Rob2012 Posted January 7 Report Posted January 7 Discuss. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/newsletters/2025-01-07/trump-threatens-denmark-with-tariffs-over-greenland-m5mzp10m 1 Quote
Sir Rols Posted January 7 Report Posted January 7 I think Rob wins the award for best thread title 3 Quote
sebastien1214 Posted January 7 Report Posted January 7 There is also the story of the Panama Canal, and where apparently he does not exclude the possibility of a military intervention. It is obvious that if this were to happen, the Games would immediately have to be withdrawn from LA and the United States would suffer the same fate as Russia and Belarus. But hey, that is in an imaginary world, we know very well how it will happen, i mean Israel is still allowed to participate in the Olympics. Quote
Rob2012 Posted January 7 Author Report Posted January 7 It's disgusting that this man will be opening the next Games. The thought of a yank Games right now is vomit inducing. Quote
Bear Posted January 8 Report Posted January 8 we (california) didn't vote for him 😞 let us keep our games pls, and have our future governor open them instead as was the norm way back then... 1 Quote
Nacre Posted January 8 Report Posted January 8 If only we could put all of the nationalists in the world in a desert somewhere and let them fight to the death while leaving the rest of the world alone. Incidentally, there is absolutely no benefit to the US from owning the Panama Canal or Greenland. American ships can freely use the canal and American businesses can buy fish from Denmark. All without fighting a war against our traditional allies and alienating the rest of the world. This is 100% about narcissistic egoism and "America, F--- Yeah!" Quote
Sir Rols Posted January 8 Report Posted January 8 (edited) Trump threatening Denmark, Panama… and Canada. Musk spewing his poison in the UK, Germany and Oz. Zuckerberg deciding fact checking isn’t worth it any more - truth is obviously too divisive to strive for now. And those of us who should be championing democracy - basically anybody who isn’t a knob-head - seem too numb and resigned to put up much of a defence - as if it’s futile any longer to count on reason to win hearts and minds. Dark f**king days. it’s so hard to be optimistic these days - war, tyranny, famine, disease, natural disaster. Take your pick. And these oligarch jackals only seem interested in cheering it on Edited January 8 by Sir Rols 1 Quote
Australian Kiwi Posted January 8 Report Posted January 8 TBH if he heats things up enough with the EU we may see a boycott. Quote
Rob2012 Posted January 8 Author Report Posted January 8 (edited) Hope you're all safe from these fires and they're extinguished soon. I didn't see that news when starting this thread. I've just searched Google News for Trump fires and Trump Los Angeles. No results, of course. Edited January 8 by Rob2012 Quote
StefanMUC Posted January 8 Report Posted January 8 12 hours ago, Nacre said: Incidentally, there is absolutely no benefit to the US from owning the Panama Canal or Greenland. American ships can freely use the canal and American businesses can buy fish from Denmark. Greenland has natural resources that can be exploited more easily when the ice melts. Plus of course geostrategically it is very well placed. Greenlanders however, as much as they would like full independence, seem to favour left-leaning governments, so not quite the MAGA crowd Don Jr hired for his photo op. 7 hours ago, Sir Rols said: Trump threatening Denmark, Panama… and Canada. Musk spewing his poison in the UK, Germany and Oz. Zuckerberg deciding fact checking isn’t worth it any more - truth is obviously too divisive to strive for now. And those of us who should be championing democracy - basically anybody who isn’t a knob-head - seem too numb and resigned to put up much of a defence - as if it’s futile any longer to count on reason to win hearts and minds. Dark f**king days. it’s so hard to be optimistic these days - war, tyranny, famine, disease, natural disaster. Take your pick. And these oligarch jackals only seem interested in cheering it on Amen. 6 hours ago, Australian Kiwi said: TBH if he heats things up enough with the EU we may see a boycott. LOL. Not the way Europe is heading. Austria is likely to get a fascist led govt soon and the dark shadows in France and Germany cannot be denied either. In a few years, most of us here will live under pro-Putin regimes without him needing to fire a single bullet into NATO. 5 hours ago, Rob2012 said: Hope you're all safe from these fires and they're extinguished soon. I didn't see that news when starting this thread. I've just searched Google News for Trump fires and Trump Los Angeles. No results, of course. If Trump was already President again, he‘d deny help until Californians come begging on their knees to Mar-A-Lago. Quote
