SportLightning Posted January 5, 2024 Report Posted January 5, 2024 3 times after (Ironically the same number of years for 1986 FIFA World Cup after Colombia withdrawed, same with 2021 Copa America), Asunción (Paraguay) is most likely to be the new host as a replacement for Barranquilla (Colombia). Makes Asunción the favorite as a replacement host. Quote
SportLightning Posted January 5, 2024 Author Report Posted January 5, 2024 Although they will host the 2025 Junior Pan American Games, the 2027 games in Paraguay would be a perfect setting. Quote
SportLightning Posted January 6, 2024 Author Report Posted January 6, 2024 Roger87, i think Asuncion could be a good possible pick to host despite the 2025 Junior Pan Am Games happening there. If they replace Barranquilla, the 2025 Junior event would be a rehearsal for the 2027 games. Quote
Roger87 Posted January 7, 2024 Report Posted January 7, 2024 21 hours ago, SportLightning said: Roger87, i think Asuncion could be a good possible pick to host despite the 2025 Junior Pan Am Games happening there. If they replace Barranquilla, the 2025 Junior event would be a rehearsal for the 2027 games. Sorry but I need to recognize my full disbelief on this as serious point lol. Junior Pan Am Games are like Youth Olympics - A smaller event with different standards in infrastructure, security and inversment. If you believe a Youth Olympic city is 100% capable to do a proper big Summer Olympics , especially in upcoming circles, then you think in a full delusional idea. It's like pretending to say Dakar (Senegal) is ready to do the Summer Olympics. Well this is exactly what you consider this as Asuncion more likely than Guadalajara or Monterrey But hey, dreaming is free. Also, in case you didn't know, Asunción beat out Santa Marta for the Junior event - The 13th most populated city of Colombia! And that's not counting aspects like economy, experience in sporting events, infrastructure and more... Just take an example of Cali. A Third of the events needed to spread out to Barranquilla, Palmira and Buga. And we're talking about Colombia, a country 8 times more populated and 7 times richer than Paraguay. Paraguay has 6.1 million of habitants. That's just less 800K more people in all the South American country than all the population in both Monterrey and Guadalajara. And if we go for economy, any of the states of Nuevo Leon or Jalisco ALONE produced the double of GDP than all Paraguay. Paraguay is 15th on Latin American GDP, below Bolivia and Panama. Mexico is 2nd, barely behind to Brazil. And let's not forget, Mexico could do that exactly on similar circunstances - FIFA World Cup 1986 (Including a devastating earthquake a year before). Paraguay did need to have the Presidency of Conmebol to reach the inaugural match of 2030. Unless the PASO really wanted the most austere events for 2027 (Which showed by Santiago they weren't), there's simple no way Asuncion is a good possible pick to replace Barranquilla in just 3 years and definitely isn't most likely to win if there's a Mexican bid. Only Brazil, USA or Canada can offer fight. But let be serious on this. Quote
yoshi Posted January 7, 2024 Report Posted January 7, 2024 Wouldn't LA be best? Get the Games a host, while giving LA a test event for 28, fill the gap in that 3 year run of World Cup - 27 - Olympics, get the US interested in the Pan Ams again... everyone wins. Quote
cfm Jeremie Posted January 7, 2024 Report Posted January 7, 2024 With what budget and what human resources? Quote
yoshi Posted January 7, 2024 Report Posted January 7, 2024 Well I don't know about the practical aspects, just that it looks most logical. Is there anywhere in the US that could do it, if there'd be any interest at all? Quote
Roger87 Posted January 7, 2024 Report Posted January 7, 2024 4 hours ago, yoshi said: Well I don't know about the practical aspects, just that it looks most logical. Is there anywhere in the US that could do it, if there'd be any interest at all? Yeah, I think LA (And USA in general) is, alongside Mexico and Brazil, the best (and perhaps only) bets to replace Barranquilla in a short time. However, for some reason USA is not interested in making the Pan Am Games. Right now, the main interest for 2027 is the Women's FIFA World Cup. Although made with Mexico, if this is like the 2026 World Cup, only Mexico will have the first round of matches and all the elimination rounds will go to USA anyway. The other point I could see Mexico winning is if they want to gain more points for the 2036/2040 Summer Olympics. Quote
SportLightning Posted January 7, 2024 Author Report Posted January 7, 2024 12 hours ago, Roger87 said: Junior Pan Am Games are like Youth Olympics - A smaller event with different standards in infrastructure, security and inversment. Well this is exactly what you consider this as Asuncion more likely than Guadalajara or Monterrey But hey, dreaming is free. As far right now Asunción could win as a solid pick. There is a strong chance Paraguay could win. You could dream that too with Mexico, it's not likely Guadalajara/Monterrey or São Paulo could win it. But we'll see what happens. Quote
SportLightning Posted January 7, 2024 Author Report Posted January 7, 2024 That's what i heard on InsideTheGames. Asunción currently in the lead. Quote
SportLightning Posted January 7, 2024 Author Report Posted January 7, 2024 That makes Asunción the favorite to host. Quote
Roger87 Posted January 7, 2024 Report Posted January 7, 2024 7 minutes ago, SportLightning said: As far right now Asunción could win as a solid pick. There is a strong chance Paraguay could win. You could dream that too with Mexico, it's not likely Guadalajara/Monterrey or São Paulo could win it. But we'll see what happens. It's not about what I want or dream, it's about reality. Taking facts. If Asunción is competing with San Salvador, Santa Marta or Santa Fe then you may have a point to believe Asunción is a solid pick. But from the moment a serious bid enters here then Asunción is over. If you keep that delusion go ahead. As for InsidetheGames... They have India as the favourites to host 2036 Summer Olympics, and before that they have Almaty in 2022 and Stockholm in 2026. Case granted. Quote
