AustralianFan Posted November 12, 2025 Report Posted November 12, 2025 16 hours ago, Brisbane Boy said: As i mentioned in my previous post where are the workers going to come from to do Suncorp and everything else Crisafulli has mentioned Skills shortage threatens to stall Queensland’s construction future What i did not say is where are they going to live if we can get them, and how will that affect property and rental prices. This may have a political price to pay for the government Crisafulli may think there is enough infostructure money but there won't be unless he runs quite high deficits for the forceable future. He could tax his way out or drastically cut Public Service numbers but that would be political suicide. If he does either of those, he will be a 1 term Premier just like Newman. I doubt he has even run the figures on whether a Suncorp upgrade capacity and improvements will fit into the $7.1 billion venue budget that Suncorp will come under. Also, you won't get private investment or PPP+ for improvements to Suncorp or any other existing stadium. He has also stated he is not going to private investment or PPP's for both the Stadium and the New Olympic Pool The only PPP is slated for Brisbane Arena (Old GoPrint Site) and that is not included in the $7.1 billion venue budget, nor has any sport been allocated to that venue. Yes the skills and worker accommodation issues is something both the previous Labor and current LNP Governments were/are acutely aware of. I guess watch this space as to how/what the worker/skills recuitment strategy is addressed by the Queensland and Australian Governments. But be assured, it will be addressed. It should be noted that Brisbane 2032 is by no means not the first Olympic Games where worker/skills shortages were initially an issue before it was sorted out. It will be addressed and there will be workers in the ground to complete all the required projects. Re Suncorp Stadium, no doubt there is behind the scenes work being done by the Crisafulli Government as to how the expansion will be funded. Again watch this space for future announcements and updates as to how the Suncorp Stadium expansion comes together for the showpiece Olympic Football and Rugby Sevens competitions and future legacy connectivity and accessibility needs. Quote
AustralianFan Posted November 14, 2025 Report Posted November 14, 2025 On 11/11/2025 at 9:54 PM, Brisbane Boy said: As i mentioned in my previous post where are the workers going to come from to do Suncorp and everything else Crisafulli has mentioned Skills shortage threatens to stall Queensland’s construction future What i did not say is where are they going to live if we can get them, and how will that affect property and rental prices. This may have a political price to pay for the government Crisafulli may think there is enough infostructure money but there won't be unless he runs quite high deficits for the forceable future. He could tax his way out or drastically cut Public Service numbers but that would be political suicide. If he does either of those, he will be a 1 term Premier just like Newman. I doubt he has even run the figures on whether a Suncorp upgrade capacity and improvements will fit into the $7.1 billion venue budget that Suncorp will come under. Also, you won't get private investment or PPP+ for improvements to Suncorp or any other existing stadium. He has also stated he is not going to private investment or PPP's for both the Stadium and the New Olympic Pool The only PPP is slated for Brisbane Arena (Old GoPrint Site) and that is not included in the $7.1 billion venue budget, nor has any sport been allocated to that venue. On 11/12/2025 at 2:22 PM, AustralianFan said: Yes the skills and worker accommodation issues is something both the previous Labor and current LNP Governments were/are acutely aware of. I guess watch this space as to how/what the worker/skills recuitment strategy is addressed by the Queensland and Australian Governments. But be assured, it will be addressed. It should be noted that Brisbane 2032 is by no means not the first Olympic Games where worker/skills shortages were initially an issue before it was sorted out. It will be addressed and there will be workers in the ground to complete all the required projects. Re Suncorp Stadium, no doubt there is behind the scenes work being done by the Crisafulli Government as to how the expansion will be funded. Again watch this space for future announcements and updates as to how the Suncorp Stadium expansion comes together for the showpiece Olympic Football and Rugby Sevens competitions and future legacy connectivity and accessibility needs. Skilled Workers for Brisbane 2032 Infrastructure Projects In this AFR.com report by Zoe Zamos, the issue is discussed of getting enough skilled workers/resources to complete all the Brisbane 2032 infrastructure projects: Brisbane 2032 CEO Andrew Liveris: confident the necessary infrastructure will be ready for the opening ceremony despite broader industry concerns about a lack of skilled workers and resources to deliver it. “I’m now seeing the work streams very much mobilised, expressions of interest on all the venues.” “In the next six months will be fitting sport to venues.” “I’m very confident it’ll be done.” Jon Davies, Chief Executive of the Australian Constructors Association: ”We’ve got five years to build an Olympic stadium, two big indoor stadiums, the aquatic centre and the premier recently announced that he wants to expand Suncorp Stadium in five years”. there was a risk that major projects such as transport infrastructure, stadiums, and arenas would not be completed by deadline if there was not a major overhaul of the way the industry worked together”. “There was a risk to supply if the infrastructure sector didn’t develop a way to collaborate better and earlier.” “reducing the number of design reviews and the length of procurement processes were other ways to ensure all projects could meet their deadlines.” Australian Government agency Infrastructure Australia: “warned the nation could be grappling with a shortage of 300,000 by 2027”. Independent Sydney MP Zali Steggall (Winter Olympian): “skilled migration must be considered to mitigate some of the challenges with workforce shortages”. “all venues need to be ready at least one year in advance because of requirements from international federations for a pre-Olympic event to ensure venues were compliant and met the criteria of athletes”. “The Olympic village is really important,” she said. “You need the infrastructure and the housing to be so good you don’t notice it. If you notice it, there’s a problem, and it’s probably going to impact your performance.” Stephanie Graham, Managing Director of Construction at Lendlease: “getting contractors on board early was critical to completing on time.” “The earlier people can get in and plan for these things, the better it is for everyone.” Leah Kelly, Deputy Director General at the Queensland Department of Development, Infrastructure and Planning: “pointed to the government’s procurement policy, which had been reduced from 700 pages to 50”. 1 Quote
