dave199 Posted July 11, 2006 Report Share Posted July 11, 2006 The new rankings are coming out this Wednesday and FIFA is introducing a new system for calculating the rankings. They are taking into account the last 4 years of competition rather than the 8 years used previously. Under the new system, results will be counted over a four-year period, with weight given to the strength of opponents and calibre of tournaments. Every match will count as three points will be given for a win, one point for a draw and nothing for a loss. Of course they will be factoring in the tournament level and the standard of regional competitions. Also another interesting fact about the new system is that all points from all matches will lose half their value after 12 months. This is supposed to make the rankings more relevant. Brazil is expected to remain #1 even with the Italian WC victory according to a FIFA specialist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rafa Posted July 11, 2006 Report Share Posted July 11, 2006 Well lets predict the rankings seeing that it is based on four years...using 2002 WC 2006WC and euro champs as the major tournaments 1.brazil (2002 W 2006 QF) 2. germany (2002 F 2006 SF) 3. italy (2006 W 2002 QF) 4. France (2006 F ) 5. portugal (euro finalists and 2006 SF) czech republic, holland, england...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cube Posted July 11, 2006 Report Share Posted July 11, 2006 Well lets predict the rankings seeing that it is based on four years...using 2002 WC 2006WC and euro champs as the major tournaments1.brazil (2002 W 2006 QF) 2. germany (2002 F 2006 SF) 3. italy (2006 W 2002 QF) 4. France (2006 F ) 5. portugal (euro finalists and 2006 SF) czech republic, holland, england...? Germany will not be thatz high since the didn´t had any real matches in the past 2 years since the did´nt need to qualify for the WC as Host-nation an friendlies dosn´t bring much points for the ranking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThrillosAG Posted July 11, 2006 Report Share Posted July 11, 2006 Well lets predict the rankings seeing that it is based on four years...using 2002 WC 2006WC and euro champs as the major tournaments1.brazil (2002 W 2006 QF) 2. germany (2002 F 2006 SF) 3. italy (2006 W 2002 QF) 4. France (2006 F ) 5. portugal (euro finalists and 2006 SF) czech republic, holland, england...? Shouldn't more recent accomplishments carry more weight in the rankings than older accomplishments in the total 4 years? Reason I ask is look at Brazil and Italy, both were champions and QFinalists the past 4 years. So shouldn't the current victory by Italy carry more weight in the rankings and therefore bring Italy a higher rank? Just wondering ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRATK Posted July 11, 2006 Report Share Posted July 11, 2006 Brazil and Italy in the top two places... the rest... I don't know... but I hope it will be a better ranking. The only thing I care is Chile be over the 40 teams (it's unbeliveable that we are under Iraq or Canada) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintana Posted July 12, 2006 Report Share Posted July 12, 2006 The new ranking is out. Brazil keeps topspot with Italy moving into second: 1 Brazil 1630 0 803 2 Italy 1550 11 822 3 Argentina 1472 6 726 4 France 1462 4 713 5 England 1434 5 693 6 Netherlands 1322 -3 554 7 Spain 1309 -2 553 8 Portugal 1301 -1 551 9 Germany 1229 10 533 10 Czech Republic 1223 -8 451 11 Nigeria 1149 0 413 12 Cameroon 1109 3 387 13 Switzerland 1028 22 380 14 Uruguay 985 8 296 15 Ukraine 961 30 352 16 USA 933 -11 177 17 Denmark 927 -6 191 18 Mexico 924 -14 166 19 Paraguay 915 14 262 20 Côte d'Ivoire 909 12 240 21 Colombia 902 6 221 22 Sweden 886 -6 177 23 Croatia 854 0 168 24 Guinea 850 27 253 25 Ghana 839 23 239 http://www.fifa.com/en/mens/statistics/ind...rticleid=118178 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colonel Iredale Posted July 12, 2006 Report Share Posted July 12, 2006 The new ranking is out. Brazil keeps topspot with Italy moving into second:1 Brazil 1630 0 803 2 Italy 1550 11 822 3 Argentina 1472 6 726 4 France 1462 4 713 5 England 1434 5 693 6 Netherlands 1322 -3 554 7 Spain 1309 -2 553 8 Portugal 1301 -1 551 9 Germany 1229 10 533 10 Czech Republic 1223 -8 451 11 Nigeria 1149 0 413 12 Cameroon 1109 3 387 13 Switzerland 1028 22 380 14 Uruguay 985 8 296 15 Ukraine 961 30 352 16 USA 933 -11 177 17 Denmark 927 -6 191 18 Mexico 924 -14 166 19 Paraguay 915 14 262 20 Côte d'Ivoire 909 12 240 21 Colombia 902 6 221 22 Sweden 886 -6 177 23 Croatia 854 0 168 24 Guinea 850 27 253 25 Ghana 839 23 239 http://www.fifa.com/en/mens/statistics/ind...rticleid=118178 Thats much better and more realistic than the old version with USA and Mexico being over-rated due to points gained against poor teams in CONCAFE tournaments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
micheal_warren Posted July 12, 2006 Report Share Posted July 12, 2006 i see australia is up 9 places to 33rd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faster Posted July 12, 2006 Report Share Posted July 12, 2006 Thats much better and more realistic than the old version with USA and Mexico being over-rated due to points gained against poor teams in CONCAFE tournaments. Not really it still has Cameroon and Nigeria at 11 and 12. Not really. Germany's ranking is also low, considering they finished ahead of 6 of the teams in front of them and had more wins than any country in the tournament than everyone but Portugal and Italy. Though Germany not playing competitive matches might be the problem but still. AND OMG WTF, WHY THE HELL DID CANDADA JOB 30 SPOTS FROM THE HIGH 80's TO THE MID-50'S??? ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Posted July 12, 2006 Report Share Posted July 12, 2006 There have been some massive gains but also some massives losses for some of the teams. Italy have moved up 11 places to second spot, Germany have moved up ten places but are still only ranked the ninth best team in the world (perhaps because all their World Cup matches were at home). Switzerland and the Ukraine both have have big moves up the table - the Swiss moving up 22 places and the Ukraine a huge 30 places. Some of the African teams see their rankings increase significantly too Ghana and Guinea moving into the top 25 from just making the top 50 before. The America's see the US and Mexico dropping like stones, even Trinidad and Tobago drop 17 places despite holding Sweden in Germany, although Canada's ranking rises 29 places. ....some interesting talking points! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olympian2004 Posted July 12, 2006 Report Share Posted July 12, 2006 I still don't like that ranking system. The ranks should rather be calculated with the results of the past 12 months and not those of the past four years. In four years, so much can change about the strength of a team (just see Brazil or the Czech Republic, for example) that it's simply not appropriate to rely on out-dated data and rank it much higher than it actually is. That's why I'll rely on my personal impressions instead on those artificial rankings also in the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rafa Posted July 12, 2006 Report Share Posted July 12, 2006 wow FIFA gave south africa a ranking of 72 even though the team cant play football...very generous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fox334 Posted July 12, 2006 Report Share Posted July 12, 2006 AND OMG WTF, WHY THE HELL DID CANDADA JOB 30 SPOTS FROM THE HIGH 80's TO THE MID-50'S??? ??? Becose the new calculation system works bether for Canada that the old one. The fact that Canada is in the top 60 is not sureprising, tought: the ELO football ranking system ranked Canada as 58. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRATK Posted July 12, 2006 Report Share Posted July 12, 2006 Mmmm... Chile at place 46º. Not that bad At least, over Japan, Iran, S. Korea and Togo. But I don't get how we could Honduras be in 38th place and Peru in 42th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arwebb Posted July 12, 2006 Report Share Posted July 12, 2006 How can England be fifth? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faster Posted July 12, 2006 Report Share Posted July 12, 2006 Why is Guinea ranked 23? ahead of a second round team from Ghana Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rafa Posted July 12, 2006 Report Share Posted July 12, 2006 fifa cant count. full stop...rankings shud reflect the best team over the last four years excl. WC 2002...a team ranked 5th shud on paper at this moment be able to beat a team ranked 10th..fifa has some way to go to correct the system but they are moving in the right direction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arwebb Posted July 12, 2006 Report Share Posted July 12, 2006 We haven't played the Czech Republic for many years and we beat them the last time we did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BethnalGreen Posted July 12, 2006 Report Share Posted July 12, 2006 I still don't like that ranking system. The ranks should rather be calculated with the results of the past 12 months and not those of the past four years. In four years, so much can change about the strength of a team (just see Brazil or the Czech Republic, for example) that it's simply not appropriate to rely on out-dated data and rank it much higher than it actually is.That's why I'll rely on my personal impressions instead on those artificial rankings also in the future. I totally agree with you Olympian. I have the same thoughts on this. Whilst I guess I am pleased with England being 5th, it seems ironic that when we have played better we have struggled in the rankings and now we play crap, we go up to 5th. Go figure... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Rols Posted July 12, 2006 Report Share Posted July 12, 2006 i see australia is up 9 places to 33rd Well, that puts Oz now as the highest-ranked Asian side. It'll be interesting to see if we can maintain that now through the Asian Confederation qualifiers and Asian Cup. There's been some dummy spitting in Oz about how some think we should be ranked higher, but I reckon it's just about right _ it's not like beating the Solomon Islands or Tahiti should automatically qualify us for a top 10 placing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faster Posted July 12, 2006 Report Share Posted July 12, 2006 Well, that puts Oz now as the highest-ranked Asian side. It'll be interesting to see if we can maintain that now through the Asian Confederation qualifiers and Asian Cup. There's been some dummy spitting in Oz about how some think we should be ranked higher, but I reckon it's just about right _ it's not like beating the Solomon Islands or Tahiti should automatically qualify us for a top 10 placing! I think that both Korea's and especially Japan's ranking does not reflect there actually standing. It will be a three-way battle for the Asian Cup between those three with Australia and Japan probably fighting it out for the top spot. I would give it to Australia just because. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
micheal_warren Posted July 13, 2006 Report Share Posted July 13, 2006 Well, that puts Oz now as the highest-ranked Asian side. It'll be interesting to see if we can maintain that now through the Asian Confederation qualifiers and Asian Cup. There's been some dummy spitting in Oz about how some think we should be ranked higher, but I reckon it's just about right _ it's not like beating the Solomon Islands or Tahiti should automatically qualify us for a top 10 placing! na i think australias ranking is about right! Poor old new zealand is ranked about 116 up 1 place from last time lol. We just dont get enough game time! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aronious Posted July 13, 2006 Report Share Posted July 13, 2006 33 is a good change, hopefully another second round appearance in South Africa should thrust into the 20's or high teens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob2012 Posted July 13, 2006 Report Share Posted July 13, 2006 Based on the last three tournaments (knocked out in the quarters in all three) England should really be 8th as that's where we always finish! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olympian2004 Posted July 13, 2006 Report Share Posted July 13, 2006 Based on the last three tournaments (knocked out in the quarters in all three) England should really be 8th as that's where we always finish! So you see: Those rankings are still the same old sh*t they used to be. Maybe with some rank changes, but the calculation method is still senseless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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