Brisbane 2032 Venues/Stadiums Thread

[AustralianFan]

14 minutes ago, Sir Rols said:

Still doesn’t invalidate criticisms of the overall plan, or suggestions it could have been done better.

No-one said it did.

 

[Sir Rols]

2 minutes ago, AustralianFan said:

No-one said it did.

 

Good, because while you may be happy to accept a sub-optimal plan so as not to disturb your narrative that the Brisbane strategy can’t be improved upon or changed, I’m happy to continue picking holes in them to suggest ways that Australia’s next games don’t let down our reputation.

[ulu]

15 hours ago, AustralianFan said:

You’re only two years late.  The IOC did just that 2 years ago.

I literally just spent several posts telling you the IOC’s note to Brisbane to consider using the existing Sydney venue was not taken up by Brisbane 203.

If you want to flog a dead horse, go right ahead.  But Brisbane have the Games and they are on course to build the Redlands Whitewater Centre within the large Birkdale Community Precinct.

 

is going ahead and will be a new venue 

The problem is you argue around the issues raised instead of addressing them directly and then claim you've addressed them.

[AustralianFan]

4 minutes ago, ulu said:

The problem is you argue around the issues raised instead of addressing them directly and then claim you've addressed them.

Really?

Do you have an example?

[Sir Rols]

9 minutes ago, AustralianFan said:

Really?

Do you have an example?

This whole thread is a great example. Numerous suggestions about problems with choosing the Redlands option, numerous suggestions of the benefits of opting for Penrith. The best response you can supply is “it’s already been decided, it’s pointless discussing”.

[AustralianFan]

6 minutes ago, ulu said:

The problem is you argue around the issues raised instead of addressing them directly and then claim you've addressed them.

 

Just now, AustralianFan said:

Really?

Do you have an example?

I have laid all the facts out on the table.

Some people don’t like facts.
I like facts.

I also don’t like to waste my breath on a venue decision that was done and dusted and water under the bridge from 2 years ago.

If people want to suddenly want to vent and rant now and try and get the Whitewater Canoe Slalom competition moved to Sydney, go right ahead, knock yourself out.

“The Suddenly Outraged”

This sudden outrage from a vocal minority here about the Brisbane’s new Whitewater venue is a bit bizarre really.

Seriously, it’s too late. But they can knock themselves out if it makes them feel better.

But I’m not about to waste my breathe with these sleepy keyboard warriors and their sudden outrage.

I’ll stick to the facts and keep reporting on what’s unfolding on the ground out in the real world, thankyou.

If I choose not to participate in a circular outdated argument that goes nowhere, then that’s my choice.

You choose what argument you engage in, as do I.

In this case, I choose to report on the progress of the Brisbane 2032 Whitewater Venue construction.

Thankyou, have a nice day.

[Sir Rols]

3 hours ago, AustralianFan said:

If I choose not to participate in a circular outdated argument that goes nowhere, then that’s my choice.

 

But you ARE participating - you continue to reply to EVERY post offering up negative opinions about Redlands. Usually, however, not addressing those criticisms and often just reposting posts you’ve already made. It comes across as wanting to shut down discussion on the topic, while not offering any refutation of points or concerns raised. It’s petty.

3 hours ago, AustralianFan said:

 

I have laid all the facts out on the table.

Some people don’t like facts.
I like facts.

 You’ve made it abundantly clear here and elsewhere on the board, you don’t handle opinion well. That is, addressing others’ opinions, or offering your own.

Which begs the question - what are you doing here then? This is a discussion board. It’s a forum for people with interest in the Olympics to come and share opinions about the games, likes and dislikes of various aspects of the games, posit scenarios and, yes, argue and debate. That’s what discussion boards like here or Skyscrapercity etc are designed for and good at. It’s not a reference site or personal blog.