Brisbane Boy Posted November 14, 2025 Report Posted November 14, 2025 I want the Brisbane Olympics to go ahead without too many problems. The more you build the more likely you get problems be it delays, budget overruns and staff shortages or disputes. Also, Brisbane will have natural growth which it is struggling to cope with already. Politicians like to announce things without thinking it through and how much these ideas actually costs and how to pay for them. I am not too worried about the original 35 or so minor venues bar one being the Tennis Centre improvements. These venues are well underway and should be completed on time, but they still require workers until completed. They should stick to those 35 plus venues and the two major builds being the Stadium and Olympic Pool. Nothing else venue wise including the Suncorp proposed plans. Also remember $500 million is allocated to The Gabba to keep it standing for Cricket. This rarely gets mentioned. Building and funding the ones mentioned will be difficult enough. Just because Crisafulli says he has a plan, will not magically make it happen. Same with GIICA but at least they know what's required for an Olympics. We don't hear what's discussed behind closed doors at GIICA when politicians announce projects that were not being seriously considered before. I am sure a few f words would be thrown around. The things keeping Brisbane's Olympics boss up at night - Michael West 1 Quote
AustralianFan Posted November 14, 2025 Report Posted November 14, 2025 1 hour ago, Brisbane Boy said: I want the Brisbane Olympics to go ahead without too many problems. The more you build the more likely you get problems be it delays, budget overruns and staff shortages or disputes. Also, Brisbane will have natural growth which it is struggling to cope with already. Politicians like to announce things without thinking it through and how much these ideas actually costs and how to pay for them. I am not too worried about the original 35 or so minor venues bar one being the Tennis Centre improvements. These venues are well underway and should be completed on time, but they still require workers until completed. They should stick to those 35 plus venues and the two major builds being the Stadium and Olympic Pool. Nothing else venue wise including the Suncorp proposed plans. Also remember $500 million is allocated to The Gabba to keep it standing for Cricket. This rarely gets mentioned. Building and funding the ones mentioned will be difficult enough. Just because Crisafulli says he has a plan, will not magically make it happen. Same with GIICA but at least they know what's required for an Olympics. We don't hear what's discussed behind closed doors at GIICA when politicians announce projects that were not being seriously considered before. I am sure a few f words would be thrown around. The things keeping Brisbane's Olympics boss up at night - Michael West The Olympic Games create an imperative to get things done. Brisbane 2032 is no exception. It’s good with 7 years to go that all the stakeholders are recognising the workforce challenges even if it involves drafting in workers from interstate and overseas with accompanying accommodation solutions. I suspect that GIICA too will soon take on the Suncorp Stadium expansion once the public and/or private funding is locked in, given it is an Olympic venue. Quote
AustralianFan Posted November 19, 2025 Report Posted November 19, 2025 Temporary Overlay at Games Venues From the IOC Procurement Opportunities page is a swathe of EOIs (Expressions of Interest) are being called for to be official delivery partners at the Brisbane 2032 Games. One that caught my eye was the one seeking EOIs to be the Brisbane 2032 Organising Committee’s Overlay Delivery Partner at existing, new and temporary Venues. “The Overlay Delivery Partner will play a critical role in ensuring Games-time readiness through the coordinated delivery of temporary infrastructure that supports sport, operations, broadcast, workforce, and spectator experience.” This includes: “Development and management of overlay delivery strategies, delivery schedules, budgets, and risk frameworks across multiple venue types. “Coordination of site surveys, design, procurement, logistics, site set out, and construction activities for overlay elements including: Temporary structures (eg. Seating, tents, cabins, platforms, etc.) Power, lighting, HVAC, and water services Fencing, signage, wayfinding, and branding Accessibility and safety infrastructure. Site preparation works including: Ground clearing, levelling, grading, and compaction. Engagement and management of subcontractors and suppliers across multiple overlay packages. Integration of overlay works with base build infrastructure, venue operations, and Games-time functional requirements. Compliance with relevant Australian Standards, National Construction Code (NCC), and Games-specific technical specifications, with relevant building, safety, and accessibility standards, including WHS regulations, DDA requirements, and temporary structure codes. Delivery of test events, readiness exercises, and Games-time operational support. Decommissioning and site restoration post-Games, including asset recovery and sustainability reporting.” With 6.5 years to go, it makes for quite fascinating reading and begins to reveal the complexity to organise and deliver an Olympic and Paralympic Games. Quote
AustralianFan Posted December 11, 2025 Report Posted December 11, 2025 Land Secured for Tennis Venue Expansion The Queensland Government has issued a media release advising that: 2.3-hectares of land has been released for GIICA to expand Queensland Tennis Centre for the 2032 Olympic and Paralympic Games “The prime development site sits in the heart of a growing inner-south community, connected to the Queensland Tennis Centre, Brisbane River, and the newly upgraded Cross River Rail station”. Credit: Queensland Government Media Release Image credit: GIICA Quote
Victorian Posted December 16, 2025 Author Report Posted December 16, 2025 https://www.logan.qld.gov.au/about-council/media-releases/2025/Logan-City-Council-and-Griffith-University-sign-on-for-stadium Quote
AustralianFan Posted December 16, 2025 Report Posted December 16, 2025 Redland Whitewater Centre design search starts It’s encouraging that the pace is picking up now with various venues design EOIs starting to open up, including this one for the principal designers of the Redland Whitewater Centre, due to host canoe slalom events in 2032. The venue will have an 8,000 spectator capacity and will be located in the Birkdale Community Precinct. Credit: GIICA.au Quote
AustralianFan Posted December 19, 2025 Report Posted December 19, 2025 Global Consortium Named to Deliver Olympics Infrastructure From this link at Brisbane Development.com comes news that the Unite32 global infrastructure consortium has been named by the Queensland Government as a “delivery partner” in the Brisbane 2032 Venues Program. Accordiing to the report, the Unite32 consortium is headed by Laing O’Rourke and AECOM and who bring with them lots of experience in major sporting activities as well as past Olympic and Paralympic Games - which has to be a huge positive. Images Credit: Brisbane Development.com Quote
