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So the concept of "Alpes françaises 2030" has been unveiled today.

There will be 4 areas, each one served by an athletes village:

  • "Haute-Savoie" zone around Annecy hosting Cross-country skiing and Biathlon
  • "Savoie" zone around Courchevel - La Plagne hosting Alpine skiing, Ski Jumping and Nordic Combines as well as Luge, Bob and Skeleton
  • "Briançon" zone around Briançon hosting Snowboard and Freestyle
  • "Nice-Côte d'Azur" zone around Nice hosting Curling, Short-track and Figure Skating, Hockey and Snowboard-Cross and Ski-cross as well as the IBC/MPC

Two options considered for Speed Skating: existing venue abroad or temporary venue in an exhibition centre.

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1 hour ago, cfm Jeremie said:

So the concept of "Alpes françaises 2030" has been unveiled today.

There will be 4 areas, each one served by an athletes village:

  • "Haute-Savoie" zone around Annecy hosting Cross-country skiing and Biathlon
  • "Savoie" zone around Courchevel - La Plagne hosting Alpine skiing, Ski Jumping and Nordic Combines as well as Luge, Bob and Skeleton
  • "Briançon" zone around Briançon hosting Snowboard and Freestyle
  • "Nice-Côte d'Azur" zone around Nice hosting Curling, Short-track and Figure Skating, Hockey and Snowboard-Cross and Ski-cross as well as the IBC/MPC

Two options considered for Speed Skating: existing venue abroad or temporary venue in an exhibition centre.

Makes sense for most part, but does Nice have enough indoor venues, or will they go for Cannes, Toulon etc? And where near Nice would the Cross events be? Why not all in Briançon?

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1 hour ago, StefanMUC said:

Makes sense for most part, but does Nice have enough indoor venues, or will they go for Cannes, Toulon etc? And where near Nice would the Cross events be? Why not all in Briançon?

Good questions.

The information are rather vague at this stage, in particular regarding the actual areas covered by the different zones...

Things are quite clear for Haute Savoie, where the events should be held at Le Grand Bornan, and Savoie, where Courchevel should host Alpine Skiing (as they did earlier this year during FIS World Championships) and Ski Jumping/Nordic Combined (as was the case during the Albertville 92 Games) and La Plagne all the sliding events.

For Nice, I imagine Cross events would take place in Isola 2000 (about 100km North of Nice). Not sure about the various Ice Arenas. 

Hopefully we will get more information by the time the EB selects one or more projects for the targeted dialogue?

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So would the bid be called Nice 2030 then? Cause French Alps, savoie, haute savoie, cote d'azure, & whatever else that they wanna stick in there, is just too long.

And was Grenoble (or even Lyon) not interested? Cause with that kind of Alpine venue plan, that would've made more sense than Nice. Or does Grenoble not have enough (modern) infrastructure, accommodations for a 21st Winter Olympics? Would've also been more picturesque IMO, ala Salzburg.

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2 minutes ago, FYI said:

So would the bid be called Nice 2030 then? Cause French Alps, savoie, haute savoie, cote d'azure, & whatever else that they wanna stick in there, is just too long.

And was Grenoble (or even Lyon) not interested? Cause with that kind of Alpine venue plan, that would've made more sense than Nice. Or does Grenoble not have enough (modern) infrastructure, accommodations for a 21st Winter Olympics? Would've also been more picturesque IMO, ala Salzburg.

The current name is "Alpes Françaises 2030".

I think one of the reasons Grenoble and Lyon are not included is that in both cities, the mayors are from green party and have expressed in the post their opposition to hosting big sporting events. 

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3 minutes ago, DamC said:

Nice doesn't have any suitable ice rink yet. So we'll have to wait and see what their actual plan is. There is a project for a new exhibition center near the airport. Maybe that could be used an indoor venue?

Uhmmm . . . Nice already hosted an ISU World Figure Skating championships in 2012.  So, Nice does have the credentials to host major ice events.  However, they may want a new arena to house Figure Skating/ Short-Trak speedskating.  

2012 World Figure Skating Championships - Wikipedia

Also, 

 

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36 minutes ago, baron-pierreIV said:

Uhmmm . . . Nice already hosted an ISU World Figure Skating championships in 2012.  So, Nice does have the credentials to host major ice events.  However, they may want a new arena to house Figure Skating/ Short-Trak speedskating.  

