Los Angeles 2028 Cauldron

[AustralianFan]

Four years to go before the City of Angeles hosts their third Olympic Games in 2028.

What an amazing Games we have to look forward to.

The Dual-Stadium approach has already been announced for the LA2028 Opening Ceremony involving initial celebrations starting at Los Angeles Memorial Coliseum (and where the active 1932 and 1984 Cauldron is) before moving over to the main OC venue being Sofi Stafium where the main part of the Ceremony and protocols will take place.

WHICH CAULDRON AND WHERE ?

Will the Cauldron at the LA Memorial Coliseum be user or featured in the 2028 Opening Ceremony?

Will there be a new Cauldron inside or outside SoFi Stadium to light there given the protocols are all happening at Sofi Stadium?

Will the Cauldron even be an actual flame given what we have seen at Paris 2024?

Other Factors:

>> ATHLETICS STARTS IN FIRST WEEK AT LA2028 AT LA MEMORIAL COLISEUM

>> SWIMMING STARTS IN SECOND WEEK AT SOFI STADIUM

>> CLOSING CEREMONY AT LA MEMORIAL COLISEUM 

Given recent announcements that Athletics will be held in the first week at LA Memorial Coliseum and Swimming to be begin in the second week at SoFi Stadium (once the OC overlay has been removed from over two temporary swimming and warmup  pools pre-installed underneath):

1.  Will theCauldron at LA Memorial Coliseum be lit on the night of the Opening Ceremony at SoFi Stadium?

2. Will there be a new Cauldron either inside or outside at SoFi Stafium?

Edited July 29, 2024 by Sir Rols

[BigVic]

Of course the 1932 and 1984 cauldron will be the one that is lit up for the entire duration of the Games which is an iconic symbol of LA 

[Rob2012]

Is this even a discussion? They'll use the cauldron above the peristyle. I'm 99% sure of it.

The only question for me is if they have a mini-cauldron at SoFi as well. Having a thread four years out to essentially ponder this minor question is niche even for GamesBids!

[AustralianFan]

1 hour ago, BigVic said:

Of course the 1932 and 1984 cauldron will be the one that is lit up for the entire duration of the Games which is an iconic symbol of LA 

 

1 hour ago, Rob2012 said:

They'll use the cauldron above the peristyle. I'm 99% sure of it.

The only question for me is if they have a mini-cauldron at SoFi as well.

Agreed they’ll have the iconic Cauldron at LA Memorial Stadium lit 🔥 at some point for sure, but when?
Will it be on the Opening Ceremony night as the torch bearers run from LA Menorial Coluseum over to SoFi Stadium in Inglewood?

Yes there is the question of if there will be another Cauldron at SoFi Stadium.

If there is, will both be lit by torchbearers at both stadia ?

(discussion around this at LA 2028 has sprung up in two Paris 2024 threads today)

 

[Bear]

LA Memorial cauldron will be used, and there will be an additional cauldron at SoFi for the opening ceremony, which I for one support because i don't want to be robbed of the usual "what will the cauldron look like" talk

[Olympics2028]

There are mainly 3 cauldrons that I consider as the most "Olympics." The one from 1936 still in Berlin's Olympic stadium (and the first one actually lit by a runner) and the one from 1964, which was regrettably forced out when Tokyo tore down its original Olympic stadium.

 

 

^ Since the one from 1964 Tokyo no longer exists in a stadium, it's the one that I believe is still in Berlin and LA that remain.

[AustralianFan]

From Paris 2024 Cauldron thread:

On 5/26/2023 at 11:48 AM, fusilli said:

In Paris kinda expect something round shape, light and suspended

 

3 hours ago, fusilli said:

Contact me privately if you want me to guess the next ones..

@fusilli you nailed it with your 2023 prediction about the Paris Cauldron.

We should call you the “Cauldron Whisperer”

I’m going to press that button and love to hear your thoughts on the LA2028 Cauldron, the Opening Ceremony of which will start at LA Memorial Coliseum and end at Sofi Stadium with all the protocols.

[DamC]

They should light up the traditional Coliseum cauldron at the start of the ceremony and then light a new modern one at SoFi at the end. Then they should move the SoFi cauldron somewhere in the city where everyone can see it (a la Rio 2016) and have both cauldrons stay lit up during the entirety of the games.

[fusilli]

4 hours ago, AustralianFan said:

From Paris 2024 Cauldron thread:

 

@fusilli you nailed it with your 2023 prediction about the Paris Cauldron.

We should call you the “Cauldron Whisperer”

I’m going to press that button and love to hear your thoughts on the LA2028 Cauldron, the Opening Ceremony of which will start at LA Memorial Coliseum and end at Sofi Stadium with all the protocols.

Thank you, Australian. Have to say, though, that many clues were kinda there. Plus, knowing the host country's culture helps too. And no offence but some times in this forum seems that people tend to go too much with technicalities and enjoy less about the flow of things.

About LA'28, way too early. Clues are still vague to be on the radar. But I can start catching Milan's..

[AustralianFan]

1 hour ago, DamC said:

They should light up the traditional Coliseum cauldron at the start of the ceremony and then light a new modern one at SoFi at the end. Then they should move the SoFi cauldron somewhere in the city where everyone can see it (a la Rio 2016) and have both cauldrons stay lit up during the entirety of the games.

Sounds like a great idea.  Traditional and new 

[AustralianFan]

@GBModerator Hi, can I kindly ask that this thread be renamed “Los Angeles 2028 Cauldron” please?