AustralianFan Posted December 19, 2025 Report Posted December 19, 2025 13 hours ago, AustralianFan said: Global Consortium Named to Deliver Olympics Infrastructure From this link at Brisbane Development.com comes news that the Unite32 global infrastructure consortium has been named by the Queensland Government as a “delivery partner” in the Brisbane 2032 Venues Program. Accordiing to the report, the Unite32 consortium is headed by Laing O’Rourke and AECOM and who bring with them lots of experience in major sporting activities as well as past Olympic and Paralympic Games - which has to be a huge positive. Images Credit: Brisbane Development.com The credits of the Unite32 consortium include the Olympic and Paralympic Games of: London 2012 Rio 2016 Paris 2024 LA 2028 Quote
myki Posted December 22, 2025 Report Posted December 22, 2025 On 12/12/2025 at 5:42 AM, AustralianFan said: Land Secured for Tennis Venue Expansion The Queensland Government has issued a media release advising that: 2.3-hectares of land has been released for GIICA to expand Queensland Tennis Centre for the 2032 Olympic and Paralympic Games “The prime development site sits in the heart of a growing inner-south community, connected to the Queensland Tennis Centre, Brisbane River, and the newly upgraded Cross River Rail station”. Credit: Queensland Government Media Release Image credit: GIICA I'm concerned about the usefulness of this expanded venue going forward. It doesn't get much love as it is, and there's only so many tennis tournaments that can be held around the world. This might have been the time to go "yeah we cant hold everything in Queensland, where could this be held", whether that be Melbourne (as was hinted) or somewhere else. 1 Quote
AustralianFan Posted December 23, 2025 Report Posted December 23, 2025 On 12/22/2025 at 12:31 PM, myki said: I'm concerned about the usefulness of this expanded venue going forward. It doesn't get much love as it is, and there's only so many tennis tournaments that can be held around the world. This might have been the time to go "yeah we cant hold everything in Queensland, where could this be held", whether that be Melbourne (as was hinted) or somewhere else. Currently, pre-expansion, the Queensland Tennis Centre annually hosts the Brisbane International 4-11 January and is also due to host in 2026 the ITF W75 Brisbane Tournament. Post-expansion, the QTC may also attract additional international tournaments, such as the United Cup which is currently played in both Sydney and Perth. The Queensland Tennis Centre also hosts various local/regional and adult tournaments through Tennis Australia and Tennis Queensland. And of course, the expanded Queensland Tennis Centre will host both the 2032 Olympic and Parapympic tennis competitions held in July-Aug and Aug-Sep, preceded by test events around 2031/2032. As far as Melbourne or even Sydney as alternate Games venues goes, both are in the middle of their cold, wet winters. So 2032 Games organisers have opted instead to keep the tennis competitions in the milder drier winter of Brisbane (Julu/August) and give the Queensland Tennis Centre lots of love by refreshing, expanding and updating all it’s facilities. So, with the South East Queensland having the fastest growing population growth in Australia, the future looks bright regarding legacy use of the 2032 Olympic and Paralympics tennis venue. Quote
Brisbane Boy Posted December 24, 2025 Report Posted December 24, 2025 On 12/23/2025 at 6:31 AM, myki said: I'm concerned about the usefulness of this expanded venue going forward. It doesn't get much love as it is, and there's only so many tennis tournaments that can be held around the world. This might have been the time to go "yeah we cant hold everything in Queensland, where could this be held", whether that be Melbourne (as was hinted) or somewhere else. Agree. It should but won't be moved to Melbourne. Saves on constructions costs and construction workers we likely won't be able to find along with volunteers not needed. Less pressure on housing all the other Olympic construction workers too. I don't think Melbourne is too cold for tennis as some have mentioned. They have 8 indoor courts to the 2 Brisbane will eventually have. Rod Laver Arena has two major events (we will call it that) each year. Prize money is small. Appearance fees likely the drawcard for the better players. As you mentioned how will it attract other players in greater standing at other times of the year. Players are mostly committed to other events around the world. Even in the short Australian season players choices before the Australian Open being, Brisbane, Perth. Sydney, Canberra, Adelaide, Hobart. Pat Rafter Arena does get used for other much smaller events but that just helps pay some bills. The venue will still get community use after the Olympics, but getting larger numbers than pre-Olympics is debatable. Austadiums don't even bother to put the crowd numbers up on their site like they do for most of their other venues. Even my Brisbane Lions AFLs women's venue at Brighton Homes Arena (way out at Ipswich) has crowd numbers listed. Pat Rafter Arena Crowds (Queensland Tennis Centre) | Austadiums Brighton Homes Arena Crowds (Springfield Central Stadium) | Austadiums Quote
AustralianFan Posted December 25, 2025 Report Posted December 25, 2025 16 hours ago, Brisbane Boy said: Agree. It should but won't be moved to Melbourne. Saves on constructions costs and construction workers we likely won't be able to find along with volunteers not needed. Less pressure on housing all the other Olympic construction workers too. I don't think Melbourne is too cold for tennis as some have mentioned. They have 8 indoor courts to the 2 Brisbane will eventually have. Volunteers and Olympic overlay would still be needed if the Olympic tennis competitions were held in Melbourne or Sydney. This is the Olympic Games. There are only three covered tennis venues with sufficient media/spectator seating and other hospitality facilities at Melbourne Park for the Olympics: Rod Laver Arena John Cain Arena, and Margaret Court Arena. But the big problem is that only 3 covered venues are clearly not enough tennis courts to handle the size of the Olympic tournament if there are rain delays which will happen in a Melbourne winter. The Olympic Tennis competitions consist of five separate medal competitions: Mens Singles Womens Singles Mens Doubles Womens Doubles Mixed Doubles This is why the Australian Open Grand Slam Tennis Tournament is played in the heat of summer, not in miserable, cold, wet Melbourne winter - and I live in Melbourne. The 2032 Olympic Games must finish on 8 August and Olympic Games cannot be extended to play catchup with multiple rain affected delayed matches. The expanded Queensland Tennis Centre will be able to handle all the matches in their covered and uncovered courts as part of the five 2032 Olympic Tennis competitions. Brisbane’s milder winter during the Games dates of 23 July - 8 August is drier than their wetter southern winter counterparts of Melbourne and Sydney. Quote
