Sir Rols Posted August 2, 2024 Report Posted August 2, 2024 (edited) 27 minutes ago, Olympics2028 said: Too many threads in this forum. Everything about 2024 should be under one heading, everything about 2028 should be under another. Everybody else seems to navigate the threads and forums with no problem. You seem to be the only one who aparently can’t navigate through a forum directory. It’s not going to be changed just because you’re organisationaly challenged, lazy or trying to be deliberately contrary Please do not keep pushing this thread off-topic for whatever motivation you have. Edited August 2, 2024 by Sir Rols Quote
Bear Posted August 2, 2024 Report Posted August 2, 2024 16 minutes ago, Olympics2028 said: You can cite sources you believe indicates that Khelif is a DNA female, not a DNA male. https://nypost.com/sports/who-is-imane-khelif-the-algerian-boxer-in-gender-eligibility-controversy/ not only are you citing an unreliable source, you're doing so in an incredibly bigoted, and quite frankly, incredibly sexist way. Read the IOC statement that explains why IBA's reasonings cannot be trusted: https://olympics.com/ioc/news/joint-paris-2024-boxing-unit-ioc-statement https://www.wired.com/story/imane-khelif-olympic-boxer-controversy/ Born in 1999 in Tiaret, Algeria, Khelif has been boxing since she was a child and has always competed in women's categories. In her career, she competed in the Women's World Boxing Championships in New Delhi in 2018 (finishing in 17th place), then competed in Russia the following year. She competed in the 2020 Tokyo Olympic Games, reaching all the way to the quarterfinals, and she finished second in the 2022 Women's World Championships in Istanbul. ... “These boxers are completely eligible. They are women on their passports, they are women who have competed in the Tokyo Olympics and have been competing for many years, I think we all have a responsibility to tone it down and not turn it into a witch hunt,” said IOC spokesperson Mark Adams, at a news conference on Tuesday. ... The fact is that Khelif is participating in the Games because she is allowed to by the rules, and has passed the IOC's standards. “The current aggression against these two athletes is based entirely on this arbitrary decision,” said the Boxing Unit and IOC in a statement Thursday, referring to the IBA ban. “[It] was taken without any proper procedure—especially considering that these athletes had been competing in top-level competition for many years. Such an approach is contrary to good governance.” ... Beyond everything, however, the fact remains that Imane Khelif has always defined herself as a woman and the IOC is allowing her participate in the Olympics as such. Even in the face of assaultive public opinion, there is nothing to add. Quote
krow Posted August 2, 2024 Report Posted August 2, 2024 33 minutes ago, Sir Rols said: Everybody else seems to navigate the threads and forums with no problem actually i do find the number of forums a bit bloated and confusing to navigate, especially as half of them are archived and feature a final post like, "really looking forward to the salt lake opening ceremonies in a few months. i'm writing this from an internet cafe on the 77th floor of the world trade center on a beautiful blue tuesday in september...." 1 Quote
Bear Posted August 2, 2024 Report Posted August 2, 2024 okay back to the thread's actual topic - my god how i adore the second half of the Liberté segment. admittedly I don't really like talking or even fully expressing my sexuality which is something i would like to change but cannot for a while due to certain reasons, but this segment just makes me feel so... i guess excited? or accepted? about my identity and who I am. seeing this unabashed display of love and acceptance is one of the nicest feelings ive had in a while. also the music used after the throuple leaves the library is so incredibly good 1 Quote
PikyoK Posted August 2, 2024 Report Posted August 2, 2024 On 8/1/2024 at 1:57 AM, krow said: you write like chatGPT. Thank you. I take that as a compliment. On 8/1/2024 at 10:29 AM, Red Centaur said: For me, Athens had a perfect opening ceremony. I agree. So out of this world. Quote
baron-pierreIV Posted August 2, 2024 Report Posted August 2, 2024 8 minutes ago, PikyoK said: So out of this world. Indeed. That's why I could not relate to it. Not within an earthly, relatable sphere. Quote
BigVic Posted August 2, 2024 Report Posted August 2, 2024 David Atkins from Sydney and Vancouver. We all know the endings Quote
Red Centaur Posted August 2, 2024 Report Posted August 2, 2024 Masculine Tom Cruise is going to parachute into the Closing Ceremony to save all Olympickind with his maleness and hetrosexual muscles. Quote
Red Centaur Posted August 2, 2024 Report Posted August 2, 2024 19 minutes ago, baron-pierreIV said: Indeed. That's why I could not relate to it. Not within an earthly, relatable sphere. Nor were you meant to. 1 Quote
