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Poll: Should the Commonwealth Games End?


Should the Commonwealth Games End?  

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  1. 1. Do you think the Commonwealth Games should be disbanded?

    • Yes, they have outlived their usefulness
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    • No, they still have a lot to offer
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What are members’ view on continuing with the Commonwealth Games? Do you think it‘S the moment to call time on them, or do you think they still ave a purpose for continuing on?

Personally, as someone who has long had a fondness for the “Commies”, and has defended them often in the past, it’s with sadness and regret that I think it’s a highly appropriate time to discontinue them.

At a time when two prospective hosts in a row have abandoned them and the CGF is having difficulty finding future hosts, I feel it’s pretty clear that the cost to benefits ratio has fallen dramatically. They don’t make commercial sense.

They’ve always been an anomaly on the crowded sporting calendar, but I think have become even more irrelevant as major “stars” skip the games in favour of world championships etc.

I believe the Commonwealth itself has lost a lot of prestige, and indeed the legacy of colonialism has become more of a problematic issue than a uniting factor. 

Whatever ones thoughts on the monarchy, I think Queen Elizabeth II was regarded with great respect, and the games were closely associated with her. King Charles I do not think engenders the same affection, at least not outside the UK.

As we approach the 100th anniversary of the games, I think it’s an appropriate time to let them go. Perhaps with one final celebration to send them off with a bang and an acknowledgement.

 

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18 minutes ago, Sir Rols said:

As we approach the 100th anniversary of the games, I think it’s an appropriate time to let them go. Perhaps with one final celebration to send them off with a bang and an acknowledgement.

This final celebration might have already happened in 2022, the way things are going now.

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No. The Show MUST go on . 

It was with great sadness that I along with many proud members of the Commonwealth family received the news that the Victorian Government would be withdrawing from their contract, and obligation to host the 23rd Commonwealth Games which were to be held in Regional Victoria in March 2026.

The Commonwealth Sport movement still has a bright future despite this shattering news. The first Games were held in Hamilton, Canada in 1930 which means we are coming up to the centenary edition of the event in seven short years. The Games are more than just a sporting event – it has a brings the Commonwealth nations together on the sporting fields which particularly provides opportunities of smaller nations that chance to be involved in a major sporting event and feel like they can achieve something special. Some athletes from smaller nations would not stand a chance at the Olympics – some wouldn’t not even meet the Olympic qualifying standards especially with limits on athlete numbers due to capacity at the Olympic Village. This is their Olympic Games.

The Games also showcase sports that are not in the Olympics like Netball, Squash, Lawn Bowls and Cricket. Like the athletes, this is their Olympic Games and a rare chance to be involved in a festival of sport and culture.

The Commonwealth has a uniqueness not seen in any other international multi sporting event by providing the opportunities of smaller nations that would usually participate under the Great Britain banner the chance to compete in their own right with their own identity. I am talking about nations like Scotland, Isle of Man, Jersey and even looking with an Australian lens with Norfolk Island too. This would be lost without the Commonwealth Games.

Through the Federation’s values of humanity, destiny, and equality, the festival of sport and culture has a wider impact than just the two weeks of sporting competition. It brings nations of the Commonwealth Games together.

The Games is known as a great stepping stone for many World and Olympic champions giving them exposure to International competition prior to making the next big step. Cathy Freeman and in modern times, Mollie O’Callaghan was on fire in the pool in Birmingham ahead of World Championships and Olympics next year. The Games are not just a stepping stone for athletes but also cities to host an Olympic Games. It provides cities who are flirting with the idea of bidding for an Olympic Games the opportunity to stage a major event to dangle the carrot to the IOC. It also helps inspire dreams of what an Olympic Games would be like. Without Manchester 2002 there would be no London 2012 and certainly without Gold Coast 2018 there would not have been the momentum to push forward with the winning bid to host the Brisbane 2032 Olympic and Paralympic Games.

Without a doubt, the Commonwealth Games biggest selling point is integration and how the para sport program is weaved into the wider Commonwealth sports program. This puts both para athletes and able bodied athletes on the same pedistole and all athletes to have their achievements celebrated by the Commonwealth family.

The Games itself still do hold a relevance and it’s rightful place in the modern sports calendar and all efforts should be made to keep the Games going. We have had roaring successes in recent games with backed grandstands in Melbourne, Glasgow, the Gold Coast and more recently Birmingham. Through the values of HUMANITY, DESTINY and EQUALITY, the Commonwealth Games have served the Commonwealth through sport for 97 years and long may it reign for many years to come.
 

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39 minutes ago, Victorian said:

No. The Show MUST go on . 

It was with great sadness that I along with many proud members of the Commonwealth family received the news that the Victorian Government would be withdrawing from their contract, and obligation to host the 23rd Commonwealth Games which were to be held in Regional Victoria in March 2026.

The Commonwealth Sport movement still has a bright future despite this shattering news.
 

But it doesn't, though. If it did, it wouldn't be in the non existent state its in now. Your denial won't change this. 