AustralianFan Posted December 25, 2025 Report Posted December 25, 2025 17 hours ago, Brisbane Boy said: Agree. It should but won't be moved to Melbourne. Saves on constructions costs and construction workers we likely won't be able to find along with volunteers not needed. Less pressure on housing all the other Olympic construction workers too. I don't think Melbourne is too cold for tennis as some have mentioned. They have 8 indoor courts to the 2 Brisbane will eventually have. 24 minutes ago, AustralianFan said: Volunteers and Olympic overlay would still be needed if the Olympic tennis competitions were held in Melbourne or Sydney. This is the Olympic Games. There are only three covered tennis venues with sufficient media/spectator seating and other hospitality facilities at Melbourne Park for the Olympics: Rod Laver Arena John Cain Arena, and Margaret Court Arena. But the big problem is that only 3 covered venues are clearly not enough tennis courts to handle the size of the Olympic tournament if there are rain delays which will happen in a Melbourne winter. The Olympic Tennis competitions consist of five separate medal competitions: Mens Singles Womens Singles Mens Doubles Womens Doubles Mixed Doubles This is why the Australian Open Grand Slam Tennis Tournament is played in the heat of summer, not in miserable, cold, wet Melbourne winter - and I live in Melbourne. The 2032 Olympic Games must finish on 8 August and Olympic Games cannot be extended to play catchup with multiple rain affected delayed matches. The expanded Queensland Tennis Centre will be able to handle all the matches in their covered and uncovered courts as part of the five 2032 Olympic Tennis competitions. Brisbane’s milder winter during the Games dates of 23 July - 8 August is drier than their wetter southern winter counterparts of Melbourne and Sydney. As an example, Paris 2024, the Paris 2024 Summer Olympic Games Tennis Competition was played at Roland Garros: competition commenced the day after the Opening Ceremony 172 competitors 18 Total Courts Required: 12 match courts + 6 training courts = 18 Competition venues seating capacity: Philippe-Chatrier Court 14,929 Suzanne-Lenglen Court 9,829 Simonne-Mathieu Court 5,264 Outside Courts 7,214 The Olympics feature single-elimination tournaments for each of the five competitions. Both men's and women's singles include 64 competitors, while the doubles' competitions each have 32 teams. Credit: Paris 2024 Olympic Tennis Competitions ESPN.com Quote
Brisbane Boy Posted December 26, 2025 Report Posted December 26, 2025 Australian Fan, volunteers would obviously need to be found in Melbourne and that will be very easy to do. That puts less strain on finding them in the Brisbane area. Not sure why you mentioned Roland Garros. You have not compared it to Brisbane as Brisbane is nowhere near a comparison to Roland Garros or Melbourne If athletes want to win a medal you just put up with the weather conditions, be they good or bad. I am sure swimming in the so-called clean River Seine and winning a medal was worth the inconvenience. Running the marathon in summer is what is usually required so the athletes run in summer, this time it's winter. It is defiantly colder in Melbourne during July & August but rainfall not that much difference. Rainfall Average: Melbourne - July 48mm, August 50mm, Total 98mm Rainfall Average: Brisbane - July 60mm, August 40mm. Total 100mm Temperature Average: Melbourne - July High 14, Low 6. - August High 15, Low 7 Temperature Average: Brisbane - July High 21, Low 9, - August High 22, Low 10 I don't see much temperature difference when you pack 15k into Rod Laver Arena (or the other 2) with the roof closed v Pat Rafter Arena 5k roof closed. That's 10k more of body heat in the stadium. Just an example. It's the Olympics so i expect the bigger indoor venues will sell out as usually the better players get to play their matches in them. .................................................................................. Melbourne would easily handle the tennis for the Olympics be it a fair bit colder than players are used to. Below your Roland Garros figures competition commenced the day after the Opening Ceremony 172 competitors 18 Total Courts Required: 12 match courts + 6 training courts = 18 Competition venues seating capacity: Philippe-Chatrier Court 14,929 Suzanne-Lenglen Court 9,829 Simonne-Mathieu Court 5,264 Outside Courts 7,214 The Olympics feature single-elimination tournaments for each of the five competitions. Both men's and women's singles include 64 competitors, while the doubles' competitions each have 32 teams. Melbourne Australian Open 258 competitors (128 men & 128 women). Total courts no idea but they have 33 hardcourts. Men's & Women's Singles Doubles and Mixed doubles. Rod Laver Arena 15,000 (roof if needed) John Cain Arena 10,300 (roof if needed) Margaret Court Arena 7,500 (roof if needed) So far that's a total of 32,800 under cover at any given time. Compare that to Brisbane's 8,000 and that's after a new 3,000 one is to be built. Melbourne has a much better chance to catch up on bad weather delays than Brisbane. There won't be heat delays at either city. Then we have Kia Arena 5,000 Full Spectator roof coverage Court 3 has 3,000 Full spectator roof coverage (located image) Court 2 has 3,000 Not much spectator coverage (image shows very limited cover but that may have changed) The above 6 courts total capacity is 43,800. Your total Roland Garros capacity quoted is only 37,236. Then there are the other 27 outside hard courts capacity i could not find a number for, Total capacity for Brisbane will be 13,500 and that's after they build a 3,000 venue and add 12 more outside courts with temporary seating. Melbourne AO management, staff, catering, ticketing etc all in place now, and they know what is required to run a very big tennis tournament beamed around the world, so enough media arears. Brisbane well not so much. Just the big difference in ticket sale revenue alone is enough to move it to Melbourne. Quote
AustralianFan Posted December 26, 2025 Report Posted December 26, 2025 9 hours ago, Brisbane Boy said: Australian Fan, volunteers would obviously need to be found in Melbourne and that will be very easy to do. That puts less strain on finding them in the Brisbane area. Not sure why you mentioned Roland Garros. You have not compared it to Brisbane as Brisbane is nowhere near a comparison to Roland Garros or Melbourne If athletes want to win a medal you just put up with the weather conditions, be they good or bad. I am sure swimming in the so-called clean River Seine and winning a medal was worth the inconvenience. Running the marathon in summer is what is usually required so the athletes run in summer, this time it's winter. It is defiantly colder in Melbourne during July & August but rainfall not that much difference. Rainfall Average: Melbourne - July 48mm, August 50mm, Total 98mm Rainfall Average: Brisbane - July 60mm, August 40mm. Total 100mm Temperature Average: Melbourne - July High 14, Low 6. - August High 15, Low 7 Temperature Average: Brisbane - July High 21, Low 9, - August High 22, Low 10 I don't see much temperature difference when you pack 15k into Rod Laver Arena (or the other 2) with the roof closed v Pat Rafter Arena 5k roof closed. That's 10k more of body heat in the stadium. Just an example. It's the Olympics so i expect the bigger indoor venues will sell out as usually the better players get to play their matches in them. .................................................................................. Melbourne would easily handle the tennis for the Olympics be it a fair bit colder than players are used to. Below your Roland Garros figures competition commenced the day