Roger87 Posted January 9 Report Posted January 9 MAGA and fire. What a combination for Los Angeles right now. Quote
Nacre Posted January 9 Report Posted January 9 11 hours ago, StefanMUC said: Greenland has natural resources that can be exploited more easily when the ice melts. Plus of course geostrategically it is very well placed. Whatever resources are exploited in Greenland can be purchased by American companies as part of US-EU trade. Denmark is in NATO and the USA has maintained a military station of some sort on Greenland since WW2. There's no need to change Greenland's status to put American aircraft there. There's no rational reason for the USA to try to claim Denmark. Even from a purely self-interested perspective. This is simply Trump wanting to claim territory on a map to appeal to jingoistic nationalists. Quote
StefanMUC Posted January 9 Report Posted January 9 53 minutes ago, Nacre said: Whatever resources are exploited in Greenland can be purchased by American companies as part of US-EU trade. Denmark is in NATO and the USA has maintained a military station of some sort on Greenland since WW2. There's no need to change Greenland's status to put American aircraft there. There's no rational reason for the USA to try to claim Denmark. Even from a purely self-interested perspective. This is simply Trump wanting to claim territory on a map to appeal to jingoistic nationalists. I‘ll just say any resources Ukraine has, Russia could also have purchased. In their own world, it is very rational to aim for territorial expansion as these people have 19th century imperialist mindsets. Let‘s start understanding that and not work only with our own rationale, because then we will get a very nasty surprise. I also have zero trust in arguments that the next few years won‘t be that bad because his first term wasn‘t as bad as feared (Charlottetown or a million Covid deaths might disagree anyway). This time, he and the TwiX guy made sure that noone with half a reputation left will be part of the government and the GOP Congress is much more in line (coerced likely) than before. When I said some time ago (maybe already in 2023?) on here that LA 2028 would be held in Gilead, that was dismissed. But we‘re heading exactly there, the extremists will rule and destroy as enough idle bystanders think the price of eggs is worth losing democracy. 1 Quote
baron-pierreIV Posted January 9 Report Posted January 9 (edited) Twamp, again, is just talking thru his hat . . . and it's red meat for his crowd -- but it's not going to happen. It is absolute lunacy that these things come from the mouth of the re-incoming CEO! But he's always pushing the envelope just to see how far he can get away with things. But with Thune in command of the Senate, even his most outlandish nominees -- RFK, Jr., Engelbert or whatever that one's name is, Gabbard, Kash Patel -- they aren't going to get past the Senate. He can't threaten all the GOP senators. I think some of them will want to quit by 2026 -- and just not having anything to do with this Whackamoo!! You can't really take him seriously for now. He is just deteriorating fast -- and being the senior statesman of his party, they just let him blurt out what he wants . . . drooling saliva and all; and hopefully, his whackamoo "concepts" won't see the light of day. We can all hope he gets a heart attack before June 2026 or July 2028 -- and you know he'd rather shoot himself than show up in public in a wheelchair or assisted. Let's see how he comports himself tomorrow at the National Cathedral services for Jimmy Carter. All the other living presidents can all do a MURDER ON THE ORIENT EXPRESS before global cameras 😀 -- and see what he says or does! They can at least smack him hard in the ribs tomorrow!!! P.S. He really looked fit to be tied -- since he was NOT the genuine center of attention!! What a putz!!! Edited January 9 by baron-pierreIV Quote
Rob2012 Posted January 9 Author Report Posted January 9 (edited) I did think about deleting this thread given what's now happening in LA. But after reading this, if anything, it should really be merged with the wildfires thread.... Six big US banks quit net zero alliance before Trump inauguration The six biggest banks in the US have all quit the global banking industry’s net zero target-setting group, with the imminent inauguration of Donald Trump as president expected to bring political backlash against climate action. Analysts have said the withdrawals are an attempt to head off “anti-wOke” attacks from rightwing US politicians. https://www.theguardian.com/business/2025/jan/08/us-banks-quit-net-zero-alliance-before-trump-inauguration Edited January 9 by Rob2012 Quote
