antiperspirant Posted August 2, 2024 Report Posted August 2, 2024 also it's lowk messed up that the cauldron was all the way at the Louvre so the athletes couldn't see it light with their own eyes, but I get it. It makes sense to have it at a museum because they have infrastructure there to support a giant artwork like this already and it can become like a permanent exhibition afterwards (maybe that's why they went for a non fire-based flame if they plan to keep it permanently on display) Quote
antiperspirant Posted August 2, 2024 Report Posted August 2, 2024 On 7/26/2024 at 3:40 PM, Sir Rols said: The music selection was top notch! Loved just about every piece chosen, from the classics to the modern. Superb. A lot of EDM, which I did not expect, but looking through my Spotify lists, I realize a lot of EDM songs I like came from French artists so it makes sense!! Quote
sebastien1214 Posted August 2, 2024 Author Report Posted August 2, 2024 1 hour ago, antiperspirant said: A lot of EDM, which I did not expect, but looking through my Spotify lists, I realize a lot of EDM songs I like came from French artists so it makes sense!! Victor le Masne (the musical director of the ceremonies) himself comes from the world of French EDM. We can also feel the inspiration in the original pieces he produced for the ceremony. I'm looking forward to him releasing an album with all the music he produced for these Olympics. I may be biased by my nationality, but musically speaking this ceremony is clearly the best in history. 1 Quote
guilherme b Posted August 2, 2024 Report Posted August 2, 2024 Musically, the ceremony was very good. I found the focus on EDM to be excessive, but that's just my personal opinion. It's a pity Daft Punk was absent. However, musically, I think the best standard I hold is the London closing ceremony. In this aspect, I believe there is a lot to work on in the closing ceremony for us to make this kind of comparison. Quote
BigVic Posted August 2, 2024 Report Posted August 2, 2024 https://aramajapan.com/news/tokyo-2020-opening-ceremony-original-plan-leaks-in-full/114631/ The orignally planned Tokyo 2020 Opening Ceremony which Thomas Jolly got some ideas from Quote
sebastien1214 Posted August 2, 2024 Author Report Posted August 2, 2024 3 minutes ago, BigVic said: https://aramajapan.com/news/tokyo-2020-opening-ceremony-original-plan-leaks-in-full/114631/ The orignally planned Tokyo 2020 Opening Ceremony which Thomas Jolly got some ideas from This has absolutely nothing to do with what Thomas Jolly did... (but it's a shame that Tokyo didn't put this ceremony in 2021) Quote
IdiOtiC Posted August 2, 2024 Report Posted August 2, 2024 Impossible Scale made so many aspects of the ceremony fall flat. I don't think it would be impossible to devise some supersize props or elements that would have had more impact. It may sound silly but what about some playful balloons characters of references that could promenade the Tracadero or part of the river, or even many that start somewhere in the parade and go floating high above the proceedings. I guess the terrible weather would have played havoc on that but there had to be something more impactful to offset the scale problems and have some visible ceremony elements. Celine was great, but again, the scale was disappointing looking. HATED the dated looking lazer show, it was really a shame and missed opportunity to not find better, newer ways to use the tower. And I 100% would have has REAL fireworks in multiple parts of the show. Quote
IdiOtiC Posted August 2, 2024 Report Posted August 2, 2024 Also WHY are there so many Americans in the boat to the cauldron? Don't get it. lastly, electric cauldron is just wrong in my view Quote
Ikarus360 Posted August 2, 2024 Report Posted August 2, 2024 1 hour ago, IdiOtiC said: HATED the dated looking lazer show, it was really a shame and missed opportunity to not find better, newer ways to use the tower. And I 100% would have has REAL fireworks in multiple parts of the show. Using fireworks seem to be taboo now because of all the ecologism yadda yadda like with the Cauldron. And then you have a mass fireworks show in Paris weeks ago during Bastille Day. Talk about hypocrisy and double standards. Anyway.... I hope we get our hands in the soundtrack eventually, specially Thomas Jolly variations of the theme song. Someone in Youtube posted the beautiful variation used during the horse segment which was probably one of my favorite tracks of the night. Quote