after the Opening Ceremony 172 competitors 18 Total Courts Required: 12 match courts + 6 training courts = 18 Competition venues seating capacity: Philippe-Chatrier Court 14,929 Suzanne-Lenglen Court 9,829 Simonne-Mathieu Court 5,264 Outside Courts 7,214 The Olympics feature single-elimination tournaments for each of the five competitions. Both men's and women's singles include 64 competitors, while the doubles' competitions each have 32 teams. Melbourne Australian Open 258 competitors (128 men & 128 women). Total courts no idea but they have 33 hardcourts. Men's & Women's Singles Doubles and Mixed doubles. Rod Laver Arena 15,000 (roof if needed) John Cain Arena 10,300 (roof if needed) Margaret Court Arena 7,500 (roof if needed) So far that's a total of 32,800 under cover at any given time. Compare that to Brisbane's 8,000 and that's after a new 3,000 one is to be built. Melbourne has a much better chance to catch up on bad weather delays than Brisbane. There won't be heat delays at either city. Then we have Kia Arena 5,000 Full Spectator roof coverage Court 3 has 3,000 Full spectator roof coverage (located image) Court 2 has 3,000 Not much spectator coverage (image shows very limited cover but that may have changed) The above 6 courts total capacity is 43,800. Your total Roland Garros capacity quoted is only 37,236. Then there are the other 27 outside hard courts capacity i could not find a number for, Total capacity for Brisbane will be 13,500 and that's after they build a 3,000 venue and add 12 more outside courts with temporary seating. Melbourne AO management, staff, catering, ticketing etc all in place now, and they know what is required to run a very big tennis tournament beamed around the world, so enough media arears. Brisbane well not so much. Just the big difference in ticket sale revenue alone is enough to move it to Melbourne. You mentioned roof coverage at these three Melbourne courts. But these three have no roof over the court itself and if it rains, play will be suspended: Kia Arena, Courts 2 & 3. Melbourne has only three courts which have a roof over both the court and spectators and they are Rod Laver Arena, John Cain Arena and Margaret Court Arena. it’s now a mute point since QTC is locked in to host tennis at the Brisbane 2032 Games Volunteers On the topic of Volunteers, as well as from the host country they come from all over the world at each Olympic and Paralympic Games. For instance, when I travelled from Australia to work at Athens 2004, I shared a house with other volunteers from China, Italy and Spain. The same will occur at Brisbane 2032 when volunteers will stream in from all over the globe for the opportunity to work at an Olympic and Paralympic Games. Queensland Tennis Centre Locked In for 2032 Tennis Australia made the announcement in 2025 that funding had been secured for the expanded QTC, which then locked it in as the Brisbane 2032 Olympic and Paralympic tennis competition venue. Thankfully, seating capacity revenue is most certainly not deciding factor on where the Olympic and Paralympic tennis competitions tennis are hosted. Olympic and Paralympic Tennis Competition Organisers Now you raised the topic of ‘Australian Open organisers expertise in Melbourne versus Brisbane tennis organiers’ It is actually the ITF - International Tennis Federation who have for decades very successfully managed the Olympic and Paralympic tennis competitions. In cooperation with Tennis Australia, this occurred in 2000 at the newly constructed NSW Tennis Centre (which later became known as Ken Rosewall Arena) for the Sydney 2000 Olympic and Paralympic Games held in September. In cooperation with Tennis Australia, this will occur again in 2032 at the expanded Queensland Tennis Centre for the Brisbane 2032 Olympic and Paralympic Games. xx Image and below from Ausstadiums: The Queensland Tennis Centre will undergo a major expansion ahead of the 2032 Olympic Games, with more than three hectares of land unlocked to deliver a new world-class sports and residential precinct in Brisbane’s inner south. The redevelopment, announced by the Queensland Government as part of its 2032 Games Delivery Plan, includes a 2.3-hectare land allocation to expand the existing Tennyson-based centre, which already hosts the Brisbane International, the National Tennis Academy and various international events. Plans for the upgraded venue feature a new 3,000-seat roofed show court to compliment the existing 5,500-seat Pat Rafter Arena and 12 additional courts meeting International Tennis Federation standards. In addition to the sporting upgrades, a further one hectare of land in neighbouring Yeerongpilly will be released to the market for new housing and mixed-use development. The parcels are located in a high-growth area linked to the Queensland Tennis Centre, Brisbane River and the upgraded Cross River Rail station, positioning the site as a key Games legacy precinct. Quote
AustralianFan Posted December 26, 2025 Report Posted December 26, 2025 4 hours ago, AustralianFan said: You mentioned roof coverage at these three Melbourne courts. But these three have no roof over the court itself and if it rains, play will be suspended: Kia Arena, Courts 2 & 3. Melbourne has only three courts which have a roof over both the court and spectators and they are Rod Laver Arena, John Cain Arena and Margaret Court Arena. it’s now a mute point since QTC is locked in to host tennis at the Brisbane 2032 Games Volunteers On the topic of Volunteers, as well as from the host country they come from all over the world at each Olympic and Paralympic Games. For instance, when I travelled from Australia to work at Athens 2004, I shared a house with other volunteers from China, Italy and Spain. The same will occur at Brisbane 2032 when volunteers will stream in from all over the globe for the opportunity to work at an Olympic and Paralympic Games. Queensland Tennis Centre Locked In for 2032 Tennis Australia made the announcement in 2025 that funding had been secured for the expanded QTC, which then locked it in as the Brisbane 2032 Olympic and Paralympic tennis competition venue. Thankfully, seating capacity revenue is most certainly not deciding factor on where the Olympic and Paralympic tennis competitions tennis are hosted. Olympic and Paralympic Tennis Competition Organisers Now you raised the topic of ‘Australian Open organisers expertise in Melbourne versus Brisbane tennis organiers’ It is actually the ITF - International Tennis Federation who have for decades very successfully managed the Olympic and Paralympic tennis competitions. In cooperation with Tennis Australia, this occurred in 2000 at the newly constructed NSW Tennis Centre (which later became known as Ken Rosewall Arena) for the Sydney 2000 Olympic and Paralympic Games held in September. In cooperation with Tennis Australia, this will occur again in 2032 at the expanded Queensland Tennis Centre for the Brisbane 2032 Olympic and Paralympic Games. xx Image and below from Ausstadiums: The Queensland Tennis Centre will undergo a major expansion ahead of the 2032 Olympic Games, with more than three hectares of land unlocked to deliver a new world-class sports and residential precinct in Brisbane’s inner south. The redevelopment, announced by the Queensland Government as part of its 2032 