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On 11/11/2023 at 12:39 PM, stryker said:

Nice's bigger problem would be what to do with a new ice arena after the Olympics

 https://www.bfmtv.com/cote-d-azur/replay-emissions/azur-politiques/jo-2030-la-cote-d-azur-est-elle-prete_VN-202311090987.html
It is said (french) here that it would be a 12 000 seats ice rink : 6 000 permanent & 6 000 temporary

from here https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Championnat_de_France_de_hockey_sur_glace

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from here https://liguemagnus.com/statistiques-collectives/

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It seems that the bid is mainly based on several projects initiated by the mayor in recent years within the 'Eco Valley' to the west of Nice.

  • A new Multimodal Exchange Hub planed for 2028

https://www.nicecotedazur.org/projets/pole-dechanges-multimodal/

"The Multimodal Exchange Hub will offer complete intermodality, enabling tram-airport connections (direct access to the airport), tram-bus (urban and intercity buses), tram-train (TGV and regional trains), tram-car (700-space park-and-ride and car-sharing stations), tram-bike (Vélo Bleu bicycles)"

  • An extension of the airport planned for 2026

https://www.lefigaro.fr/nice/aeroport-de-nice-nous-devons-avoir-un-accueil-a-la-hauteur-de-la-cote-d-azur-20230518

"We anticipate 18 million passengers in the coming years. Whether it's in 2030 or 2035, we will be prepared thanks to this extension"

  • A new convention center in the Eco Valley planned for 2028

https://nicepresse.com/nice-du-retard-pour-le-futur-palais-des-congres-de-la-plaine-du-var-pas-pour-celui-du-port/

"The ambition is to compete with European rivals, offering an ultra-modern Business and Innovation Center at the heart of the eco-business valley for companies and startups, near the international airport and the multimodal hub (new SNCF station, tramway...)"

Would this be suitable for hockey ice rinks?
  • Several real estate projects

https://france3-regions.francetvinfo.fr/provence-alpes-cote-d-azur/alpes-maritimes/nice/et-si-la-ville-du-futur-etait-en-train-de-sortir-de-terre-a-nice-2736278.html

"The neighborhood is also connected to its environment. The center of Nice and its train station can be reached in 15 minutes. With Nice Côte d’Azur airport, the rest of the planet is accessible in 10 minutes!"

One of these real estate projects could be suitable for an olympic village!

  • A new green corridor planned for 2030

https://nicepresse.com/nice-une-seconde-coulee-verte-de-20-hectares-amenagee-dans-quelques-annees/

"In its effort to turn the area into a "green lung" within the city, the Metropolis aims to offer various landscaped settings in the heart of a highly urbanized area in recent decades.To the south, plans are underway to create sports and recreational facilities. The goal: to transform it into a miniature "Central Park" of the French Riviera (the original area comprises 340 hectares)"

This could be suitable for a kind of olympic parc!

And also this project in the city center:

  • A new convention center on the harbor planned for 2025

https://www.francebleu.fr/infos/societe/un-palais-des-congres-va-etre-construit-sur-le-port-de-nice-pour-remplacer-l-acropolis-7009603

"10,000 m2 of premises will be built by June 2025, for the Ocean Summit, the United Nations conference on the oceans. But there is no question that this will only be used for this international event"

It's  been announced as the media center for potential Olympic Games!

Here is an implementation on the map
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35 minutes ago, Roger87 said:

I heard about some of these, but I didn't know all of this. Some of these projects are doing regardless the WOG bid since these were planned way back. 

exactly, but it's quite smart to take advantage of all these projects that were started before and to seize the opportunity to host the Olympic Games.
The only project that must be considered with regard to the Olympics is the new ice rink, precisely because it had not been planned before. The famous 5% to build!
In the same way, the mayor of Nice was smart enough to add a snow venue (ski/snowboard cross) in the Nice hub by taking advantage of the developments decided last year for Isola 2000 ski resort .
https://www.lefigaro.fr/nice/hotels-quatre-etoiles-nouvelle-residence-pres-de-nice-isola-2000-fait-sa-mue-en-vue-des-jo-d-hiver-2030-20231109

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  • 2 weeks later...

A new Venue Masterplan can be seen in this file:

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Isola 2000 (initially planned for Ski/Snowboard cross and quite far from Nice) has been removed
Val d'Isère (initially planned for Slalom apine skiing and quite far from Méribel/Courchevel) has been removed

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2 minutes ago, Sir Rols said:

 

Do you have to spam multiple threads with links to the poll?

 

The Gamesbids Poll is not appearing on the actual Gamesbids website.

Yes, so the poll is now appearing on the Gamesbids website in addition to the Gamesbids twitter (X) platform.   

There’s considerable interest in the events which have just transpired in Paris and lots of controversy.   There is no compulsion to participate in the Ganesbids polls nor even read Gamesbids posts of any kind.   That’s up to the “viewers” as Dame Edna would say.

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2 minutes ago, AustralianFan said:

The Gamesbids Poll is not appearing on the actual Gamesbids website.

Yes, so the poll is now appearing on the Gamesbids website in addition to the Gamesbids twitter (X) platform.   

There’s considerable interest in the events which have just transpired in Paris and lots of controversy.   There is no compulsion to participate in the Ganesbids polls nor even read Gamesbids posts of any kind.   That’s up to the “viewers” as Dame Edna would say.

Once is fine. Likely in the 2030 bids thread. Posting it across multiple threads is spam. We know you get excited and hyperactive after an EB session, but calm down. 

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4 minutes ago, Sir Rols said:

Once is fine. Likely in the 2030 bids thread. Posting it across multiple threads is spam. We know you get excited and hyperactive after an EB session, but calm down. 