Roger87 Posted January 7, 2024 Report Posted January 7, 2024 13 minutes ago, SportLightning said: That's what i heard on InsideTheGames. Asunción currently in the lead. I checked this, but you missed some interesting parts of the info: Quote The state of São Paulo and its capital, São Paulo, the economic engine of Brazil and as large as several South American countries put together (45 million people, equivalent to the total population of Chile, Paraguay, Uruguay, and Ecuador), has shown interest and is exploring political and economic support. Another city interested in hosting is Guadalajara, in the state of Jalisco, with the aim of repeating the 2011 Panam Games 13 years later. They have already announced plans to renovate all the sports facilities in this city of 1.5 million people in western Mexico. They also have the advantage of being one of the venues for the 2026 FIFA World Cup, which would allow them to use some of the sports, tourism and transport infrastructure that has been developed. This is what the general director of CODE Jalisco, Mr Fernando Ortega Ramos, said on his X account (formerly Twitter). They are still two other main bids from better candidates. The point is about when and how they will present. That's the issue. Unless these countries withdraws, Asunción won't have any chance with just one of these on front. That's the way of the game, going forward. Quote
SportLightning Posted February 1, 2024 Author Report Posted February 1, 2024 Asunción (Paraguay) and Lima (Peru) are the only two candidates left after Mexico (Gudalajara) and Brazil (São Paulo) dropped out before the deadline. https://redmas.com.co/deportes/Llora-Barranquilla-Lima-y-Asuncion-candidatas-para-realizar-los-Juegos-Panamericanos-2027-20240201-0023.html Quote
SportLightning Posted February 2, 2024 Author Report Posted February 2, 2024 https://www.panamsports.org/en/news-sport/asuncion-and-lima-are-the-official-candidate-cities-for-the-2027-pan-american-games/ Quote
SportLightning Posted February 2, 2024 Author Report Posted February 2, 2024 It will be decided on the 12th next month. Quote
SportLightning Posted February 7, 2024 Author Report Posted February 7, 2024 I think Asunción (Paraguay) could beat Lima (Peru) to host the Pan Am Games in 2027. Quote
SportLightning Posted March 12, 2024 Author Report Posted March 12, 2024 Will Asunción beat Lima to host the 2027 Pan American and Parapan American Games? We're about to find out tomorrow. Quote
Bear Posted March 12, 2024 Report Posted March 12, 2024 The Extraordinary Assembly will be streamed on the Panam Sports Channel live at 9 AM EDT / 6 AM PDT. Each city gets 40 minutes to present to the assembly, and the vote will follow after. https://www.panamsports.org/en/news-sport/lima-or-asuncion-the-americas-elect-the-host-city-of-the-2027-pan-american-games/ Quote
Roger87 Posted March 12, 2024 Report Posted March 12, 2024 And Lima was picked at the end. Never underestimate the geopolitical power. Paraguay entered in that feud with Colombia for nothing Quote
Guilga Posted March 12, 2024 Report Posted March 12, 2024 Well, it's better to have someone ready in a special case like this, right? In the end, let's be honest, Lima is already better anyway than a city who would need to build literally everything in half the time needed. Asunción really had a chance? 2 Quote
FYI Posted March 12, 2024 Report Posted March 12, 2024 A little you-know-who foolishly thought that they did had a chance. On 1/7/2024 at 5:11 PM, Roger87 said: Yeah, I think LA (And USA in general) is, alongside Mexico and Brazil, the best (and perhaps only) bets to replace Barranquilla in a short time. However, for some reason USA is not interested in making the Pan Am Games. The last time the U.S. bid for this was for the 2007 Pan Ams with San Antonio, which ultimate went to Rio. I just don't think there's much of an appetite for the Pan Ams here in the U.S. And as "logical" as L.A. would've sounded for 2027, with the World Cup in 2026, & also the Superbowl just being given to L.A. again in 2027, & obviously the 2028 Olympics, their mega sporting event plate is already VERY full. Even for a city like L.A. there comes a point where too much is simply too much. Plus, there's already a reasonably well established NOlympics group in L.A. still trying to throw a wrench in the wheels of the 2028 Olympics. So they probably don't need even more ammunition with throwing a Pan Am's into that mix. On 1/7/2024 at 5:33 PM, Roger87 said: It's not about what I want or dream, it's about reality. Taking facts. If Asunción is competing with San Salvador, Santa Marta or Santa Fe then you may have a point to believe Asunción is a solid pick. But from the moment a serious bid enters here then Asunción is over. If you keep that delusion go ahead. IDK what it is with this clown. It's like they ALWAYS go out of their way to pick the most illogical, nonsensical bids/cities, etc. for many of these sporting events. EVERY. SINGLE. TIME. I didn't have much interest in this, but wanted to see the final result anyway, just to see little you-know-who be WRONG yet again. On 1/7/2024 at 5:33 PM, Roger87 said: As for InsidetheGames... They have India as the favourites to host 2036 Summer Olympics, and before that they have Almaty in 2022 and Stockholm in 2026. Case granted. Recently, ITG's been picking Doh-a as the "clear favorite" for 2036. Guess that's what you get for 'listening' to ITG's lately. And now, the little you-know-who has just started a Lima 2027 thread, which is what they should've done from the very beginning. 1 Quote
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