Forums are not well suited to act as information galleries or fact boards. This is not the place you’d come to first to put your finger on any particular piece of factual data. News sites, or reference sites - like ITG, the news pages of this site, Olympics.com, theOlymnpicDesigndotcom, the Paris, LA or Brisbane official sites, even Wikipedia  etc - serve that role better. The trouble with trying to confine the threads of this forum to individual posts of factoids or infographics is that someone will always come along and offer a messy opinion on them - as the forum format is designed for them to do.   

To me, the most engaging threads are those where you can follow the to-and-fro of two or more people debating a range of opinions on a particular topic. Or playing devil’s advocate and picking apart bid plans, or official statements or putting other people’s opinions to the test. The least successful threads are those where nobody engages with them - they either get started and no-one replies, or only one person every posts in it. It just shows it’s not interesting anyone.

3 hours ago, AustralianFan said:

I also don’t like to waste my breath on a venue decision that was done and dusted and water under the bridge from 2 years ago.

If people want to suddenly want to vent and rant now and try and get the Whitewater Canoe Slalom competition moved to Sydney, go right ahead, knock yourself out.

And yet you continue to waste your breath by replying to every post, every “vent” and “rant”, about that decision. It comes across as trying to shut down or drown out any attempt to discuss it. So much for letting us “go right ahead” and knocking ourselves out.

Just because a decision has been made does not mean it’s no longer open for discussion or debate. There are ongoing and vibrant discussions ongoing right now in the Paris and LA threads about their respective venues, and the merits and shortcoming of their plans. Why is the same so difficult or pointless for Brisbane? Indeed, people still are attracted to and come to the board to offer opinions and arguments and debates on such done-and-dusted topics as the legacy of Rio, the merits of London’s OC or the ongoing legacy of the 2012 stadium, alternative scenarios for Sydney’s venue plan or whether Atlanta sucked or not (I say not).

3 hours ago, AustralianFan said:

“The Suddenly Outraged”

This sudden outrage from a vocal minority here about the Brisbane’s new Whitewater venue is a bit bizarre really.

Seriously, it’s too late. But they can knock themselves out if it makes them feel better.

That’s textbook gaslighting.

This is all coming less than a week following the finalisation of funding arrangements for the games and its venue plan between the Qld and Federal governments. So it’s highly topical. And it’s put a spotlight on those plans and their costs. If there’s any life on the board, of course it’s exactly this time when it will spark discussions and opinions. Far from bizarre, it’s exactly the time such concerns spark up. And do you seriously expect those opinions are all going to be unanimous or favourable?  

For myself, I’d only been peripherally following Brisbane’s venue planning. Then last week’s funding announcements happened and I looked more closely at it. Redland’s I particularly noted, remembering how the IOC had offered up Penrith as an alternative. It was on my mind. Then you posted on Redland’s on this thread a few days ago. As it was an issue I’d been so recently thinking about, I responded. And so the topic flared.

Just as its everybody’s right to come in here and criticise aspects of the Olympics or particular games and their plans, of course it’s your right to defend those points. So go ahead and DEFEND. Refute criticisms, preferably with some reasoned rebuttals, rather than trying to shut them down by repeat postings that don’t address the points raised, or saying discussion is not worth engaging in, while all the time engaging with it. I respect contrary opinions. I can have vehement and hotly contested debates here with others, like @baron-pierreIV or @FYI, and still be on friendly and respectful terms with them. You and I obviously have issues with each other, but I’d respect you more if you could mount reasoned counter-arguments. What I don’t respect is stonewalling or trying to “cancel” or delegitimise criticisms.

 

Edited February 22, 2023 by Sir Rols

[Sir Rols]

How topical…

AOC excited for multi-million upgrade plans for Penrith Whitewater Stadium

And all funded by NSW

[AustralianFan]

Anna Meares Velodrome

• Track Cycling, BMX Racing
• existing venue
• opened 2016
• games capacity:  5,000
• 16kms south of Athletes Village

[AustralianFan]

12 hours ago, Sir Rols said:

 

AOC excited for multi-million upgrade plans for Penrith Whitewater Stadium

 

This upgrade will be a vital refresh of this venue in the build-up to the 2025 Canoe Slalom World Championships at Penrith Whitewater Stadium.  The World Championships are being held 25 years since the Sydney 2000 competition was triumphantly held there.

