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Great vids, it's the first time i watch the pre-show of this great ceremonies. Thanks christos.

Check out this vid. It's from the BBC news (i think) of the Opening Ceremony of Barcelona 92 olympics. Take a look at 02:34 part. You can see a different perpective from the outside of the stadium when Rebollo shooted the famous flaming arrow, as we know already, the arrow never reached for real the cauldron (anyway, it's still the best lighting of the flame ever)

Not BBC but Australian (maybe Nine). Why? First of all, can you think any other nation other than Australia would have an on-camera interview with Dawn Fraser Jr going into Montjuic Stadium? And what about giving the Aussies marching significant TV news report time with accompanying voiceovers from Bruce McAveney (or was that Sandy Roberts?) and a female commentator (name missing)--I saw shots of legendary Boomers Damian Keough, Shane Heal, and Phil Smyth during that speaking of their freshly casual dress for it (I'm a Yank who happens to have an Aussie obsession)?

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That the arrow didn't fly directly into the cauldron was clear from the beginning -- since you could see the arrow going down behind the cauldron, even in the official camera perspective. I always thought that they had a huge jet of gas shooting out of the cauldron so that when the arrow flew through that jet, the cauldron could be ignited, too.

But what is more important: Look closely at the "different perspective" pictures and you'll see that the flames shot up from the base of the cauldron. Shouldn't it rather be the other way round? When the arrow flew through that (alleged) jet of gas, shouldn't the flame have shot down from that point to the base of the cauldron?

So I think it's true: The cauldron in Barcelona never was ignited by the original Olympic flame, just like the cauldron in Torino.

It's undeniable that the flamed arrow never lit the cauldron, as seen by the stadium's exterior angle. But everytime I watch the official televised video of the arrow rising up the cauldron, I'm not convinced that one actually can see the arrow passing behind it in a descending direction. I see a bit of a flame sparkle falling behind the cauldron but I think it's a consequence of the flame bursting ignition than the arrow itself; just check its path and velocity - that supposed "flamed arrow" appears later than it should.

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It's undeniable that the flamed arrow never lit the cauldron, as seen by the stadium's exterior angle. But everytime I watch the official televised video of the arrow rising up the cauldron, I'm not convinced that one actually can see the arrow passing behind it in a descending direction. I see a bit of a flame sparkle falling behind the cauldron but I think it's a consequence of the flame bursting ignition than the arrow itself; just check its path and velocity - that supposed "flamed arrow" appears later than it should.

That's the thing. After the arrow passes over the cauldron, it doesn’t necessarily descend right away. But instead, it continues on a somewhat horizontal angle for some time (as seen in the perspective from outside the stadium) that would explain the lateness of the "flamed arrow" on the offical video.

But what is more important: Look closely at the "different perspective" pictures and you'll see that the flames shot up from the base of the cauldron. Shouldn't it rather be the other way round? When the arrow flew through that (alleged) jet of gas, shouldn't the flame have shot down from that point to the base of the cauldron, unless of c

So I think it's true: The cauldron in Barcelona never was ignited by the original Olympic flame, just like the cauldron in Torino.

I'm no expert on the field (perhaps someone on here is?), but I would assume that the flame shot from the inside base of the cauldron upwards because that was the direction the alleged jet of gas was being pumped.

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That's the thing. After the arrow passes over the cauldron, it doesn’t necessarily descend right away. But instead, it continues on a somewhat horizontal angle for some time (as seen in the perspective from outside the stadium) that would explain the lateness of the "flamed arrow" on the offical video.

But the official TV camera's angle is ascending (from the plateau up to the cauldron base), so what is a horizontal pathway looks like a descending one. Just imagine this same video excerpt but without the cauldron there - that "flamed arrow" continues to appear later than it should to be the actual arrow.

I'm saying all this just to show that the actual camera shot was very intelligent, they might not have fooled all the stadium audience - positioned in several different angles to notice the arrow not dropping on the cauldron - , but they fooled millions of TV spectators :)

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But the official TV camera's angle is ascending (from the plateau up to the cauldron base), so what is a horizontal pathway looks like a descending one. Just imagine this same video excerpt but without the cauldron there - that "flamed arrow" continues to appear later than it should to be the actual arrow.

I'm saying all this just to show that the actual camera shot was very intelligent, they might not have fooled all the stadium audience - positioned in several different angles to notice the arrow not dropping on the cauldron - , but they fooled millions of TV spectators :)

Millions of those people, perhaps, but it didn't fool me. I mean, what are the chances that the fire tip from the arrow was going to catch all that natural gas pluming out like that? And, I am rather surprised that someone didn't report of what happened to the arrow after that.