2012 World Figure Skating Championships - Wikipedia

That event was held at their convention center.  I imagine they'll need much if not all of that space for the media.  So using it as a main arena might not work out so well

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Wasn't expecting them to try to put everything ice based in Nice. Is it big enough? Even if Lyon doesn't want anything to do with it (I read they don't even want the 2024 torch relay which seems very silly), would Marseille have been better, it's certainly bigger...

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Clarification of earlier posting: patinoire = ice skating rink

From Eurosport.fr (https://www.eurosport.fr/jeux-olympiques/jo-2030-le-detail-de-la-candidature-de-la-france-avec-les-alpes-francaises_sto9874115/story.shtml) using google.translate:

Only one infrastructure would need to be built, the Nice ice rink which would host the ice events (hockey, curling, short-track and figure skating).

 

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candidature file (it is in french, but it has a map that's understandable):

dp_candidature_2030.pdf (franceolympique.com)

and here is the CNOSF press release (also in french so hopefully your browser also has a translate function):

THE FRENCH ALPS HAVE SUBMITTED THEIR BID FOR THE 2030 OLYMPIC AND PARALYMPIC GAMES TO THE IOC - (franceolympique.com)

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3 hours ago, Sigh said:

Clarification of earlier posting: patinoire = ice skating rink

From Eurosport.fr (https://www.eurosport.fr/jeux-olympiques/jo-2030-le-detail-de-la-candidature-de-la-france-avec-les-alpes-francaises_sto9874115/story.shtml) using google.translate:

Only one infrastructure would need to be built, the Nice ice rink which would host the ice events (hockey, curling, short-track and figure skating).

 

Technically they would need two ice arenas each with at least 10,000 seats which Nice does not need. It makes zero sense when Lyon is building a new 18,000 seat arena and you have the 12,000 Palais des Sports in Grenoble.

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4 minutes ago, stryker said:

Technically they would need two ice arenas each with at least 10,000 seats which Nice does not need. It makes zero sense when Lyon is building a new 18,000 seat arena and you have the 12,000 Palais des Sports in Grenoble.

As mentioned, if both the Lyon & Grenoble mayors are against hosting big sporting events, then it's a moot point (& their lose). But agreed, they would make the most sense otherwise, especially Grenoble. C'est la Vie. 

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6 minutes ago, FYI said:

As mentioned, if both the Lyon & Grenoble mayors are against hosting big sporting events, then it's a moot point (& their lose). But agreed, they would make the most sense otherwise, especially Grenoble. C'est la Vie. 

Ah I totally missed that about Grenoble and Lyon. Nonetheless this could very well get very expensive for Nice as I would assume as mentioned the exhibition hall would be needed as a media center. Speed skating at Oval Lingotto in Turin perhaps?

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Seems like this is all being made up as they go along.  That's a really dangerous game to play on a shortened timeline.  We're already seeing how that's working with Italy where they had 2 years worth of a lead-up to get everything in order.  Welcome to the new norm for Winter Olympics bidding!

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8 minutes ago, Roger87 said:

Quelle surprise... Wauquiez is so adamant in this project... I wonder why? (sarcasm if any case. Clue: Year 2027)

Can you win French Presidency on a pro-Olympic record? Seems not that good an argument these days, even if trying to appeal to national pride.

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6 minutes ago, StefanMUC said:

Can you win French Presidency on a pro-Olympic record? Seems not that good an argument these days, even if trying to appeal to national pride.

True, but considering how hard he had fallen even among the main elite group of his own party since 2020, I guess it's part of desperation to make headlines and having precisely that pro-Olympic record to be reckoned with the competition of his electoral profile in both fronts. 

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According to the media this morning, Opening Ceremony would be in Rhône-Alpes-Auvergne (the idea would be to pray tribute to the three hosts -Albertville, Grenoble and Chamonix- with the ceremony taking place in one of them and a link with the other two) and Closing Ceremony in Nice.

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According to a report in Le Parisien, the bid plan was changed up to the last minutes before the announcement in discussion with the IOC. The IOC convinced the bid committee to make the bid less spread out (apparently venues in Marseille and Gap were being considered).

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1 hour ago, DamC said:

According to a report in Le Parisien, the bid plan was changed up to the last minutes before the announcement in discussion with the IOC. The IOC convinced the bid committee to make the bid less spread out (apparently venues in Marseille and Gap were being considered).

Marseille has more logic if they want to keep the PACA region in the bid. There's le Grand Palais, le Palais de la Méditerranée and if possible expanding the omnisports Palace. Also, Marseille is more direct linked by TGV to Lyon and then Grenoble than Nice.

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