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The first Games were held in Hamilton, Canada in 1930 which means we are coming up to the centenary edition of the event in seven short years. The Games are more than just a sporting event – it has a brings the Commonwealth nations together on the sporting fields which particularly provides opportunities of smaller nations that chance to be involved in a major sporting event and feel like they can achieve something special. Some athletes from smaller nations would not stand a chance at the Olympics – some wouldn’t not even meet the Olympic qualifying standards especially with limits on athlete numbers due to capacity at the Olympic Village. This is their Olympic Games. 

The Games also showcase sports that are not in the Olympics like Netball, Squash, Lawn Bowls and Cricket. Like the athletes, this is their Olympic Games and a rare chance to be involved in a festival of sport and culture.

The Commonwealth has a uniqueness not seen in any other international multi sporting event by providing the opportunities of smaller nations that would usually participate under the Great Britain banner the chance to compete in their own right with their own identity. I am talking about nations like Scotland, Isle of Man, Jersey and even looking with an Australian lens with Norfolk Island too. This would be lost without the Commonwealth Games.

But thats precisely the issue - these nations don't create the market for a viable Commonwealth Games. Again, if it were so, then we wouldn't be having this conversation. I do agree with you that this is a big loss for small nations, which is precisely why the cancellation fee Victorian taxpayers gave to the CGF should go into a fund to support poorer Commonwealth nations to compete at the Olympics at World Champs. Commonwealth Sport should live on, but as a Foundation, not as its own Games. 

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The Games is known as a great stepping stone for many World and Olympic champions giving them exposure to International competition prior to making the next big step. Cathy Freeman and in modern times, Mollie O’Callaghan was on fire in the pool in Birmingham ahead of World Championships and Olympics next year. The Games are not just a stepping stone for athletes but also cities to host an Olympic Games. It provides cities who are flirting with the idea of bidding for an Olympic Games the opportunity to stage a major event to dangle the carrot to the IOC. It also helps inspire dreams of what an Olympic Games would be like. Without Manchester 2002 there would be no London 2012 and certainly without Gold Coast 2018 there would not have been the momentum to push forward with the winning bid to host the Brisbane 2032 Olympic and Paralympic Games.

Nah - Freeman, et al would have been successes regardless of the Commonwealth Games. 

I don't agree that Manchester 2002 and Gold Coast 2018 were as consequential to the 2012 and 2032 Olympics as people say. Its a very loose connection made during the bidding to state "yes, this country has hosted this type of event before."

In fact, Manchester 2002 and Melbourne 2006 were just their previous failed Olympic bids reheated and plated up as a Commonwealth Games. I guarantee if Sydney lost 2000 Melbourne would have been firmly focused on going for the 2004 or 2008 Olympics and not pursuing the Commonwealth Games.

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Without a doubt, the Commonwealth Games biggest selling point is integration and how the para sport program is weaved into the wider Commonwealth sports program. This puts both para athletes and able bodied athletes on the same pedistole and all athletes to have their achievements celebrated by the Commonwealth family.

Agree! The Para sports mixed in with the main program was a really nice touch. But its clearly not commercially viable. Again, Commonwealth Sport should put their money where their mouth is and take care of these Commonwealth athletes at the Paralympics. 
 

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The Games itself still do hold a relevance and it’s rightful place in the modern sports calendar and all efforts should be made to keep the Games going. We have had roaring successes in recent games with backed grandstands in Melbourne, Glasgow, the Gold Coast and more recently Birmingham. Through the values of HUMANITY, DESTINY and EQUALITY, the Commonwealth Games have served the Commonwealth through sport for 97 years and long may it reign for many years to come.

But again, this is your denial. It doesn't have relevance in a modern, post-colonial world. Especially in the post-2nd Elizabethan world. Melbourne, Glasgow, Gold Coast and Birmingham had great atmosphere (I was in Melbourne 2006 and the city had a great buzz) but clearly its not economically or culturally attractive anymore. The fact that these four examples are from just two nations makes the point even more obvious. 

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I’m going to vote “yes,” but I think they absolutely need to adapt. It’s a lot of fun to see places like Norfolk Island, St. Helena, Anguilla, etc. mix it up against larger territories at an event like that. 

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In its current form?...Yes they are done. You kind of felt it in Brum 22, the closing ceremony had a touch of farewell, but not we will see you again feeling. 

The games are too big and need to cut right down. 

The Queen passed away not long after Brum. It did feel like a proper end as she loved the Commonwealth. 

The sudden surge of interest in Christchurch is simply because the 50th anniversary of what was one of the finest CWGs ever hosted. It was also in a time when the CWGs were in the top tier of global track and field and swimming competitions. You could say the Brisbane 1982 CWGs was the last of these and of course the games nobody wanted in 1986 gave a double blow, with a boycott thrown in for good measure.