Ikarus360 Posted August 2, 2024 Report Posted August 2, 2024 2 hours ago, sebastien1214 said: This has absolutely nothing to do with what Thomas Jolly did... (but it's a shame that Tokyo didn't put this ceremony in 2021) With how Japan and most of the world was economic wise, plus how the view of the japanese populace was toward the games and how inappropiate it was to host this event through such a critical moment, I can't say i blame them for downscaling it massively. I only blame them for the mistreatment they gave to Mikiko which was unrelated to the pandemic. We all had huge hopes for that ceremony, but what's done its done. Its useless crying for spilled milk. Quote
Olympics2028 Posted August 2, 2024 Report Posted August 2, 2024 19 hours ago, Bear said: not only are you citing an unreliable source, you're doing so in an incredibly bigoted, and quite frankly, incredibly sexist way. Read the IOC statement that explains why IBA's reasonings cannot be trusted: https://olympics.com/ioc/news/joint-paris-2024-boxing-unit-ioc-statement Fair enough. But your source, wired.com, is known for being as political as much of the rest of the media are. There are dueling narratives from both leftwingers and rightwingers. The main question, therefore, is who or what will twist facts, ethics, honesty and reality the most in order to suit either a liberal agenda or a conservative agenda. Just how clean the Seine is or isn't, and whether the 2024 games are eco-friendly or not, are very much affected by the spin of either leftism or rightism. https://metro.co.uk/2024/08/01/olympics-star-makes-disgusting-revelation-swimming-river-seine-21338462/ Quote An athlete who competed in the Paris Olympics triathlon says she ‘felt and saw things I don’t want to think about’ while swimming in the River Seine. The postponed triathlon took place on Wednesday after early morning tests showed the water quality in the Seine was finally at an acceptable level for the swim leg to go ahead. But several competitors were still less than impressed by the pollution in the Seine, which Paris organisers said had worsened after heavy rainfall over the weekend. Belgium’s Jolien Vermeylen, who finished 24th in the women’s event, said the water ‘didn’t taste like Coke or Sprite’ and admitted she was aware of the risk of getting sick. ‘I drank a lot of water, so we’ll know tomorrow if I’m sick or not,’ she told TV channel VTM. ‘It doesn’t taste like Coca-Cola or Sprite, of course. ‘While swimming under the bridge, I felt and saw things that we shouldn’t think about too much. ‘The Seine has been dirty for a hundred years, so they can’t say that the safety of the athletes is a priority. That’s bulls***!’ Vermeylen took precautions to avoid getting sick but admits she took on quite a bit of water during the swim leg. The 30-year-old added: ‘If the race hadn’t taken place, it would have been a disgrace for the organisation, for Paris, for France. ‘It was now or never, and they couldn’t cancel the race completely either. Now they just have to hope that there won’t be too many sick athletes. ‘I took pro-biotics, I drank my Yakult, I couldn’t do more. I had the idea of not drinking water, but yes, it failed.’ 2 Quote
Sir Rols Posted August 3, 2024 Report Posted August 3, 2024 (edited) 16 hours ago, Red Centaur said: Paris OC had spectacular moments: the baby reveal moment, those fireworks, the Marie Antoinette sequence as well, though it would have been better without the band… I actually really liked the lead up to the lighting of the cauldron, Especially the way, they passed the torch between the athletes, however, the design of that final cauldron is almost perfect… I wish it was a real flame in there. And then of course the Céline Dion moment which was breathtaking. I really liked the metallic Joan of Arc, though I wish they had brought that metalic horse right up to the Olympic flag post. Lots of grandeur and great ingredients. I think with some clever editing we could create an opening ceremony out of existing footage that would be brilliant. i concur. There’s actually a good ceremony in there with some judicious editing. If the weather gods had actually cooperated it could have even been great. For my part I loved Gojira at the beheading 16 hours ago, Rob2012 said: 99.9% of people will tune in once, when it's live. So the creative director made a ceremony that a