hektor Posted August 2, 2024 Report Posted August 2, 2024 (edited) 9 hours ago, DamC said: I'm still surprised to see people refer to the ceremony as "not French-centric". Every segment featured heavily french references and influences: the opening segment played on French clichés and was a tribute to French music hall, then the second segment showcased French craftmanship in a very obvious Louis Vuitton product placement, followed by a musical performance featuring the republican guard in front the Académie française (can't get more French than that), a fashion show showcasing young up-and-coming Parisian designers. You also had a whole section about the French revolution, and various references to French literature. The only sections which were not "French" were the Eurodance party - a tribute to European unity, France being a founding nation of the European Union by the way - and the Imagine performance. Everything you mention is about Paris, not France. A large portion of France lies beyond Paris. There are rich cultures in Brittany, Alsace, the South of France, Corsica, and other regions. All of this was deliberately ignored, focusing solely on Paris—its history, quirks, and obsessions. Looking at previous ceremonies, I have the impression that no ceremony has ever been so skewed towards the host city at the expense of the host country. For instance, in Beijing, I remember a parade of children showcasing all the nationalities of China. I could cite other examples as well. Edited August 2, 2024 by hektor Quote
baron-pierreIV Posted August 2, 2024 Report Posted August 2, 2024 (edited) 55 minutes ago, Red Centaur said: Nor were you meant to. And you did? So superior. Who're you kidding? Turning in now. We can continue the fight tomorrow if you wish. I now you liked it -- for the most part I didn't but NO NEEd to get snotty. Edited August 2, 2024 by baron-pierreIV Quote
BigVic Posted August 2, 2024 Report Posted August 2, 2024 On 7/29/2024 at 6:33 PM, PikyoK said: Despite the controversy and division the opening ceremony caused, I highly suspect that Jolly got some inspiration from Mikiko Mizuno's proposed plan for Tokyo 2020(1) Opening Ceremony Mikiko's Tokyo 2020 - Lady Gaga performance with Mario - Connection between 1964 and 2020 as shown by the 1960s office and attire and the Naomi Wattanabe segment - Japanese anime and video game tribute: Sonic, Mario, Pikachu, Goku, Doraemon - Opening Sequence exploring different parts of Tokyo and their characteristics (subway, skyscrapers, shopping districts, parks etc.) - Japanese video game characters portraying different types of olympic sports Jolly's Paris 2024 - Lady Gaga cabaret performance - Connection with 1924 and 2024 as shown with Charles Costa as a torchbearer, Art Deco branding, Lady Gaga's outfit? - French Cinema tribute: The Little Prince, Lumiere Brothers and the Minions - All Artistic segments exploring landmarks of Paris that portray a part of French history and culture - French garden inspired barges with rococo style performers and acrobats portraying sports like BMX and breakdancing. That was the entire original concept of the Tokyo 2020 Opening Ceremony which was to be done inside a stadium instead of outdoors. Quote
LOUIS Posted August 2, 2024 Report Posted August 2, 2024 On 8/1/2024 at 3:29 AM, Red Centaur said: For me, Athens had a perfect opening ceremony. Athens is not the most spectacular ever (that definately goes to Beijing) and there may be some legitimate criticism of how the stadium setting was used for segments like "Clepsydra". The reason it keeps being brought up is general concept and aesthetics. Philsophical yet simple and emotional, minimalistic yet grandiose, archetypal yet in an avant-garde style. By far the most elegant and classy OC. In this regard, for some people, the contrast with Paris (twenty years later) may be quite depressing. But of course, de gustibus non disputandum. 1 Quote
LOUIS Posted August 2, 2024 Report Posted August 2, 2024 17 minutes ago, LOUIS said: archetypal *archetypical Quote
JMarkSnow2012 Posted August 2, 2024 Report Posted August 2, 2024 9 hours ago, yoshi said: Ah, the envelope - was that actually the first ever drawing of the rings? Significant moment if so, & basically missed by the BBC commentary. But like I say they had a hard job - & the media guide doesn't put much emphasis on that being what it is. The BBC had already covered the history of the rings while the flag was travelling along the Seine. The envelope just popped up unexpectedly for 10 seconds in the middle of the Eiffel Tower light-show: see my earlier comment about unpredictability! Quote
Red Centaur Posted August 2, 2024 Report Posted August 2, 2024 Paris OC had spectacular moments: the baby reveal moment, those fireworks, the Marie Antoinette sequence as well, though it would have been better without the band… I actually really liked the lead up to the lighting of the cauldron, Especially the way, they passed the torch between the athletes, however, the design of that final cauldron is almost perfect… I wish it was a real flame in there. And then of course the Céline Dion moment which was breathtaking. I really liked the metallic Joan of Arc, though I wish they had brought that metalic horse right up to the Olympic flag post. Lots of grandeur and great ingredients. I think with some clever editing we could create an opening ceremony out of existing footage that would be brilliant. 1 Quote
JMarkSnow2012 Posted August 2, 2024 Report Posted August 2, 2024 5 hours ago, guilherme b said: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13679885/olympics-paris-2024-opening-ceremony-video-deleted-account-backlash.html Guess what they removed it. Reading the actual words of that Daily Fail article, it's evident that they had no evidence of the existence of a full Olympic OC video on the Olympic website other than the announcements that no such video existed. The reality is almost certainly that, as usual, the IOC provided a livestream of the event for the few territories where no local broadcasters had paid for exclusive rights, but will not make the video available for general on-demand viewing until after those local rights expire. Quote
