quelle surprise! I looked that up in another source, it seems that there was no session in 1986 Its funny that Lausanne hosted in both 1919 and 1946, was it the headquaters already for the IOC in those years? The headquarter of the IOC is since 1915 in Lausanne... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baron-pierreIV Posted August 25, 2006 Report Share Posted August 25, 2006 I looked that up in another source, it seems that there was no session in 1986 So I guess it was just the "Site Selection' conclave in Baden-Baden. I guess El Jefe wanted no distractions whatsoever in the 'free' election of his home city! Or did he have the records expunged? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faster Posted August 25, 2006 Report Share Posted August 25, 2006 So I guess it was just the "Site Selection' conclave in Baden-Baden. I guess El Jefe wanted no distractions whatsoever in the 'free' election of his home city! Or did he have the records expunged? Mind you as city that hated him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olympian Posted August 25, 2006 Report Share Posted August 25, 2006 1981 was held in Baden-Baden. 1986 was in Lausanne. You can check this link from GB, http://www.gamesbids.com/english/archives/past.shtml Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baron-pierreIV Posted August 26, 2006 Report Share Posted August 26, 2006 1981 was held in Baden-Baden. 1986 was in Lausanne. You can check this link from GB, http://www.gamesbids.com/english/archives/past.shtml Thanks. What a great link. Had no idea that was there. Yeah, I've confused 1981 with 1986; & v-v. My bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ñuto Posted August 26, 2006 Report Share Posted August 26, 2006 So I guess it was just the "Site Selection' conclave in Baden-Baden. I guess El Jefe wanted no distractions whatsoever in the 'free' election of his home city! Or did he have the records expunged? was in Lausanne,was public and was a free,logical,natural and very fortunate and correct election. your obsession with the marquis of Samaranch is grave...a problem between aristocrats? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fox334 Posted August 28, 2006 Report Share Posted August 28, 2006 By Vankoofah I assume you mean Vancouver... And, ñuto, sorry, but it is quite clear that Samaranch wase quite biasse and, in my opignon, Sofia would have been a far bether host that Albertville... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ñuto Posted August 28, 2006 Report Share Posted August 28, 2006 By Vankoofah I assume you mean Vancouver...And, ñuto, sorry, but it is quite clear that Samaranch wase quite biasse and, in my opignon, Sofia would have been a far bether host that Albertville... yes,perhaps Sofia would have been better option that Albertville,but two negatives to the grandeur de la France could have been too much... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOlympiadsW Posted August 28, 2006 Report Share Posted August 28, 2006 was in Lausanne,was public and was a free,logical,natural and very fortunate and correct election.your obsession with the marquis of Samaranch is grave...a problem between aristocrats? are you kidding NUTo?.....those two elections on that day were unquestionably the most BIASED voting to ever take place within the IOC, run by none other than Dictator Samaranch...thank goddness his little tactics failed last year in Singapore, and will once again in Copenhagen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ñuto Posted August 28, 2006 Report Share Posted August 28, 2006 are you kidding NUTo?.....those two elections on that day were unquestionably the most BIASED voting to ever take place within the IOC, run by none other than Dictator Samaranch...thank goddness his little tactics failed last year in Singapore, and will once again in Copenhagen no,I´m not kidding.your opinion is irrational. bye Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baron-pierreIV Posted August 28, 2006 Report Share Posted August 28, 2006 your obsession with the marquis of Samaranch is grave...a problem between aristocrats? Probably. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOlympiadsW Posted August 28, 2006 Report Share Posted August 28, 2006 no,I´m not kidding.your opinion is irrational.bye ummm that isn't an opinion, but rather a FACT, wihtout Samarnch's little "influence" (if that's not the understatement of the year) at that session Albertville and Barcelona would not have hosted 1992.....that is a FACT..... but be dismissive and live in your little Madrid/Spain oriented bubble...what else is new Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faster Posted August 28, 2006 Report Share Posted August 28, 2006 If 1992 went properly it would have be Paris 1992 and Falun 1992. The 1992 to 2000 games elections where all dubious. If it had gone by the bid books 1992 - Paris 1992 - Falun 1994 - Anchorage *1 1996 - Athens 1998 - Quebec City 2000 - Beijing *2 2002 - Sion 2004 - Rome 2006 - Helsinki*3 2008 - Toronto 2010 - Pyeongchang 2012 - London 2014 - Sochi 2016 - Chicago 2018 - Oslo/Lillehammer/Trondheim/Tromso 2020 - Tokyo 2022 - Denver *1 Lillehammer was heavily pushed by Samaranch because of the royal connections with the bid *2 even though some think that Sydney getings the games was a backlash towards Samaranch pushing Beijing to hard, but it happened again in 2008 and Beijing got them so that thought is dubious *3God knows, since the two voting candidates were both out by 1992 and 2004, so it would have probably gone to Helsinki even if the IOC hadn't have liked the plan Of course this is just based on the bidding history, of course if things hadn't went screwy in 1992 and 1996 the US would have probably tried to get the games by 2008. Though I am not sure how many people would prefer that list to the one we have because of the monkey business between 1986 and 1990. I would much rather have had the great games that Lillehammer, Sydney and Salt Lake City put on then to have had everything proper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baron-pierreIV Posted August 28, 2006 Report Share Posted August 28, 2006 Faster, your pitas are burning. Better mind the job or you'll have to send out another 400 resumes until the next one! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faster Posted August 28, 2006 Report Share Posted August 28, 2006 Faster, your pitas are burning. Better mind the job or you'll have to send out another 400 resumes until the next one! hasn't started yet and whats your problem, i support you and your thought that Samaranch corrupted the 1992 vote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baron-pierreIV Posted August 28, 2006 Report Share Posted August 28, 2006 hasn't started yetand whats your problem, i support you and your thought that Samaranch corrupted the 1992 vote It's just amazing how much thought you've put into this. But we've had a similar thread before: What if 1996 indeed had gone to Athems? So all the wudda-shudda-kooddas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faster Posted August 28, 2006 Report Share Posted August 28, 2006 It's just amazing how much thought you've put into this. But we've had a similar thread before: What if 1996 indeed had gone to Athems? So all the wudda-shudda-kooddas. I remember that, I think I started it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baron-pierreIV Posted August 28, 2006 Report Share Posted August 28, 2006 I remember that, I think I started it. Nope; I did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ñuto Posted August 29, 2006 Report Share Posted August 29, 2006 If 1992 went properly it would have be Paris 1992 and Falun 1992. The 1992 to 2000 games elections where all dubious.If it had gone by the bid books 1992 - Paris 1992 - Falun 1994 - Anchorage *1 1996 - Athens 1998 - Quebec City 2000 - Beijing *2 2002 - Sion 2004 - Rome 2006 - Helsinki*3 2008 - Toronto 2010 - Pyeongchang 2012 - London 2014 - Sochi 2016 - Chicago 2018 - Oslo/Lillehammer/Trondheim/Tromso 2020 - Tokyo 2022 - Denver *1 Lillehammer was heavily pushed by Samaranch because of the royal connections with the bid *2 even though some think that Sydney getings the games was a backlash towards Samaranch pushing Beijing to hard, but it happened again in 2008 and Beijing got them so that thought is dubious *3God knows, since the two voting candidates were both out by 1992 and 2004, so it would have probably gone to Helsinki even if the IOC hadn't have liked the plan Of course this is just based on the bidding history, of course if things hadn't went screwy in 1992 and 1996 the US would have probably tried to get the games by 2008. Though I am not sure how many people would prefer that list to the one we have because of the monkey business between 1986 and 1990. I would much rather have had the great games that Lillehammer, Sydney and Salt Lake City put on then to have had everything proper the Barcelona bid was better that the Paris one and this election was clear and correct,nobody with common sense can doubt it.this new pollemic is absurd and based in your prejudices againts Spain... everybody knows that the Samaranch ´s preference for 1994 WOG was Orstensund,no Lillehammer,for these questions I recommend you the book "Olympic Revolution" (Pavilion,London 1992) of David Miller,Chief Sport Correspondent of "The Times"... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fox334 Posted August 29, 2006 Report Share Posted August 29, 2006 Sorry, but the only reason that Albertville got the games is to make shure Paris would not gat theme, thats it, end of the story. Your dear Samaranch would have NEVER suported Albertville if it wasen't for his hometown Barcelona biding. I am not doubting the quality of the Barcelona bid or games, just the quality of the election... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikel Posted August 31, 2006 Report Share Posted August 31, 2006 are you kidding NUTo?.....those two elections on that day were unquestionably the most BIASED voting to ever take place within the IOC, run by none other than Dictator Samaranch...thank goddness his little tactics failed last year in Singapore, and will once again in Copenhagen It was a pity that his little tactics didn't fail in San Juan in 1989, when your 'adorable' Atlanta was proclamed host city of the horrible Centennial Games. Samaranch always try to boost your 'adorable' city and we see the result. He also boosted Sydney for 2000 and we saw what a magnificent Olympics they were. And of course, Barcelona 1992. And, one thing, can your remember the Budapest 1995 Session? His little tactics (that time related with money from a city of Utah) didn't fail, too. So, don't come here talking about 'un-biased' votings... we have see a lot of un-biased votings, and not only Laussanne'86. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baron-pierreIV Posted August 31, 2006 Report Share Posted August 31, 2006 The election of Atlanta as the host of the 1996 Centennial Olympic Games as it sits on the history books and records, per the IOC... The True Facts behind the choice of Atlanta as the Excellent 1996 Host per the IOC and not distorted by some unhappy Spaniards... Move on, Mikel. It's not healthy for you, and you can't rewrite history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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