Games Delivery Plan, includes a 2.3-hectare land allocation to expand the existing Tennyson-based centre, which already hosts the Brisbane International, the National Tennis Academy and various international events. Plans for the upgraded venue feature a new 3,000-seat roofed show court to compliment the existing 5,500-seat Pat Rafter Arena and 12 additional courts meeting International Tennis Federation standards. In addition to the sporting upgrades, a further one hectare of land in neighbouring Yeerongpilly will be released to the market for new housing and mixed-use development. The parcels are located in a high-growth area linked to the Queensland Tennis Centre, Brisbane River and the upgraded Cross River Rail station, positioning the site as a key Games legacy precinct. The GIICA website shows the timeline for the expanded Queensland Tennis Centre: 2026-2027 Design phase 2027-2028 Early works phase 2028-2029 Construction phase 2030 Commissioning phase 2031 Venue completion and handover 2031 *Test Event is expected to occur then 2032 Brisbane 2032 Olympic and Paralympic Games Quote
AustralianFan Posted December 27, 2025 Report Posted December 27, 2025 Brisbane Olympic Stadium Architects Shortlist Revealed The Courier Mail newspaper has revealed the shortlist of architects for Brisbane’s Olympic Stadium: Populous Herzog Demeuron (Switzerland) and Architectus Gerkan, Marg and Partners GMP (Germany) and Blight Rayner Warren and Mahoney (New Zealand) My money’s on Populous being selected as the Stadium architects. Outstanding track record and Olympic Games venues design experience. It helps too that they opened their Asia Pacific HQ offices in Brisbane four years ago in 2021. 1 Quote
Victorian Posted December 27, 2025 Author Report Posted December 27, 2025 8 hours ago, AustralianFan said: Brisbane Olympic Stadium Architects Shortlist Revealed The Courier Mail newspaper has revealed the shortlist of architects for Brisbane’s Olympic Stadium: Populous Herzog Demeuron (Switzerland) and Architectus Gerkan, Marg and Partners GMP (Germany) and Blight Rayner Warren and Mahoney (New Zealand) My money’s on Populous being selected as the Stadium architects. Outstanding track record and Olympic Games venues design experience. It helps too that they opened their Asia Pacific HQ offices in Brisbane four years ago in 2021. Hard to see Populous being overlooked. Have been the world leader in stadia globally and helps where they have designed previous Olympic stadiums before such as Sydney, London and Beijing. Worth a listen - Paul Henry from Populous 1 Quote
AustralianFan Posted December 28, 2025 Report Posted December 28, 2025 2 hours ago, Victorian said: Hard to see Populous being overlooked. Have been the world leader in stadia globally and helps where they have designed previous Olympic stadiums before such as Sydney, London and Beijing. Worth a listen - Paul Henry from Populous Brilliant thanks @Victorian, such an interesting podcast including the discussion on Olympic Stadia, transport connectivity, train stations, etc Quote
Brisbane Boy Posted December 28, 2025 Report Posted December 28, 2025 On 12/27/2025 at 4:54 AM, AustralianFan said: You mentioned roof coverage at these three Melbourne courts. But these three have no roof over the court itself and if it rains, play will be suspended: Kia Arena, Courts 2 & 3. Melbourne has only three courts which have a roof over both the court and spectators and they are Rod Laver Arena, John Cain Arena and Margaret Court Arena. it’s now a mute point since QTC is locked in to host tennis at the Brisbane 2032 Games Volunteers On the topic of Volunteers, as well as from the host country they come from all over the world at each Olympic and Paralympic Games. For instance, when I travelled from Australia to work at Athens 2004, I shared a house with other volunteers from China, Italy and Spain. The same will occur at Brisbane 2032 when volunteers will stream in from all over the globe for the opportunity to work at an Olympic and Paralympic Games. Queensland Tennis Centre Locked In for 2032 Tennis Australia made the announcement in 2025 that funding had been secured for the expanded QTC, which then locked it in as the Brisbane 2032 Olympic and Paralympic tennis competition venue. Thankfully, seating capacity revenue is most certainly not deciding factor on where the Olympic and Paralympic tennis competitions tennis are hosted. Olympic and Paralympic Tennis Competition Organisers Now you raised the topic of ‘Australian Open organisers expertise in Melbourne versus Brisbane tennis organiers’ It is actually the ITF - International Tennis Federation who have for decades very successfully managed the Olympic and Paralympic tennis competitions. In cooperation with Tennis Australia, this occurred in 2000 at the newly constructed NSW Tennis Centre (which later became known as Ken Rosewall Arena) for the Sydney 2000 Olympic and Paralympic Games held in September. In cooperation with Tennis Australia, this will occur again in 2032 at the expanded Queensland Tennis Centre for the Brisbane 2032 Olympic and Paralympic Games. xx Image and below from Ausstadiums: The Queensland Tennis Centre will undergo a major expansion ahead of the 2032 Olympic Games, with more than three hectares of land unlocked to deliver a new world-class sports and residential precinct in Brisbane’s inner south. The redevelopment, announced by the Queensland Government as part of its 2032 Games Delivery Plan, includes a 2.3-hectare land allocation to expand the existing Tennyson-based centre, which already hosts the Brisbane International, the National Tennis Academy and various international events. Plans for the upgraded venue feature a new 3,000-seat roofed show court to compliment the existing 5,500-seat Pat Rafter Arena and 12 additional courts meeting International Tennis Federation standards. In addition to the sporting upgrades, a further one hectare of land in neighbouring Yeerongpilly will be released to the market for new housing and mixed-use development. The parcels are located in a high-growth area linked to the Queensland Tennis Centre, Brisbane River and the upgraded Cross River Rail station, positioning the site as a key Games legacy precinct. We can agree to disagree on the city venue. It is not like i will get my way and it will be moved to Melbourne at this point in time anyhow. Let's see in a few years down the track. Liveris has previously stated it's not unusual for venues to change up to 6 months before the Olympics. However, it is like you don't read my recent comments correctly. I clearly stated 3 roofed stadiums capacity 32,800 to Brisbane's 8,000. That figure increases greatly when you get multiple games (sessions) each day and night. So, 2 sessions are 65,600 to 16,000. Over 8 days (Paris went to 9) that's 524,800 tickets/seats to 128,000 seating under the roof. That's a hell of a difference if bad weather strikes on the revenue side of things. On bad weather it is just 3 courts to 2 to make up games but still in Melbourne's favor. A google search indicated the Paris Olympic tennis prices as 24, 50, 260 & 420 euro. That's about AU $42, $87, $455 & $736 Just using the lower $87 price that's 524,800 x $87= $45,657,600 to 128,000 x $87 =$11,136,000 or $34.5 million more revenue only using the lower