Rob2012 Posted March 25 Report Posted March 25 As pretty as this is, there is no way it will end up looking like this. Expect much bigger concourses (certainly in Games-mode where you'll have people attending different sessions and entering and exiting the park at the same time). Expect also much more space around the stadium for crowd flows and security checks etc. The green space campaigners are going to be more pissed off when actual designs are realised imo. Perhaps in legacy mode this render is a little more true to how it could look but honestly, this render feels designed to keep the heat off when it comes to loss of green space rather than a realistic depiction of what's likely... Quote
Olympic Fan Darcy Posted March 25 Report Posted March 25 1 hour ago, Victorian said: Brisbane Live is not dead. They are going to private sector to fund it. Apologies I edited my post a few times and removed the part where I had that. Yes, will be built post 2032. Gabba will hold the cricket as its swansong and then private sector will build Brisbane Live post games Quote
Olympic Fan Darcy Posted March 25 Report Posted March 25 29 minutes ago, Rob2012 said: As pretty as this is, there is no way it will end up looking like this. Expect much bigger concourses (certainly in Games-mode where you'll have people attending different sessions and entering and exiting the park at the same time). Expect also much more space around the stadium for crowd flows and security checks etc. The green space campaigners are going to be more pissed off when actual designs are realised imo. Perhaps in legacy mode this render is a little more true to how it could look but honestly, this render feels designed to keep the heat off when it comes to loss of green space rather than a realistic depiction of what's likely... Yeah this original image doesn't factor in a lot of things, most importantly, the new 25,000 seat Aquatic stadium at Centenary pool in Spring Hill. Quote
Victorian Posted March 25 Report Posted March 25 10 minutes ago, Olympic Fan Darcy said: Apologies I edited my post a few times and removed the part where I had that. Yes, will be built post 2032. Gabba will hold the cricket as its swansong and then private sector will build Brisbane Live post games Incorrect. The Brisbane Live Arena is not at the Gabba location, it is next to the Gabba at the goprint site. Wlll be built for 2032. 1 1 Quote
AustralianFan Posted March 25 Author Report Posted March 25 2 hours ago, Victorian said: Incorrect. The Brisbane Live Arena is not at the Gabba location, it is next to the Gabba at the goprint site. Wlll be built for 2032. Correct @Victorian. @Olympic Fan Darcy @yoshi Premier David Crisafulli said yesterday there is keen interest from the private sector to build it and so the Queensland Government will immediately initiate a market led proposal process to build the Brisbane Live Arena on the Goprint site next to the Gabba. So Brisbane Live Arena is highly likely to be be built and ready before the Games. Quote
AustralianFan Posted March 25 Author Report Posted March 25 UPDATED New Games Delivery Plan As announced by the Queensland Government at the Courier Mail ‘Future Brisbane’ event at Howard Smith Wharves 25 March 2025 DECISION New Olympic Stadium Victoria Park (Barrambin) Track and Field 63,000 capacity in legacy mode Warm-up track nearby New National Aquatic Centre Centenary Pool, Spring Hill 25,000 capacity Swimming main stadium boosted with temporary seats Artistic Swimming, Diving and Water Polo to be hosted in the secondary stadium. Brisbane Live Arena keen interest from the private sector to build Brisbane Live Arena Queensland Government will immediately proceed with a Market Led Proposal for a future Brisbane Live Arena on the goprint site near the Gabba Brisbane Athletes Village . adjacent to Brisbane Showgrounds private public partnership Brisbane Aquatic Centre, Chandler . it is uncertain what role Brisbane Aquatic Centre will have other than as a training venue Brisbane Indoor Sports Centre . looks like this new venue will not proceed Brisbane Showgrounds . the Brisbane Showgrounds will be upgraded including a 20,000 capacity arena 3x3 Basketball . remains at South Bank Piazza Archery to be moved to Maryborough plenty of accommodation options 20 minutes away at Hervey Bay approximately 100 Archery athletes Badminton, Fencing, Paralympic Judo, Taekwondo, Table Tennis . remains at the Brisbane Convention and Exhibition Centre Ballymore the venue no longer will host Hockey which has been moved to Gold Coast Basketball preliminaries to be played at the new Gold Coast Arena finals to be played at Brisbane Entertainment Centre Beach Volleyball, Paralympic Football Five-a-side . remains at Broadbeach Park Stadium, Gold