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Suncorp seems like a very capable stadium. Sure it won't be another Sydney or London, but Sochi and Rio has demonstrated it's still possible to do a pretty cool ceremony in a rectangular field. Also Vancouver, while not exactly rectangular, had their field of play significantly reduced by the extra seating, and we all saw it still worked great. As for the athletes being able to all fit inside, well they all fit in the Maracana, no? I don't really see any major issues out of using Suncorp tbh.

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19 hours ago, Bear said:

Suncorp seems like a very capable stadium. Sure it won't be another Sydney or London, but Sochi and Rio has demonstrated it's still possible to do a pretty cool ceremony in a rectangular field. Also Vancouver, while not exactly rectangular, had their field of play significantly reduced by the extra seating, and we all saw it still worked great. As for the athletes being able to all fit inside, well they all fit in the Maracana, no? I don't really see any major issues out of using Suncorp tbh.

Vancouver & Sochi were both Winter Olympics, though. Which have only a *quarter* of the athletes that the Summer Olympics do. Maracana is also still a larger stadium than Suncorp/Lang Park. Plus, as already mentioned in the Brisbane venues thread, the Maracana wasn't totally in rectangular mode during the Olympics there. 

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counter idea then: why not use QEII? if they go with it for athletics then it means they'd probably go with the suggested renovations (demolishing the stands and replacing them with new permanent ones, along with temporary ones to boost capacity for Games-time). They could do something like what Birmingham did for the CWG, which worked nicely in my opinion:

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sure it wont look as nice as past editions but like, does it really matter at this point?

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Sure, one can make the argument what does it really matter at this point, but for an organization like the IOC who's been so used to the pizazz for so long, & also coming right after the high's of Paris & L.A. then to QSAC?! :blink: You know people are gonna make the comparisons, & then the ridicules, especially by the international media, like "what was Brisbane thinking?!" As Gonzo put it in the other thread, QSAC is a "toilet" no matter what you do to it, barring a total rebuild (which then puts it into another Gabba debacle).

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2 hours ago, Bear said:

counter idea then: why not use QEII? if they go with it for athletics then it means they'd probably go with the suggested renovations (demolishing the stands and replacing them with new permanent ones, along with temporary ones to boost capacity for Games-time). They could do something like what Birmingham did for the CWG, which worked nicely in my opinion:

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sure it wont look as nice as past editions but like, does it really matter at this point?

Birmingham did a great job IMO. Better than many Olympic OCs for a while. Got the tone right too - celebratory rather than somber.

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Anyone got a non-paywalled link to this - the teaser sounds bizarre

Inside Brisbane’s bid to save the Olympic Games

Four opening ceremonies and a pledge ‘not to bankrupt’ the city are two ways the Games’ brand will be rebuilt in Brisbane, powerful organisers say….

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2 hours ago, Sir Rols said:

Anyone got a non-paywalled link to this - the teaser sounds bizarre

Inside Brisbane’s bid to save the Olympic Games

Four opening ceremonies and a pledge ‘not to bankrupt’ the city are two ways the Games’ brand will be rebuilt in Brisbane, powerful organisers say….

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Inside Brisbane’s bid to save the Olympic Games

This is the inside plan to resurrect the Olympic Games brand in Brisbane and regain the excitement lost after almost three years of government infighting, public protests and insular leadership.