price. This is just the under-roof calculation and not the outer courts. At a guess the overall revenue difference is likely to be $80 plus million This alone is enough to move the event. I never mentioned the other 3 courts had a roof. I stated "spectator roof coverage" but unlike Brisbane they also have way more seats. These are the people who pay to attend at prices likely to be more than the above mentioned. They do count as the sun still shines in cities during the day. All Brisbane will have is temporary seating with limited or most likely no cover. You mentioned the ITF - International Tennis Federation run the tennis at the Olympics. That will be the Venues CEO and staff as usual. The ITF will not directly be involved in the actual running of the day-to-day operations of the venue as you indicated. They will obviously liaise with the venue CEO and staff. The ITF will work with the Organizing Committee to ensure all the tennis side of things are in place. That being, venue requirements for tennis, qualification & eligibility, entries and nominations, draw, rules and officiating, the referees and a large team of international technical officials, integrity (drug testing, anti-corruption). All those important issues and more. Volunteers may come from around the world, but Brisbane has a bed shortage of 32k (Liveris) and likely it won't improve much in 7 years as people migrate to Brisbane's SEQ corner from the southern states every single year. We can't keep up with the demand now. House and unit prices are now 2nd only to Sydney. Better that volunteers are spread out. That's my point. They won't all be sharing a house as you have done previously back in 2004 Athens. It's a forum so we all have differing views and i think apart from the weather difference, Melbourne has a far better chance of pulling off a great event than Brisbane and make way more money along the way. You come up with some good information and links which is great and i give you quite a few likes, but sorry you also continue to regurgitate already known information. Quote
AustralianFan Posted December 28, 2025 Report Posted December 28, 2025 2 hours ago, Brisbane Boy said: We can agree to disagree on the city venue. It is not like i will get my way and it will be moved to Melbourne at this point in time anyhow. Let's see in a few years down the track. Liveris has previously stated it's not unusual for venues to change up to 6 months before the Olympics. However, it is like you don't read my recent comments correctly. I clearly stated 3 roofed stadiums capacity 32,800 to Brisbane's 8,000. That figure increases greatly when you get multiple games (sessions) each day and night. So, 2 sessions are 65,600 to 16,000. Over 8 days (Paris went to 9) that's 524,800 tickets/seats to 128,000 seating under the roof. That's a hell of a difference if bad weather strikes on the revenue side of things. On bad weather it is just 3 courts to 2 to make up games but still in Melbourne's favor. A google search indicated the Paris Olympic tennis prices as 24, 50, 260 & 420 euro. That's about AU $42, $87, $455 & $736 Just using the lower $87 price that's 524,800 x $87= $45,657,600 to 128,000 x $87 =$11,136,000 or $34.5 million more revenue only using the lower price. This is just the under-roof calculation and not the outer courts. At a guess the overall revenue difference is likely to be $80 plus million This alone is enough to move the event. I never mentioned the other 3 courts had a roof. I stated "spectator roof coverage" but unlike Brisbane they also have way more seats. These are the people who pay to attend at prices likely to be more than the above mentioned. They do count as the sun still shines in cities during the day. All Brisbane will have is temporary seating with limited or most likely no cover. You mentioned the ITF - International Tennis Federation run the tennis at the Olympics. That will be the Venues CEO and staff as usual. The ITF will not directly be involved in the actual running of the day-to-day operations of the venue as you indicated. They will obviously liaise with the venue CEO and staff. The ITF will work with the Organizing Committee to ensure all the tennis side of things are in place. That being, venue requirements for tennis, qualification & eligibility, entries and nominations, draw, rules and officiating, the referees and a large team of international technical officials, integrity (drug testing, anti-corruption). All those important issues and more. Thank goodness good sense has prevailed and the fully funded, expanded Queensland Tennis Centre remains as the tennis competition venue for the Brisbane 2032 Olympic and Paralympic Games. As I said, thank goodness venue seating capacity is not the determining factor when determining where Olympic competition is held. The Brisbane 2032 tennis is no exception. The only person batting for tennis to be held in wintry cold Melbourne was a politician, Albanese. Prior to the QTC funding announcement, Tennis Australia said that the tennis could be likely be moved to Melbourne if the Queensland Tennis Centre was not upgraded. It is now history that QTC expansion is now funded and is locked in as the Games tennis venue. I note that Albanese has now gone very quiet on this the games venue funding of the QTC expansion was announced. When I said that the ITF manages the Olympic tennis competitions, that is absolutely correct. The actual five Olympic and Paralympic tennis competitions are run by ITF Chief Umpires, Match Referees and Chair Umpires. I never said venue managment was done by ITF, that is something else entirely. The venue, event staff, hospitality, security, etc is manged by the Host City organising committee Finally, the total seating capacity of all the Brisbane 2032 tennis competition courts, including outside courts, has not yet been announced. I expect that the final figure including outside courts will be more than the 16,400 total seating capacity of all the competition courts at the NSW Tennis Centre, (as it was known back then) which was built for the Sydney 2000 tennis competition. NSW Tennis Centre: Sydney 2000 tennis venue Image credit: Bvn.com.au Image credit: Wikimedia Queensland Tennis Centre: Brisbane 2032 tennis venue Image credit: GIICA Image credit: Ausstadiums.com xxxThank goodness good sense has prevailed and the fully funded, expanded Queensland Tennis Centre will remain as the tennis competition venue for the Brisbane 2032 Olympic and Paralympic Games. As I said, thank goodness venue seating capacity does not determine where Olympic competition is held. The Brisbane 2032 competition is no exception. The only person batting for tennis to be held in Melbourne was a politician, Albanese. Prior to the QTC funding announcement, Tennis Australia said that the tennis could be likely be moved to Melbourne if the Queensland Tennis Centre was not upgraded. It is now history that QTC expansion is now funded. QTC is locked in as the Games tennis venue. I note that Albanese has now gone very quiet on this now that the QTC expansion is fully funded and going ahead as the Games Venue. When I said that the ITF manages the Olympic tennis competitions, that is absolutely correct. The actual Olympic and Paralympic tennis competitions and the resulting medallists are run by ITF sanctioned Chief Umpires, Match Referees and Chair Umpires. The venue event staff, hospitality, security, etc is managed by the Host City organising committee Finally, the total seating capacity of all the Brisbane 2032 tennis competition including has not yet been announced. I expect that the final figure including outside courts (about 200 seats each) will be in the ballpark of about 16-18,000, similar to the Sydney 2000 tennis competition at the NSW Tennis Centre later renamed Ken Rosewall Arena). Quote