Sir Rols Posted January 9 Report Posted January 9 6 hours ago, Rob2012 said: I did think about deleting this thread given what's now happening in LA. But after reading this, if anything, it should really be merged with the wildfires thread.... He’s already blamed Governor Newsom, Biden and some fish conservation project. So I think this is still highly appropriate. Of course the answer to these type of calamities is to “Drill, Baby Drill!” again on Day 1. 16 hours ago, StefanMUC said: When I said some time ago (maybe already in 2023?) on here that LA 2028 would be held in Gilead, that was dismissed. I remember when @Alexjc introduced his “GILEAD… only one bad recession away” signature just after Trump’s 2016 election (I think it was), I thought it was a bit alarmist at the time. Now it’s proved to be spot-on prophetic. 1 Quote
Rob2012 Posted January 10 Author Report Posted January 10 https://meidasnews.com/news/busted-trumps-greenland-supporters-were-homeless-and-socially-disadvantaged-people-bribed-with-hotel-dinners Quote
Michelle Posted January 10 Report Posted January 10 The premier of Greenland wishes for his state to be an independent country, separate from both Denmark and the United States. it’s quite clear, though, there is not much love for Denmark. For quite clear and obvious reasons, if you look at the history. Quote
StefanMUC Posted January 11 Report Posted January 11 6 hours ago, Michelle said: The premier of Greenland wishes for his state to be an independent country, separate from both Denmark and the United States. it’s quite clear, though, there is not much love for Denmark. For quite clear and obvious reasons, if you look at the history. Conveniently leaving out here that there is not much love for joining the US either. The Trump playbook is the Putin playbook on territorial expansion. One of them is actually more clever in its implementation though. Quote
Alexjc Posted January 11 Report Posted January 11 (edited) Lots of raw emotions coming out here... Don't let America's somewhat beginning of its Rome decline get to you. It would be a heartbreaker for LA to NOT host 2028. (Pretty much bookending my life...LA84 was my first real Olympic experience of memory). LA is strong and resilient...Also not forgetting the place is truly MASSIVE! What a great target event it would be for Angelinos to get it all back together in 2028 as a healing process. We cannot let Snoop Dog down! As for the polarisation and "banged on about" decline of Anglo/Euro Western Society with its sharp and obvious shift to the RIGHT. That IS something to be of concern about. Regional power blocs are well and truly forming, Moreso that the "leader" nation is going through a major social upheaval that could see its decline hastened by Trump Round Two. The last thing we need is USA standing for "Untied States of America" in a couple of years' time and BOTH sides of the house will be to blame for it. That's when extremists make their move...And in the current climate, that would have dire and deadly consequences. (There's your potential Gilead). (As someone who currently is living through painful by design "technical recessions" to lower inflation rates from phenomenally stupid spending sprees of a previous administration...I can clearly see where my once "laidback, easy-going nation that New Zealand was, is heading. It's a very divided and different country now...and a certain woman who took it to the extreme, can never come home. How bad?... Scotguy II went home...To the UK!!! Sheesh!) Edited January 12 by Alexjc Quote
Scotguy II Posted January 11 Report Posted January 11 Greenland should be an independent country in its own right - neither ruled by Denmark or the United States. Quote
Rob2012 Posted January 14 Author Report Posted January 14 https://bsky.app/profile/jimacosta.bsky.social/post/3lfp5sdf4i22k https://bsky.app/profile/gregsargent.bsky.social/post/3lfp7cs3sb22w 1 Quote
StefanMUC Posted January 14 Report Posted January 14 3 hours ago, Rob2012 said: https://bsky.app/profile/jimacosta.bsky.social/post/3lfp5sdf4i22k https://bsky.app/profile/gregsargent.bsky.social/post/3lfp7cs3sb22w Just “woke agenda” in the eyes of some. Quote
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