Brisbane’s 2032 Olympic Games opening ceremony could be split across several regional cities as part of an ambitious pitch to rebuild support for the “damaged” event, powerbroker John Coates has declared.
The Sunday-Mail can reveal the inside plan to resurrect the Olympic Games brand in Brisbane and regain the excitement lost after almost three years of government infighting, public protests and insular leadership that has made for a toxic atmosphere.
Mr Coates, the International Olympic Committee and Brisbane 2032 vice president who last week declared its brand had been “damaged” by the controversial Gabba rebuild, called for a better focus on regional Queensland and a demonstration of the financial viability of hosting the event.
“Once the community understands we’re not bankrupting them out of this, once they understand we’re using 84 per cent of existing venues and upgrading other existing ones – then the message we had originally that the Games can cut even, will be there,” he said.
“That must go a long way to restoring confidence.”
Mr Coates argued more needed to be done to build support for the Games outside the state’s southeast corner and revealed a left-field idea cooked up by Australian Olympic Committee President Ian Chesterman.
“We really need to be doing something more in the regional communities … Ian suggested things like having part of the opening ceremony in Townsville, Cairns and the Gold Coast and letting the community being part of that,” he said.
“Welcome Olympic and non-Olympic sportsmen.
“I’d love to do that … Johnathan Thurston could appear in Townsville.
“There’s no reason not to.”
Mr Coates, a veteran of the Olympic movement, insisted excitement for Brisbane 2032 would rebound across the state within months when Australian athletes arrived in Paris.
The Sunday-Mail can also reveal targeted sentiment polling undertaken by the state government in 2023 found falling community support and excitement for the Games compared with a year earlier.
In 2023 it found community support for Brisbane 2032 “remains moderate”, with 73 per cent of Queenslanders expressing support – a decline from 76 per cent a year earlier.
Worryingly for the government, however, was the regional breakdown which revealed Mackay, Townsville, outback and far north Queensland residents were “more likely to think Brisbane 2032 won’t benefit them personally”.
That polling prompted Mr Miles to put planning the Games behind the scenes of his government by axing the three Olympics-related portfolios that featured in Ms Palaszczuk’s Cabinet.
Queensland parliament this week debated a motion by regional Queensland’s Katter’s Australia Party to “immediately commence the necessary steps” to cancel the 2032 Brisbane Olympic Games. The party argued it would benefit only the southeast corner while regional roads and services were left in ruin.
The Katter’s push was supported by Pauline Hanson’s One Nation but defeated 84-3.
Former Brisbane Lord Mayor Graham Quirk, whose early advocacy for the Olympics has led some to dub him “father of the Games”, is due to report on 2032 venues by March 18.
His review, which will likely call for the Gabba rebuild to be scrapped, will land on State Development Minister Grace Grace’s desk almost 1000 days since Brisbane won the bid.
While residents would rightly question the progress of Games’ planning and the lack of promised benefits in the 971 days since the announcement, Mr Coates insists the important cogs in the Olympic organising committee were turning.
“It would be a mistake to underestimate the work (president) Andrew Liveris and (CEO) Cindy Hook are doing,” he said.
“We’re going all right.”
Mr Liveris agreed, citing the establishment of an inaugural Organising Committee strategy, Games plan, annual report, brand assets and team structure as evidence Brisbane’s Olympic planning was ticking along.
“While others have focused on politics, we’ve been focused on progress,” he said.
“Sentiment will ebb and flow over the course of the next eight years, but as an Organising Committee, we remain driven by our long-term vision and the job at hand – preparing for and delivering an Olympic and Paralympic Games to be proud of.
“We’ve had a busy and productive 18 months since our first staff joined the Organising Committee.”
Mr Liveris said work was underway to recruit three paid First Nations interns to support the development of its brand and emblems before the team turns its attention to the sports program.
“All this work – and more – has taken place before an Organising Committee is traditionally stood up, seven years out from a Games,” he said.
Ms Grace said she was “confident” Queenslanders would embrace the Games as planning progresses.
“Our current review of Games venues will help to deliver value-for-money venues which will benefit the state long after the Olympic flame is extinguished,” she said.
“The government is determined to deliver a Brisbane 2032 Olympic and Paralympic Games that brings Queenslanders together and creates legacy benefits for decades to come.
“We won the Games and we will deliver them and the best is yet to come”.
Brisbane 2032 Organising Committee director and five-time Olympian Natalie Cook said the decade between the announcement and opening ceremony was always going to deliver challenges.
“This is the cycle, we have a 10-year runway and this is the cycle where there’s a bit or nervousness or budgeting,” she said.
Of course there’s challenges, of course there’s problems – that’s what happens to an Olympic athlete.
“An athlete goes through injury, pain, doubt and fear – and it seems like it’s the same for the politicians and community right now.
“We know that when you get to the start, you’re in the best place.”
Ms Cook agreed Brisbane’s excitement would berejuvenatedd by Paris” in July.
“The best way to rebuild the Olympic and Paralympic brand is performances on the field, pool and beach,” she said.
“Paris will bring the adrenaline and the excitement back for the city, the state and the country.
“This (2032) is the greatest thing that will happen to our and city and our state since Sydney 2000.”
Legacy, Ms Cook argued, would be best delivered to Brisbane with a new Gabba stadium build before the Games for the AFL and cricket.
“This is an AFL and a cricket legacy and it’s a city legacy,” she said.
“The Gabba is a meeting place for sport – the Olympics will borrow it and the Paralympics will borrow it.
“I’m a fan of the Gabba. This will be the greatest legacy.
Ms Cook is known for herbounding optimism and energy, but acknowledged right now Brisbane’s Games’ enthusiasm “has waned”.
“I’m hopeful the dwindling support is temporary and it will pass because it is a long runway and usually Brisbane wouldn’t be announced until next year,” she said.
“The danger of having a long runway is there are opportunities for support to come and go.”
Ms Cook, who competed in Atlanta in 1996, said the Olympic rings in the city’s Centennial Park were “still shiny” when she visited last year, 27 years after the Games.
“This will be about what Queensland looks like in 2042,” she said.

 

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Thanks @Bear. Do you subscribe, or is there a site where you can get these things?

Anyway, my interest was piqued by the four ceremonies mention, but it sounds like just some thought bubbles at this stage.

Interesting the 73 per cent support rate mentioned. Not too bad a figure - and you’d think it would have dropped more considering the Gabba saga. And way different from the 38 per cent mentioned last week in another article. 

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Opening ceremonies all throughout Queensland? :blink: Sounds quite discombobulated. And here I thought L.A.'s duel stadium ceremony idea was a bit much. That's probably where they're getting the idea from, though.