Coast BMX Freestyle . to be moved from Victoria Park to another location to be determined BMX Racing . remains at the Chandler Outdoor Precinct Cairns Basketball preliminaries will be hosted at Cairns Basketball Stadium Football will also be hosted at an upgraded Barlow Park Canoe Slalom . Canoe Slalom will remain at the new Redland Whitewater Centre Chandler Indoor Sports Centre . to become a Paralympic Sporting Centre of Excellence Cycling . Track Cycling remains at Anna Meares Velodrome, Chandler Equestrian moved to a new Toowoomba Equestrian Centre of Excellence to be located at Toowoomba Showgrounds Gabba the government will keep the Gabba operational to host Olympic Cricket as it’s swansong Gold Coast Arena . this new venue will proceed and will host basketball preliminaries funded by Gold Coast City Council Gold Coast Athletes Village . moved from Robina to Royal Pines Gold Coast Stadium . remains as host of Football Golf . remains at Royal Queensland Golf Course Gymnastics . Gymnastics remains at Chandler Indoor Sports Centre Handball was meant to be at Brisbane Entertainment Centre but it is uncertain now where Handball will be played Hockey moved to Gold Coast at an upgraded venue on the site of the 2018 CWG Hockey competition. International Broadcast Centre (IBC) . remains in South Brisbane on the site of Visy Glass Judo, Paralympic Boccia, Wrestling . remains at the Gold Coast Sports and Leisure Centre Logan Indoor Sports Centre . this venue will proceed it may be a training or a competition venue Mackay . Harrup Park to be upgraded to host Olympic Cricket Main Press Centre (MPC) . remains at the Brisbane Convention and Exhibition Centre Melbourne . Football to remain at AAIMI Park Modern Pentathlon . remains at Brighton Homes Arena, Ipswich, home of the Brisbane Lions AFL Team Moreton Bay Indoor Sports Centre this venue will proceed likely to host Boxing the IOC last week officially added boxing to the LA2028 sports programme Mountain Bike . remains at the Sunshine Coast Mountain Bike Centre at Conservation Parklands Rockhampton Rowing/Canoe Sprint will be moved from Wyralong to Fitzroy River in Rockhampton Rockhampton Athletes Village . a new Athletes Village will be built at the Rockhampton Rail Yards precinct for Rowing/Canoe Sprint athletes Sailing Sailing will be moved from Manly Boat Harbour to North Queensland and shared between Townsville and the Whitsundays Shooting . to remain at Brisbane International Shooting Centre Suncorp Stadium . Football and Rugby Sevens to remain at Suncorp Stadium Sunshine Coast Athletes Village . to remain in Maroochydore Sunshine Coast Heavy Rail and BRT . heavy rail Beerwah to Birtinya then Brisbane Metro style BRT (Bus Rapid Transit) into Maroochydore CBD. Sunshine Coast Horizon Arena . a new ‘Horizon’new entertainment arena to be built in Maroochydore Sunshine Coast Indoor Sports Centre . this venue will not proceed it was to host basketball preliminaries . Sunshine Coast Stadium . Football will remain at this upgraded venue. Sydney Football to remain at Allianz Stadium. Tennis will be played at Queensland Tennis Centre which will undergo a $113 m upgrade to bring it to Games standard includes a new 3,000 seat arena and 12 new match courts Triathlon, Marathon Swimming . remains at Broadwater Parklands, Gold Coast Townsville . Football to remain at North Queensland Stadium Sailing is a new sports which has been moved to North Queensland and will be shared between Townsville and the Whitsundays “selling a dream”: will be great vistas to promote this region to the world Indigenous Tourism experiences will feature Volleyball, Paralympic Wheelchair Rugby . remains at Coomera Indoor Sports Centre, Gold Coast Weightlifting and Indoor Volleyball . Weightlifting remains at Gold Convention and Exhibition Centre Quote
Sir Rols Posted March 25 Report Posted March 25 10 hours ago, Rob2012 said: I'm still loathe to call people defending limited urban green space NIMBYs. I can't remember what the issues with indigenous rights are here, but I don't want to be dismissive of those either. I was actually trying to separate the NIMBYs from the green space advocates. My natural sympathies would lean towards green space preservation. But the stadium is needed and it appears there weren’t many other viable options. I’ll delay judgement unbuilt we see how that all plays out. As for he indigenous aspect, I was aware it was a significant site, known to them as Barrambin, but apparently it’s also a location for a number of massacre incidents. The Guardian’s starting to focus on the indigenous aspect: Queensland plans to build 2032 Olympics stadium on significant Indigenous site 10 hours ago, Rob2012 said: Truth is, there's a big democratic deficit here. "No new stadiums" was what was said pre-election. These people have every right to kick up a fuss, and these tensions will need to be resolved somehow. The only "rod" is the one Brisbane politicians keep making for their own backs. The broken promise aspect seems to be the angle a lot of the headlines and comments the media’s focussing this morning. It was heavily drowned out though by Federal Budget coverage - it was brought down yesterday ahead of an election expected to be called within weeks. 1 Quote