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Millions of those people, perhaps, but it didn't fool me. I mean, what are the chances that the fire tip from the arrow was going to catch all that natural gas pluming out like that? And, I am rather surprised that someone didn't report of what happened to the arrow after that.

I don't know about combustion physics, but I think that even a small flying burning match would've ignited the cauldron IF it had been shooting up gas like you're saying. But I don't think it was, seeing how the flames raised up from the cauldron base making it look like it was automatically lit. Anyway, Rebollo was an experienced archer and they did say he practiced "a thousand times", so his chances were quite big and you saw that the arrow did cross over the cauldron.

But I agree with you - there were many people outside the stadium that saw the arrow landing on ... ? ... and didn't say a thing.

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Well, no one ever claimed that the arrow landed in the cauldron (it would have been way to dangerous to try to do that). The arrow is on display at the Olympic Museum in Lausanne BTW.

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What's the big deal? Does anybody remember Albertville earlier in the year then the cauldron ignited just before the lighted ball reached it?

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I do...

I'd like to interrupt this conversation to provide more All Africa Games 2007 Opening Ceremony in Algeria--more specifically The Parade Of Nations

All Africa Games 2007 Part 2 Parade of Nations

All Africa Games 2007 Part 3 Parade of Nations

All Africa Games 2007 Part 4 Parade of Nations

All of the athletes apparently go into the stands or surround the human-shaped African continent. The commentary is Arabic of course from Algerian TV--don't know what network or the commentators though. You'll also notice on Part 4 that after Ethiopia several African nations are missing with the telecast returning with Madagascar to Congo-Brazzaville. Missing nations include (going by the French alphabet with this being Algeria) Kenya, Libya, Liberia, Lesotho, Ghana, Guinea, Guinea-Bissau, Gabon, The Gambia, and Equatorial Guinea. Also, it looks as though Mauritanian weren't marching from what was shown. Anyway, enjoy! :)

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And here's once more a vintage treasure -- three parts of the movie "XVIII Olympiad Tokyo 1964". I'm not quite sure: Is this the official movie of the 1964 Games? However, I hope that the remaining parts are yet to come.

Have fun!

XVIII Olympiad Tokyo 1964 (Part 1)

XVIII Olympiad Tokyo 1964 (Part 2)

XVIII Olympiad Tokyo 1964 (Part 3)

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Great ones thanks!

It's the official movie of Tokyo, I remember it when ERT had showed them all in 2000 before Sydney.And a newspaper gave them as dvds but I didnt get this one.

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I uploaded a video from Montreal 1976 in better quality.They didn't show much from Ceremonies and from the Olympic Flame and the way it was transported from Athens to Canada :( !! I would like to see this!

Montreal '76 parts of ceremonies

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Oh, could you please upload the whole official video, if possible? That would be great!

Sorry Olympian I don't have all the video.But I have the official videos from Moscow, LA, Seoul, Barcelona, Atlanta (half) and Sydney.If you want anything from these tell me.

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Thanks a lot for the new videos! Well, if you like, it would be great of course if you could upload the other official movies, too. But it's not urgent -- so feel free to do it whenever you want.

By the way: It's pretty telling that the Moscow organisers included the segment with all those "boycott protesters" interviews. They want to express their disgust for a political interference into sports, but at the same time they politicise their own movie with that segment. How hypocritical that is can be seen at 1:22 in the second video when they interview the group of "tourists from the Federal Republic of Germany" -- the guy on the left wears a T-shirt with what appears to me as the emblem of a West German socialist party. So there can be no surprise that those "normal German tourists" disapproved of the boycott.

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Christos, about your film of Barcelona, i'm pretty interested on watching the Closing Ceremony, it's pretty hard to find on the net, in Youtube i could find only the Friends for Life song of Sarah Brightman and Josep Carreras after the extinction of the cauldron.

Ceremonies that i'm really, really interested to find are Albertville 92 and Lillehammer 94. The first one is the Athens 2004 Opening Ceremony for the Winter Olympics, very metaphorical and artistic, instead of the classic Broadway-type shows of other ceremonies.

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I'll put more even today too.I'll post the links ;)

Yes rav3n I have Barcelona too, I'll upload from it

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Christos, about your film of Barcelona, i'm pretty interested on watching the Closing Ceremony, it's pretty hard to find on the net, in Youtube i could find only the Friends for Life song of Sarah Brightman and Josep Carreras after the extinction of the cauldron.

Ceremonies that i'm really, really interested to find are Albertville 92 and Lillehammer 94. The first one is the Athens 2004 Opening Ceremony for the Winter Olympics, very metaphorical and artistic, instead of the classic Broadway-type shows of other ceremonies.

Yeah Christos, if you have the Atlanta Handover Presentation at the Barcelona Closing Ceremony that would be amazing

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