handful of people online who watch these things back think gets better on repeat viewings? Super...I guess. These things are one-time shows for nearly everyone who sees them. If it doesn't hit the mark on that Friday evening, as an "opening ceremony" before all the sport, that's the end of it. You don't get them back. We can certainly debate whether it did or didn't hit the mark live, but the idea that creating a "grower not a shower" is somehow praiseworthy for someone tasked with this endeavour needs to go. If that is what he did, then it's a mark of failure. And I concur with this too, Rob. At a live ceremony you only get one chance, and they certainly didn’t stick the landing. But on re-watching (that’s rare, even for me) the first half, I was truly astounded how much better it was than I remembered on the night (well, i was still night in Australia, even if dawn broke while the sun set in Paris). I blame Live Chat - hard to appreciate the flow and nuances when you’ve got half your attention on the latest keyboard quips. Edited August 3, 2024 by Sir Rols Quote
PikyoK Posted August 3, 2024 Report Posted August 3, 2024 19 hours ago, Michelle said: Everything you mention is about Paris, not France. A large portion of France lies beyond Paris. There are rich cultures in Brittany, Alsace, the South of France, Corsica, and other regions. All of this was deliberately ignored, focusing solely on Paris—its history, quirks, and obsessions. The opening ceremony was very Parisian as if it was indicative of all of France. Here's an interesting read from SBS' Cultural Atlas on France: "The second form of stratification is between the urban and rural population. France has had a significant rural population throughout history and the country continues to have a distinction between provincial areas and large cities like Paris. Paris has long been considered the capital and cultural centre of France. Most jobs requiring a high level of education are found in the capital, and most highways throughout the country lead to Paris. The people and culture associated with Paris refer to themselves as ‘Parisien’. Those from Paris may refer to the people and culture from the provinces as ‘Provinciaux’ (‘Provincial’). However, those from the provinces of France may find this term derogatory as well as failing to recognise the diversity of cultures and lifestyles in the provinces." "Outsiders often view French culture as synonymous with the culture found in Paris. However, the culture of provincial France differs in many ways. These cultures vary from province to province, depending on where the province is located geographically. For example, the northeast region of Grand Est shares its border with Germany and has notable German influences throughout." Hence the saying 'Paris is not France'. Quote
PikyoK Posted August 3, 2024 Report Posted August 3, 2024 13 hours ago, Ikarus360 said: I only blame them for the mistreatment they gave to Mikiko which was unrelated to the pandemic. True. Mikiko deserved better! 5 hours ago, Sir Rols said: (well, i was still night in Australia, even if dawn broke while the sun set in Paris) It's funny because it was raining in Paris and in Sydney too when the sun went up! I laughed when the rain here started at the end of the ceremony. 18 hours ago, sebastien1214 said: Victor le Masne (the musical director of the ceremonies) himself comes from the world of French EDM. We can also feel the inspiration in the original pieces he produced for the ceremony. I'm looking forward to him releasing an album with all the music he produced for these Olympics. I may be biased by my nationality, but musically speaking this ceremony is clearly the best in history. The music was top-notch. Can't complain! 17 hours ago, guilherme b said: Musically, the ceremony was very good. I found the focus on EDM to be excessive, but that's just my personal opinion. It's a pity Daft Punk was absent. However, musically, I think the best standard I hold is the London closing ceremony. In this aspect, I believe there is a lot to work on in the closing ceremony for us to make this kind of comparison. Hopefully Daft Punk and Deep Forest at the Closing. Quote