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On 2/18/2024 at 8:30 PM, FYI said:

Opening ceremonies all throughout Queensland? :blink: Sounds quite discombobulated. And here I thought L.A.'s duel stadium ceremony idea was a bit much. That's probably where they're getting the idea from, though.

It’ll be interesting to see how LA does it.

Yeah, it sounds a bit disjointed, but so many OC segments these days are pre-filmed and just played to the stadium that live crosses might not work all that differently. And I could see, perhaps, the whole thing starting with First Nations welcome to country ceremonies across the State culminating in a main one in Meanjin/Brisbane. That would work okay IMO.

Speaking of Welcome to Country celebrations, I wonder if they’re going to do one before each sports session in 2032? Like we and NZ did before each match at the Women’s World Cup.

While Coates was quite entitled to make his suggestions to the venues inquiry - that is, indeed an IOC concern as well, I’m less accepting of him trying to dictate ceremonies. Choreographing the OC is the artistic director’s and producer’s jobs, not his.

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5 hours ago, Sir Rols said:

 

While Coates was quite entitled to make his suggestions to the venues inquiry - that is, indeed an IOC concern as well, I’m less accepting of him trying to dictate ceremonies. Choreographing the OC is the artistic director’s and producer’s jobs, not his.

Yeah absolutely. 

I cant see the Welcome to Country being the Act 1 of the the Ceremonies, and then an Acknowledgement before each events. 

He will be shot down for trying to interfere with this. The IOC needs to adapt to the cultures and ways of the host, not the other way around.

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8 minutes ago, Australian Kiwi said:

I cant see the Welcome to Country being the Act 1 of the the Ceremonies, and then an Acknowledgement before each events. 

Really? I think it’s pretty inevitable. Welcome to Country is pretty standard for everything now, from the smallest press conference up to most sporting events. 

It’ll do the heads in of the likes of Sam Newman, Pauline Hanson and Katter, but I can’t see  the Welcome to Country NOT anchoring most events at the games.

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8 minutes ago, Sir Rols said:

Really? I think it’s pretty inevitable. Welcome to Country is pretty standard for everything now, from the smallest press conference up to most sporting events. 

It’ll do the heads in of the likes of Sam Newman, Pauline Hanson and Katter, but I can’t see  the Welcome to Country NOT anchoring most events at the games.

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Do you think Ric Birch will be involved again, Brisbane being his home city?  He seems to have slowed down (i.e., didn't hear too much about him in this last triad of Asian Olympic Games, and no word of any involvement in Paris).  I think he is having health problems, hence we don't hear too much from or about him. 

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1 hour ago, sebastien1214 said:

As for Brisbane, I must admit that they seem to be in a complicated position: the Brisbane River would indeed suffer from the comparison with the Seine (but at the same time, good luck challenging the Seine in Paris; the Brisbane River is far from being the only river in this case), but if the Paris & LA OOCs both take place in the city, it would be complicated from a symbolic point of view for Brisbane to "justify" a possible return in the stadium for the OOC. And I think that these games in Paris & LA will have a big impact on those in Brisbane (and the following ones), since in my opinion these two Olympics will have the same impact as Barcelona 1992 with regard to the "renovation" of the Olympics; and that there will be a before and an after.

 

57 minutes ago, yoshi said:

Yeah I mean that'd sure remove one aspect of Brisbane's stadium problem...I think they will have a river ceremony, pretty much every river would suffer by comparison to the Seine in Paris so that's not a massive problem. If they put the athletics at Carrara, changing it to a Gold Coast Games more than a Brisbane one, maybe they could use Surfer's Paradise? It's iconic in its way...

I’ve long thought a beach ceremony - either on the Gold Coast or Stradbroke Island would be more fitting for Australia. I’m pretty certain too there will be a strong Aboriginal element.

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20 hours ago, Sir Rols said:

 

 

I’ve long thought a beach ceremony - either on the Gold Coast or Stradbroke Island would be more fitting for Australia. I’m pretty certain too there will be a strong Aboriginal element.

this is uncanny - I came here after reading your "suffering by comparison" comment in the Paris 2024 thread and the thought occurred to me--- why not have the Opening Ceremony literally on the Gold Coast. I've got to admit, that would be very special and very unique. 

A Brisbane River ceremony will only invite unfair comparison to Paris eight years prior. They'd be shooting themselves in the foot. 

I can't quite think of how, but something on the beach would be amazing. My only concern is winter, and that the sun sets to the west (behind the towers). Otherwise a late afternoon start into darkness would be great.

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Sochi 2014 and Rio 2016 were the only OC to be held on a rectangular field and it turned out to be well presented. If Lang Park is to be used for the OC, it'll be the first stadium since the Maracana to be a rectangular-shaped stadium to be used for an OC

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On 9/7/2023 at 12:11 AM, TorchbearerSydney said:

Bluey would be the perfect mascot for Brisbane (the show is set there)........wonder if the IOC would try something different like this. Mascots have got a bit ho-hum.

Lol! I just came across this. It’s a few years old now, but here’s hoping

Bluey creators offer to design ‘unique’ Brisbane Olympics mascot

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