Thanks so much, I kind of got the title the wrong way around when initiating and naming this thread 😀

[ejaycat]

8 hours ago, DamC said:

They should light up the traditional Coliseum cauldron at the start of the ceremony and then light a new modern one at SoFi at the end. Then they should move the SoFi cauldron somewhere in the city where everyone can see it (a la Rio 2016) and have both cauldrons stay lit up during the entirety of the games.

I was thinking of something like this too; during the torch relay, light the Coliseum cauldron and then continue on with the torch relay somehow.  But then it begs the question:  How will the Coliseum cauldron be lit?  Like it was in 1984?  Something completely different?

I was thinking the cauldron design at SoFi could be something that acknowledges that Los Angeles is a 3-time host, maybe a three-bowl design, or something else.  It wouldn't be unprecedented, there were twin cauldrons at the Innsbruck '76 Winter Games to acknowledge that it was hosting for a 2nd time.  

Or maybe have three cauldrons, one at the Coliseum, one at SoFi, and maybe one (permanent or temporary) in Grand Park in front of LA City Hall, which I believe is where the marathon, race walk, and road cycling will start... At least that was the original plan; that of course might change when all venues are finally finalized.  

[baron-pierreIV]

54 minutes ago, ejaycat said:

I was thinking of something like this too; during the torch relay, light the Coliseum cauldron and then continue on with the torch relay somehow.  But then it begs the question:  How will the Coliseum cauldron be lit?  Like it was in 1984?  Something completely different?

I was thinking the cauldron design at SoFi could be something that acknowledges that Los Angeles is a 3-time host, maybe a three-bowl design, or something else.  It wouldn't be unprecedented, there were twin cauldrons at the Innsbruck '76 Winter Games to acknowledge that it was hosting for a 2nd time.  

Or maybe have three cauldrons, one at the Coliseum, one at SoFi, and maybe one (permanent or temporary) in Grand Park in front of LA City Hall, which I believe is where the marathon, race walk, and road cycling will start... At least that was the original plan; that of course might change when all venues are finally finalized.  

I think there will be a small, fake one at SoFi -- and with "clean fuels."  And then the existing one at Memorial -- will just be lit during the Ceremonies -- but for environmental concerns, it will not be lit otherwise.  And they will publicize their legitimate reasons and just the public accept that.  

[Olympics2028]

2 hours ago, baron-pierreIV said:

I think there will be a small, fake one at SoFi -- and with "clean fuels."  And then the existing one at Memorial -- will just be lit during the Ceremonies -- but for environmental concerns, it will not be lit otherwise.  And they will publicize their legitimate reasons and just the public accept that.  

😅

 

3 hours ago, ejaycat said:

 It wouldn't be unprecedented, there were twin cauldrons at the Innsbruck '76 Winter Games to acknowledge that it was hosting for a 2nd time.  

 

 

Meanwhile, a winter host (of just one Olympics) saluting a summer host. Their cauldron implies they've hosted 5 times?:

 

^ Wasn't a fan of Vancouver's 5-headed thingamajig. But it's at least real flames, so I'll take it.

[Olympics2028]

This is admittedly "lit," but as in floodlight, not as in fire or flame. My opinion is "why bother?" So if LA goes down this same path, why bother? The way things are going LA 2028 should just do an AI version of the games, whether everything and everyone is simulated. That will easily have a way smaller carbon footprint.

 

[JesseSaenz]

On 7/29/2024 at 10:59 AM, baron-pierreIV said:

I think there will be a small, fake one at SoFi -- and with "clean fuels."  And then the existing one at Memorial -- will just be lit during the Ceremonies -- but for environmental concerns, it will not be lit otherwise.  And they will publicize their legitimate reasons and just the public accept that.  

That would be a tough sell since they already regularly light it for USC Games and other notable events. 

 

If there's a 2nd one at SoFi I just hope it's not boring. 

Or maybe it will be something completely new and original and instantly iconic. 

 

Who knows!?

[baron-pierreIV]

3 hours ago, JesseSaenz said:

That would be a tough sell since they already regularly light it for USC Games and other notable events. 

THey indeed light it for a minute or 5 at some events.  But it doesn't last the whole night.  It costs $$ and in a state where wildfires are burning very destructively, do you want that as a reminder of what not to have? 

[Anthony]

Is the flame still lit at the Coliseum from last friday?

[JesseSaenz]

On 8/1/2024 at 4:07 AM, baron-pierreIV said:

THey indeed light it for a minute or 5 at some events.  But it doesn't last the whole night.  It costs $$ and in a state where wildfires are burning very destructively, do you want that as a reminder of what not to have? 

Both SoFi and Coliseum are nowhere near hills or brush that may start a wildfire. Yes California has them, but suggesting that they could start smack in the middle of an urban area is kind of silly, no?

[baron-pierreIV]

3 hours ago, JesseSaenz said:

Both SoFi and Coliseum are nowhere near hills or brush that may start a wildfire. Yes California has them, but suggesting that they could start smack in the middle of an urban area is kind of silly, no?

It doesn't have to be.  It's the whole idea of still doing in a blazing summer is really IMHO kinda stupid.  

[Olympics2028]

On 8/1/2024 at 3:07 AM, baron-pierreIV said:

It costs $$ and in a state where wildfires are burning very destructively, do you want that as a reminder of what not to have? 

I originally thought your posts about the "cauldron" for 2024 and the one for 2028 were just sarcasm or tongue-in-cheek.

Concerns about an Olympic cauldron being some type of eco disaster remind me of people back in 2020-2021 who'd drive around all alone in their cars while wearing a face mask.

However, being worried about wildfires are not without merit. And for Paris 2024, that city's Notre Dame Cathedral did catch on fire in 2019.

 

[Red Centaur]

They should give every athlete a torch each once they have gathered on the field, this would make the stadium one giant cauldron.