Gonzo Posted March 26 Report Posted March 26 Quote Queensland has announced a 'regional' games. For those of you in Europe or the USA, this does not mean a leisurely 1-2 hour trip between cities, like heading up to Manchester from London for a football match and being back in your bed the same night, rather the distance between Brisbane and Cairns (a 'regional' city set to host some basketball and soccer matches) is the equivalent of London to Rome or New York City to Miami. Keep that in mind when you are planning your 'regional' "day" trips. 1 Quote
Brisbane Boy Posted March 26 Report Posted March 26 Finally, some sense prevailed. Brisbane Arena $2.5 billion finally off the Olympic budget books. That allows the Stadium to be built along with a new pool venue plus a lot of other money into the other 35 venues. Assuming the federal government agree to changing the funding agreement. The agreement has been changed a few times already. Spending $2.5 billion on Brisbane Arena was the funding problem right from the word go. No reason the commonwealth should object now that a firm decision has been made. Election coming up, better to say we are going 50-50 with the state on building the Olympics up to the agreement amount. Let's move positively forward. Brisbane Arena will go to above the Cross River Rail site (old GoPrint site). It will be much cheaper to build on that site. Private enterprise involved with the government providing the land that will have Rail and bus on site. A gold location for the future that has hospitality spots all over the place too. Also, won't have to abide by IOC oversite. It should be finished by Olympic time. If so, a sport will be thrown there as a late sport venue change. Most likely basketball in my opinion. Now they start the long process of a Victoria Park stadium. Lots could happen and time is defiantly running out. I am not convinced the site (on the golf driving range and also looks like it has all those businesses being demolished) shown on the render is the end position of the stadium. The soil and other tests most likely determine the final location. It will be a long time before we see some actual plans on what the stadium will look like. 3 Quote
Rob2012 Posted March 26 Report Posted March 26 (edited) 14 hours ago, Sir Rols said: I was actually trying to separate the NIMBYs from the green space advocates. But in a case like this, it doesn't seem like there's much difference. If you live nearby and your only local green space is this urban park, having a whole chunk of it disappear is an issue. Does that make you a NIMBY or a green space advocate? This does look like the best current solution for the Olympics and the city given the timeline and financial constraints, but I've got a decent amount of sympathy for the NO camp on this one (I didn't like the mockery earlier in thread from AustralianFan for example). Nobody in politics who pushed the "no new stadiums" line, or indeed on the organising committee, can complain if there are protests and this stadium development doesn't go smoothly from this point. It's a situation they fermented. Edited March 26 by Rob2012 Quote
Brekkie Boy Posted March 31 Report Posted March 31 Glad there is finally a plan to make the games look respectable but really highlights why a full bidding process needs to be restored to sort out most issues prior to selection. Brisbane would never have been elected with the mess that was their previous plan. 1 Quote
Victorian Posted March 31 Report Posted March 31 2 hours ago, Brekkie Boy said: Glad there is finally a plan to make the games look respectable but really highlights why a full bidding process needs to be restored to sort out most issues prior to selection. Brisbane would never have been elected with the mess that was their previous plan. What I find frustrating is people want to harp on about Brisbane 2032 still confirming venues however LA are still changing venues and Paris were changing their venue plan too after winning the bid. It happens! Quote
Rob2012 Posted March 31 Report Posted March 31 There is a bit of a difference between switching around relatively minor venues and what's happened with Brisbane up to this point. 1 Quote
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