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Brisbane Boy Posted December 28, 2025 Report Posted December 28, 2025 1 hour ago, AustralianFan said: Thank goodness good sense has prevailed and the fully funded, expanded Queensland Tennis Centre remains as the tennis competition venue for the Brisbane 2032 Olympic and Paralympic Games. As I said, thank goodness venue seating capacity is not the determining factor when determining where Olympic competition is held. The Brisbane 2032 tennis is no exception. The only person batting for tennis to be held in wintry cold Melbourne was a politician, Albanese. Prior to the QTC funding announcement, Tennis Australia said that the tennis could be likely be moved to Melbourne if the Queensland Tennis Centre was not upgraded. It is now history that QTC expansion is now funded and is locked in as the Games tennis venue. I note that Albanese has now gone very quiet on this the games venue funding of the QTC expansion was announced. When I said that the ITF manages the Olympic tennis competitions, that is absolutely correct. The actual five Olympic and Paralympic tennis competitions are run by ITF Chief Umpires, Match Referees and Chair Umpires. I never said venue managment was done by ITF, that is something else entirely. The venue, event staff, hospitality, security, etc is manged by the Host City organising committee Finally, the total seating capacity of all the Brisbane 2032 tennis competition courts, including outside courts, has not yet been announced. I expect that the final figure including outside courts will be more than the 16,400 total seating capacity of all the competition courts at the NSW Tennis Centre, (as it was known back then) which was built for the Sydney 2000 tennis competition. NSW Tennis Centre: Sydney 2000 tennis venue Image credit: Bvn.com.au Image credit: Wikimedia Queensland Tennis Centre: Brisbane 2032 tennis venue Image credit: GIICA Image credit: Ausstadiums.com xxxThank goodness good sense has prevailed and the fully funded, expanded Queensland Tennis Centre will remain as the tennis competition venue for the Brisbane 2032 Olympic and Paralympic Games. As I said, thank goodness venue seating capacity does not determine where Olympic competition is held. The Brisbane 2032 competition is no exception. The only person batting for tennis to be held in Melbourne was a politician, Albanese. Prior to the QTC funding announcement, Tennis Australia said that the tennis could be likely be moved to Melbourne if the Queensland Tennis Centre was not upgraded. It is now history that QTC expansion is now funded. QTC is locked in as the Games tennis venue. I note that Albanese has now gone very quiet on this now that the QTC expansion is fully funded and going ahead as the Games Venue. When I said that the ITF manages the Olympic tennis competitions, that is absolutely correct. The actual Olympic and Paralympic tennis competitions and the resulting medallists are run by ITF sanctioned Chief Umpires, Match Referees and Chair Umpires. The venue event staff, hospitality, security, etc is managed by the Host City organising committee Finally, the total seating capacity of all the Brisbane 2032 tennis competition including has not yet been announced. I expect that the final figure including outside courts (about 200 seats each) will be in the ballpark of about 16-18,000, similar to the Sydney 2000 tennis competition at the NSW Tennis Centre later renamed Ken Rosewall Arena). Gee you're still getting some things wrong and still can't comprehend what i have mentioned. Just throwing some strange things back like- My comment: Melbourne AO management, staff, catering, ticketing etc all in place now, and they know what is required to run a very big tennis tournament beamed around the world, so enough media arears. Brisbane well not so much. Your 1st reply- Now you raised the topic of ‘Australian Open organisers expertise in Melbourne versus Brisbane tennis organiers.’It is actually the ITF - International Tennis Federation who have for decades very successfully managed the Olympic and Paralympic tennis competitions. *Your 2nd reply: "I never said venue managment was done by ITF, that is something else entirely. (I am pretty sure you did or certainly implied the ITF did.) .............................................................. Looks like you and the Government want less money ($80 plus million) along with hundreds of thousands of tennis fans to miss out on a major event. As another poster mentioned who will use the Brisbane venue as a legacy other than locals. Sure, it will enable them to accommodate more people in the 2 events they play each year. I doubt they let the locals play in the 2 main arenas at other times so just the extra outside courts. What i have pointed out on the tennis venue, is only part of why i want it moved to Melbourne. I have mentioned repeatedly that the Government will struggle to get things completed on time with an immoveable deadline. Now they are proposing to increase Suncorp's capacity by 10K with an enclosed roof. More construction, more workers required. I am really hoping for a successful Brisbane Olympics, but some very silly decisions have been made and being considered in my opinion. Much better than Labor though, who were hopeless on the big venues and budget, but still not much thought by the LNP into getting things completed on time in my opinion. Saying it will be on time does not make it so. I am happy with most of the minor venues (excluding tennis) and budget wise should come in okay, even with tennis. Apart from the above minor venues that are progressing well (under Labor) the Government should concentrate on just 3 venues within their Venue Budget: Brisbane Stadium and Victoria Park precinct, Brisbane Aquatic Centre and $500 million to keep The Gabba usable. Nothing else. Once procurement and contract approved just hand it over to GIICA. The LNP Government have enough other stuff outside the Venue Budget to worry about. Get a PPP for Brisbane Arena at Wooloongabba sorted. Other big developments being build multiple Athletes Villages, finish CRR, gold coast faster rail, lots of big money going into road infostructure on the Bruce Highway and the Coomera Connector (stage 1 now open). Finish the rail to Caloundra on time. Presently it is due after the Olympics. Scrap or not include the Caloundra to Maroochydore rail & Bus connection as i don't see that having a hope to finish in time. Find a way to fast track an additional 32K beds that's needed. That's a figure above the natural population increases in SEQ Then you have all the workers needed for all these projects. That's more than enough for an inexperienced State Governments to handle in 6.5 years. Quote
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