You’re mistaken @Sir Rols.

Two different polls posted in two different threads on Gamesbids.com

No repetition at all.

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6 minutes ago, Sir Rols said:

Once is fine. Likely in the 2030 bids thread. Posting it across multiple threads is spam. We know you get excited and hyperactive after an EB session, but calm down. 

 

1 minute ago, AustralianFan said:

You’re mistaken @Sir Rols.

Two different polls posted in two different threads on Gamesbids.com

No repetition at all.

The first Gamesbids Poll posted above in this “Nice-Alpes Francaise 2030” thread asks:

  • “Do you agree with the IOC choice of #France to host the 2030 #Olympics and Paralympic Winter Games (pending final approvals)?”

 

The second and very different Gamesbids poll asks the following question and was posted in the “2030 Olympic Winter Bids” thread:

  • “Do you support the #IOC decision to give #Switzerland the exclusive opportunity to host the 2038 Winter #Olympics (and not #Sweden), locking all others out of the process until 2042?”
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Why do I have this sinking feeling that Paris 2024 OC wil be tres, tres bizarre -- and it will just be a prelude to an EVEN more outre, outre ceremonie d'pverture.  

So, FIVE OVs?  So the big teams will have their lodging split into 5? :blink: Wow.   NOT LIKING this bid at all. 

Last 2 Olympics torches:

Albertville 1992 - that Philippe Starck turd  :wacko:
Paris 2024 - the Aneurysm torch 
Nice-Alpes 2030 - a rancid baguette or a Jerry Lewis hologram.  YIKES!!  

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No one wants the Winter Games except for a few politicians, but the citizens are against it.

The local opposition is very strong.

For Annecy 2018, there was a bit of excitement, but that's no longer the case today. Mindsets have changed.

With climate change, snowfall has become very unpredictable, especially in La Clusaz, Le Grand Bornand, Serre Chevalier, and Montgenèvre.
France should canceled this bid

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8 minutes ago, Tulsa said:

No one wants the Winter Games except for a few politicians, but the citizens are against it.

The local opposition is very strong.

For Annecy 2018, there was a bit of excitement, but that's no longer the case today. Mindsets have changed.

With climate change, snowfall has become very unpredictable, especially in La Clusaz, Le Grand Bornand, Serre Chevalier, and Montgenèvre.
France should canceled this bid

Obviously not strong enough.  Why should they cancel it?  Where else do you think the IOC should put the 2030 Olympics?

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23 hours ago, neige said:

A new Venue Masterplan can be seen in this file:

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Isola 2000 (initially planned for Ski/Snowboard cross and quite far from Nice) has been removed
Val d'Isère (initially planned for Slalom apine skiing and quite far from Méribel/Courchevel) has been removed

Finally, it seems Isola2000 and Val d'Isère are still in the bid :huh:
I don't think this feasibility-assessment file is really up to date
https://www.bfmtv.com/cote-d-azur/replay-emissions/bonsoir-cote-d-azur/c-est-quelque-chose-d-incroyable-isola-2000-devrait-accueillir-des-epreuves-des-jo-2030_VN-202311300684.html
“It’s something incredible”: Isola 2000 should host 2030 Olympic events
https://www.francetvinfo.fr/sports/sports-d-hiver/ski-alpin/jo-d-hiver-2030-en-france-c-est-une-reconnaissance-pour-val-d-isere-et-les-alpes-francaises_6215094.html
2030 Winter Olympics in France: “It’s recognition” for Val d’Isère and the French Alps
 

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Didn't even realise they were interested.  God, I hate this backroom bidding process - feels like their response to past corruption in the bidding process is just to have an openly corrupt process now instead.

 

That said I'm very much in favour of a French Winter Olympics.   Surely though they need to rebrand it as Nice 2030 - if for no other reason than for Nice to fully capitalise on it.   Everybody knows the French Alps are there - so not using it to advertise Nice as widely as possible would be a missed opportunity.

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I think that's dumb, too. It should be named after the anchor city, not it's mountain range. That's like saying Salt Lake City-Rockies. So dumb. Another perplexing (to say the least) name designation is the hyphonated crap, i.e. Milan-Cortina. 

Yeah, I know they did that so the smaller involved communities can feel "included". But if that's the case, why not include ALL of them then. It's just dumb. Again, that'd be like Salt Lake City-Park City. Cut it out. Just pick one, the *main city* & be done with it. They stopped Vancouver-Whistler from doing it. Now it seems like the IOC is just giving in to it cause they're so desperate these days, even though their so-called "Charter" dictates that only a sole city be designated as the host city..

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32 minutes ago, Brekkie Boy said:

That said I'm very much in favour of a French Winter Olympics.   Surely though they need to rebrand it as Nice 2030 - if for no other reason than for Nice to fully capitalise on it.   Everybody knows the French Alps are there - so not using it to advertise Nice as widely as possible would be a missed opportunity.

@yoshi and I were discussing exactly that in our plotting for this year’s logo comp. I know the French started calling it Nice-Alpes Francaises after the original working title of Auvergne-Rhône-Alpes and Provence-Alpes-Côte d'Azur got far too unwieldy (hence why I edited the title of the thread). The media seems to be just going with France 2030, or “the French bid”.  I personally think either Nice-Alpes Francaises or just Nice should be the brand - France 2030 just sounds like a FIFA WC. But maybe Macron again will want to label this as a “National” games.

Anyway, YOU all get the chance to decide your own labelling in this year’s comp at this link:

 

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Total rookie question because I sincerely do not know.  With Nice OG doing so well in the soccer/football realm, could one of the new stadiums be purposed in some way to accommodate more people?  Their stadium is a tad on the small side and they have been pushing Europe, and maybe even Champions League this year.

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