kevzz Posted August 28 Report Share Posted August 28 Maybe French culture is really about contemporary dance and techno music. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bear Posted August 28 Report Share Posted August 28 is that Freddy Fazbear in the background? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olympian2004 Posted August 28 Report Share Posted August 28 1 minute ago, Ikarus360 said: Me remembering I was one of the people who criticized Rio ceremonies back then, after seeing the letdowns we've had since 2020+1 It's good that you changed your mind. For me, Rio's ceremonies (especially the Olympic opening) were one of the best sets of ceremonies I have ever seen. The fact that they cost comparably little money makes it even better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nacholympic Posted August 28 Report Share Posted August 28 Rio 2016 I liked even more than the Olympic ceremony since the first time... It won't top the rhythm of the previous ones... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sebastien1214 Posted August 28 Report Share Posted August 28 1 minute ago, kevzz said: I feel the whole perception of Paralympic and disability has improved a lot more since London 2012, that we don't really need to rehash all these sob stories again. It should really be a more forward looking view of Paralympics rather than this dated propaganda that serves no one. I also have slight issue with the opening sketch where that disabled guy was in therapy, as if to portray if you are disabled you will be depressed. Probably only in England, precisely because you hosted the Games that year. Here in France, 2012 didn't change anything at all, the Paras weren't even broadcast. And I imagine that in other countries around the world, the London Paras in 2012 had no impact. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olympian2004 Posted August 28 Report Share Posted August 28 3 minutes ago, Ikarus360 said: Me remembering I was one of the people who criticized Rio ceremonies back then, after seeing the letdowns we've had since 2020+1 It's good that you changed your mind. For me, Rio's ceremonies (especially the Olympic opening) were one of the best sets of ceremonies I have ever seen. The fact that they cost comparably little money makes it even better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rio2016man Posted August 28 Report Share Posted August 28 Loving these dancers in white 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotguy II Posted August 28 Report Share Posted August 28 Have had this on in the background whilst I have been doing some other stuff. Sorry but it is utter trash yet again 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMarkSnow2012 Posted August 28 Report Share Posted August 28 I was just settling into that gentle groove, then COMMERCIAL TIME Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoshi Posted August 28 Report Share Posted August 28 I don't mind the messaging, the Paralympics will always have that political (not sure that's the right word but it's useful shorthand) angle - as they should. I guess you're right that the most effective way to convey them is in words from the people themselves. And I think @kevzz is right too, it is a competitive event, serious sport & that's how it's being presented now compared to even 2012, & that's as it should be (And Channel 4 just got bored & randomly cut to a break) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olympian2004 Posted August 28 Report Share Posted August 28 1 minute ago, sebastien1214 said: Probably only in England, precisely because you hosted the Games that year. Here in France, 2012 didn't change anything at all, the Paras weren't even broadcast. And I imagine that in other countries around the world, the London Paras in 2012 had no impact. In Germany, the London 2012 Paralympics seem to have changed perceptions indeed. Since then, there's a stronger perception of the Paralympic athletes' feats instead of their disabilities. And the Paralympics also get way more coverage on TV. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikarus360 Posted August 28 Report Share Posted August 28 2 minutes ago, Olympian2004 said: It's good that you changed your mind. For me, Rio's ceremonies (especially the Olympic opening) were one of the best sets of ceremonies I have ever seen. The fact that they cost comparably little money makes it even better. They did so much with a small budget. I guess I was just dissapointed because there was a promise of a bigger scale show which had to be toned down because of the economic crisis Brazil was going through (i recall Ric Birch abandoned the production in midway due to disagreements even). A combination of stuff and the fact i compared them to Rio and even Sochi's ceremonies which caused my initial reaction to be somewhat pessimistic. However, rewatching it again makes me appreciate it so much now, how joyful and colorful it was. You can tell it was before things got more gloomy after the 2016 election and the Pandemic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevzz Posted August 28 Report Share Posted August 28 It's definitely a much better produced ceremony so far compared to OOC, with good camerawork and the usual production you expect for a big event like this. However I still find the overall mood of the ceremony a little off. Too sombre and overly one-note. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMarkSnow2012 Posted August 28 Report Share Posted August 28 4 minutes ago, sebastien1214 said: Probably only in England, precisely because you hosted the Games that year. Here in France, 2012 didn't change anything at all, the Paras weren't even broadcast. And I imagine that in other countries around the world, the London Paras in 2012 had no impact. https://www.paralympic.org/news/rio-2016-paralympics-smash-all-tv-viewing-records Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikarus360 Posted August 28 Report Share Posted August 28 2 minutes ago, Scotguy II said: Have had this on in the background whilst I have been doing some other stuff. Sorry but it is utter trash yet again I ran out of likes today, but I agree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olympian2004 Posted August 28 Report Share Posted August 28 Yes, I find the music now particularly tiring and somber. Why does Jolly always get his pacing wrong? He needs to entertain people and not bore them - and that is surprising from a guy who says of himself that he gets bored easily. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nacholympic Posted August 28 Report Share Posted August 28 Again the same... Long segments...too long!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevzz Posted August 28 Report Share Posted August 28 Gosh even after the commercial, we are still on the Sportography dance! Again, pacing if so off and draggy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMarkSnow2012 Posted August 28 Report Share Posted August 28 Just now, kevzz said: Gosh even after the commercial, we are still on the Sportography dance! Again, pacing if so off and draggy! Exactly what I was thinking! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob2012 Posted August 28 Report Share Posted August 28 3 minutes ago, Olympian2004 said: Those green projections on the obelisque and the stage also remind me of Rio 2016... But that's about it, Rio's ceremonies exuded so much warmth and enthusiasm, while Paris' ceremonies come across so cold and aloof quite often. I feel like if we had a properly celebratory Olympic closing ceremony we'd be more ready for this. It is serious and monochromatic, but it's also much more cohesive than the Olympic opening, and I don't see anything wrong with a more serious tone for opening ceremonies anyway. There is a real lack of wow moments so far though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nacholympic Posted August 28 Report Share Posted August 28 I can understand they want to print the French style but it's too much!!!! I Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olympian2004 Posted August 28 Report Share Posted August 28 There is simply no excitement, nothing. Just dancing and repetitive and somber music. Come on! Thomas, Paris offers you such a wonderful stage and you are underselling it so badly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sebastien1214 Posted August 28 Report Share Posted August 28 1 minute ago, Olympian2004 said: Yes, I find the music now particularly tiring and somber. Why does Jolly always get his pacing wrong? He needs to entertain people and not bore them - and that is surprising from a guy who says of himself that he gets bored easily. Well, it's something very French, so maybe not because it's dark (although... we like to make political shows and therefore necessarily dark), but in any case because we are used to producing very conceptual stuff in art, which takes the time to develop their thing. So yes, those who absolutely need to have three explosions per second, things coming out of the ground every minute, a rhythm as lively as a TikTok video or a Marvel movie will be disappointed... but that's not French style. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rio2016man Posted August 28 Report Share Posted August 28 So the Luxor Obelisk at the centre of the Place de la Concorde is actually one of two and was taken from Egypt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevzz Posted August 28 Report Share Posted August 28 And what is it with the giant white flags? I noticed they also have smaller light grey flags that look almost white in the opening dance segments. Am I the only one thinking about disabled performers waving white flags is not a good look? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.