Olympics2028 Posted August 3, 2024 Report Posted August 3, 2024 8 hours ago, PikyoK said: Hence the saying 'Paris is not France'. Politics or ideology affect not just France's main city, it also affects so many aspects of the 2024 summer games. Those politics transcend any one thing, including that of the IOC, Tony Estanguet or 2028's Casey Wasserman. Politics affected the opening ceremony just as politics are affecting things like the type of food at the Olympic Village or the suitability of water in the Seine. 1 Quote
sebastien1214 Posted August 3, 2024 Author Report Posted August 3, 2024 4 hours ago, Olympics2028 said: Politics affected the opening ceremony Ah, glad to see you finally watched the ceremony! What did you think of the Daft Punk show with the lasers at the Eiffel Tower? Pas mal, non ? C'est français. (these 40 seconds: even better than Celine Dion in my humble opinion) Quote
FYI Posted August 3, 2024 Report Posted August 3, 2024 4 minutes ago, sebastien1214 said: (these 40 seconds: even better than Celine Dion in my humble opinion) Those are probably fightin’ words for all those Celine Dioner’s, but I agree with’ya! Quote
FYI Posted August 3, 2024 Report Posted August 3, 2024 OMG, I'm just watching it again, but when was that, Sebastian? Quote
FYI Posted August 3, 2024 Report Posted August 3, 2024 That wasn't during the Opening, was it (cause I see rain there)?! Cause I didn't see that at all!! Quote
sebastien1214 Posted August 3, 2024 Author Report Posted August 3, 2024 1 minute ago, FYI said: That wasn't during the Opening, was it (cause I see rain there)?! Cause I didn't see that at all!! Only those who actually watched the opening ceremony know whether or not it really happened like that or not. If this is a real excerpt from the ceremony or a montage. You will understand from the person I quoted that I just wanted to do a test to make sure if that was the case from him. Quote
FYI Posted August 3, 2024 Report Posted August 3, 2024 Oh my gosh, you teaser!! Cause that was incredible!! Quote
FYI Posted August 3, 2024 Report Posted August 3, 2024 I was about to be seriously ticked off, & go open my Peacock app. to search the Opening segment for it otherwise! lol 1 Quote
sebastien1214 Posted August 3, 2024 Author Report Posted August 3, 2024 2 minutes ago, FYI said: Oh my gosh, you teaser!! Cause that was incredible!! Yeah, if Daft Punk had come, there's no doubt they would have been in that place at the Eiffel Tower with the lasers. It would have been incredible. The Daft Punk - Celine Dion sequence, I don't know if we can do better. Unfortunately, they refused to participate.... as early as the end of 2022 (!!!) Thomas Jolly had contacted them, but they unfortunately declined. Too bad. All that's left is this 40-second video montage (the excerpts used for Daft Punk are from one of their concerts during Alive 2007) to console ourselves. Quote
FYI Posted August 3, 2024 Report Posted August 3, 2024 Wow, that's too bad. Why would anyone want to refuse such an honor like that (unless of course, it was some form of political decision on their part). Performing at the biggest sporting stage in the world, & in your home country at that, at the Olympics. Pity, cause yes, I also think that would've been great. Oh, & P.S. sorry that I ruined your test with what's-his-name there. lol Quote
sebastien1214 Posted August 3, 2024 Author Report Posted August 3, 2024 4 minutes ago, FYI said: Wow, that's too bad. Why would anyone want to refuse such an honor like that (unless of course, it was some form of political decision on their part). Performing at the biggest sporting stage in the world, & in your home country at that, at the Olympics. Pity, cause yes, I also think that would've been great. Oh, & P.S. sorry that I ruined your test with what's-his-name there. lol I don't think it's a political decision, but simply that their story ended in 2021 and that for them an end is a real end and that the past is past. This is also the explanation that Thomas Jolly gave to announce their refusal, it's respectable. In any case, it's not as if they were looking for glory and prestige. They still had more than 20 years of career while wearing helmets. The guys had the advantages of glory and the advantages of anonymity at the same time. (and in my opinion, if they had done the ceremony, behind they would have been entitled to years and years of articles like "Towards a return of Daft?" since we would have said to ourselves that if they made a comeback for a ceremony they can very well do it in a more sustainable way. I think that this perspective pissed them off too) Quote
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