We kind of have the commercialisation of Los Angeles 1984 to blame for the sudden diminishing of the CWGs. This allowed the IOC aligned regional sports events to do the same. Massive sponsorship poured into events that would become the Daimond League, singular sports like swimming, cycling, rowing etc tournaments had more lucrative pay days, and the now mammoth World Track and Field Champs...all the while building up to the Olympics which has now become a monster that needs a decade in preparation for a host city now.

We need to look at the current Commonwealth as well. 

What's the point? The only thing we had in common was British conquest, and in most situations, it didn't go all that well.

The world as we know it is moving away from the "post-colonial" era. Many nations are breaking ties down to a simple "hi there" at the UN, forming their own regional blocs...perfectly fine.

So for me it's a YES to the current format of a singular city and 20 sports...Too costly, a strain on infrastructure, and not relevant anymore.

If Christchurch wants to get the feels for 2030, let them but cut down the event calendar or do what they propose to do...Move events into the surrounding regions -Oh My God! where have we heard that before.????

(sorry to Sir Rols for the long rant...been alive too long)

 

 

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26 minutes ago, Alexjc said:

(sorry to Sir Rols for the long rant...been alive too long)

That was actually a pretty damn good post Alex - It aligns  pretty well right on tee with how I see it. And I know we’ve both shared a high regard for the Commies in the past - so for both of us I think it’s more a case of regret.

12 hours ago, Victorian said:

The Games itself still do hold a relevance and it’s rightful place in the modern sports calendar and all efforts should be made to keep the Games going. We have had roaring successes in recent games with backed grandstands in Melbourne, Glasgow, the Gold Coast and more recently Birmingham. Through the values of HUMANITY, DESTINY and EQUALITY, the Commonwealth Games have served the Commonwealth through sport for 97 years and long may it reign for many years to come.
 

I do see where you’re coming from. It’s basically how I felt about the games for a very long time, and similar arguments to how I defended them in the past.

I just feel that we’ve now gone past the point where such sentiment alone is enough to sustain them. I just don’t think they’re viable any more. I’d prefer to see hem go out on a high - either that was Birmingham or it could be one last centenary farewell edition - than to sadly wither and dwindle further. 

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I liked that Scotland competes separately at the commies and i am very proud of Glasgow 2014, but in today's world i say it's time to end them and concentrate on the Olympics and Regional Games/Championships. 

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51 minutes ago, Scotguy II said:

I liked that Scotland competes separately at the commies and i am very proud of Glasgow 2014, but in today's world i say it's time to end them and concentrate on the Olympics and Regional Games/Championships. 

Agree with this too - maybe one day Scotland will be its own team at the Olympics! Who knows, it may happen before Brisbane 2032!

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I do like the Commonwealth Games, the spotlight it shines on smaller cities, different sports, & especially from a UK perspective it's always nice to see the Home Nations (& the islands) competing as themselves at the Commonwealths - remember McColgan at Birmingham? The cliche about it being friendlier than the Olympics does seem to ring true too. That said, it does feel like time's up, I'm no real monarchist but it does feel like something fundamentally changed with the Queen's death, & Victoria's withdrawal combined with what's happened to Birmingham council since 2022 cements it. I'm not sure I'd say the regional games are safe though, going on what's happened with Europe and the Pan Ams. We might be heading back to the time where the Olympics are the only big multi sports event, with the rest being regional and world championships, & it might not even be a bad thing...

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I think the Queen and Royal Family are somewhat irrelevant to it all - it's more about it just being a mini Olympics for a collection of countries which happen to be linked by that.    If the European Games had taken off in a more significant manner from a British point of view I think we'd be happy to see an end to the Commonwealth Games, but actually from a sporting point of view there is perhaps more value in some sports at least of the Commonwealth competition than continental based games.

 

What doesn't seem to be on the table and perhaps should be is awarding them to a country rather than a city and spreading events out World Cup style.    Indeed given the nature of many countries in the Commonwealth that probably opens up the possible hosts somewhat more, and it doesn't mean in the future cities or regions can't host rather than an entire country.   Politically though I think governments are always quite nervous about being seen to invest in one city at the expense of the rest of the country, although practically it can be cheaper to build that extra Velodrome in a host city rather than invest in transport links to a city that has an existing velodrome - but of course the latter generally would have more benefits for the public beyond the games.

 

Where it goes from here remains to be seen - at the moment I don't see 2026 happening and at best the games might return in 2030 for the centenial and then probably face similar problems after that.   In a way it's Australian politics that screwed over 2026 - if Victoria had just based the games around Melbourne in the first place we probably wouldn't be where we are now as Melbourne couldn't afford to be attached to such a failure.

 

 

 

 

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6 hours ago, Brekkie Boy said:

In a way it's Australian politics that screwed over 2026 - if Victoria had just based the games around Melbourne in the first place we probably wouldn't be where we are now as Melbourne couldn't afford to be attached to such a failure.

That would only delay the inevitable. A Commonwealth Games that alternates between being hosted in Australia and the UK would keep the games on life support, but it would not make them healthy.

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