antiperspirant Posted August 2, 2024 Report Posted August 2, 2024 My favorite part of the ceremony was when the guy in the old timey outfit had the kids put on modern safety vests ahahaha. I don't think those were invented at the period the outfit was most commonly worn. big lesson of safety first yes yes YES Quote
antiperspirant Posted August 2, 2024 Report Posted August 2, 2024 Just now, antiperspirant said: My favorite part of the ceremony was when the guy in the old timey outfit had the kids put on modern safety vests ahahaha. I don't think those were invented at the period the outfit was most commonly worn. big lesson of safety first yes yes YES as they boarded the little boat Quote
Rob2012 Posted August 2, 2024 Report Posted August 2, 2024 15 hours ago, mr.bernham said: After sitting with the ceremony for a few days, I've really come around to it. In true French fashion, Paris gave us a grower and not a shower! 99.9% of people will tune in once, when it's live. So the creative director made a ceremony that a handful of people online who watch these things back think gets better on repeat viewings? Super...I guess. These things are one-time shows for nearly everyone who sees them. If it doesn't hit the mark on that Friday evening, as an "opening ceremony" before all the sport, that's the end of it. You don't get them back. We can certainly debate whether it did or didn't hit the mark live, but the idea that creating a "grower not a shower" is somehow praiseworthy for someone tasked with this endeavour needs to go. If that is what he did, then it's a mark of failure. Quote
sebastien1214 Posted August 2, 2024 Author Report Posted August 2, 2024 The Paris prosecutor's office opened an investigation on Wednesday into cyberbullying against the artistic director of the Olympic Games opening ceremony, Thomas Jolly, who filed a complaint, AFP learned from sources close to the case. 1 Quote
antiperspirant Posted August 2, 2024 Report Posted August 2, 2024 okay. I finally finished the opening ceremony. i had to spread it out over 3 days because this **** is so long but let me tell you this was no ****. all i can say is that it's MAGICAL like wow, even the blurry wet camera lenses turning the lights of the city into a playful dance and not gonna lie i felt a little something during Imagine, i am honestly liking each ceremony doing it's own spin with it, as long as they try to make it unique (which i think paris did) and fit into the overall energy of the show, i support! i also felt a little eye shake when the Olympic flame was handed to the kids I AM SUCH A MUSH FOR THIS KIND OF STUFF WTF THIS IS REALLY IS A GAMES ABOUT CELEBRATING THE YOUTH (with the inclusion of skateboarding and breaking and such, although some people say it's an outdated idea of youth activities, i personally attest as someone who has not mentally moved past youth that these sports get me excited idc what the Vox podcast says) AND TRUSTING THEM WITH THE FUTURE LIKE KIDS ARE HERE TO SAVE THE DAY. Also, having the literal city be the stage for the ceremony just. makes. sense! what better way to root into the city that's hosting my getting a tour of the city? a natural part of this is that random people who live near by !! contribute !! to the ceremony without the organizers having to them to, like how people hung different county flags from their balcony as they watched. how grassroots is that! for a country known for its civic activism, this is just so perfect. I am not sure how I'd feel if every subsequent opening ceremony does a linear parade through their city. I feel like Paris is one pace I know for sure works because it is so photogenic, but as for other cities I am unsure (LA's Wilshire Blvd? Gets pretty generic looking at a certain point). Maybe like having a block party (on Main Street USA at Disney preferably) instead? Like I don't want every city to just model after Paris mindlessly, but rather find their own way to showcase their city. the way the nearby attractions spilled into the Seine was also quite cute. I was worried the boat ride would be boring for the athletes but it looks like there was sufficient sights to keep them entertained. As for the cauldron, I dig it! like having water mist from it from it just adds to the magical water-based atmosphere given the weather conditions. AND OKAY HAVING THE TORCH BEARERS COMBINE INTO A HOARD AS THE TORCH GETS 'HANDED OFF' WAS A LITTLE AWKWARD IN PRACTICE BUT IT ENDED UP WORKING LIKE AS THE MUSIC BUILT UP, SO DID THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE, IT JUST MADE SENSE VISUALLY Quote
Michelle Posted August 2, 2024 Report Posted August 2, 2024 3 hours ago, hektor said: Everything you mention is about Paris, not France. A large portion of France lies beyond Paris. There are rich cultures in Brittany, Alsace, the South of France, Corsica, and other regions. All of this was deliberately ignored, focusing solely on Paris—its history, quirks, and obsessions. Looking at previous ceremonies, I have the impression that no ceremony has ever been so skewed towards the host city at the expense of the host country. For instance, in Beijing, I remember a parade of children showcasing all the nationalities of China. I could cite other examples as well. This is such an interesting take that had not registered with me until you point it out. Quote
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