The Penrith Whitewater Stadium venue will also serve as a vital training venue in addition to the Redlands Whitewater Centre in the lead-up to the Brisbane 2032 Olympic and Paralympic Games.

[TorchbearerSydney]

So much hyper ventilating over Brisbane venues-

1. No Games (and their venues) are identical to their Bid documents. Things change.

2. Brisbane 2032 was announced 10 years before the Games. Paris didn't even have its swimming venue decided three years out. Things change.

 

 

[Sir Rols]

3 minutes ago, TorchbearerSydney said:

So much hyper ventilating over Brisbane venues-

1. No Games (and their venues) are identical to their Bid documents. Things change.

2. Brisbane 2032 was announced 10 years before the Games. Paris didn't even have its swimming venue decided three years out. Things change.

 

 

Exactly. Thank you!

[FYI]

On 2/21/2023 at 4:48 PM, Sir Rols said:

The irony is, as soon as any tweaks are made to the “set in stone” venues plan (which is highly likely, as in any games plan), you’re going to be the first to run on here and gush on what a brilliant move that was.

Sigh… we’re going to have to put up with nine years of this hyper-defensive gatekeeping trolling. At least we’ve established that your devotion to the ideals of the “New Norm” only extends as far as it doesn’t conflict with the pristine reputation of Brisbane’s perfect plans.

Lol, reminds me of the L.A. (2024) 2028 trollbies that everything L.A. does will be "wonderful" & can do no wrong, no matter what they proposed, did or changed, & every other host is terrible & in the wrong. 

At least they got shoved to the curb in the end. If only that could be the case here, too, cause yeah, nine more years of the 'Brisbane 2032 is incredible in the universe of everything Olympic' has already gotten tiring. 

On 2/21/2023 at 11:01 PM, Sir Rols said:

You’ve made it abundantly clear here and elsewhere on the board, you don’t handle opinion well. That is, addressing others’ opinions, or offering your own.

**Which begs the question - what are you doing here then?** This is a discussion board. It’s a forum for people with interest in the Olympics to come and share opinions about the games, likes and dislikes of various aspects of the games, posit scenarios and, yes, argue and debate. That’s what discussion boards like here or Skyscrapercity etc are designed for and good at. **It’s not a reference site or personal blog.**

I've asked myself that question long before, when all this B.S. started. And the only answer is that's exactly how they want to treat this site. They want to use it as their own personal Brisbane 2032 newsfeeder, ala twitter, reddit, etc. And forget about other's opinions. They don't matter to them (all too evident in that ridiculous video they posted a month or so back in their "what's behind that keyboard" thread).

That's been their M.O. since day one here, though. But if I want bid/host info, I'll go to those respective websites; ITG, Olympics.org, ATR, or host city 20xx, etc. Not here. If I want to debate all things Olympics, then I come here. If I want to read someone's personal blog, I'll go to it. But GB's certainly isn't the place for that, but such an aspect is obviously totally foreign to them since their obsession to try & "control" these boards just won't let them figure that out.

[Chris_Mex]

2 hours ago, FYI said:

Lol, reminds me of the L.A. (2024) 2028 trollbies that everything L.A. does will be "wonderful" & can do no wrong, no matter what they proposed, did or changed, & every other host is terrible & in the wrong. 

At least they got shoved to the curb in the end. If only that could be the case here, too, cause yeah, nine more years of the 'Brisbane 2032 is incredible in the universe of everything Olympic' has already gotten tiring. 

I've asked myself that question long before, when all this B.S. started. And the only answer is that's exactly how they want to treat this site. They want to use it as their own personal Brisbane 2032 newsfeeder, ala twitter, reddit, etc. And forget about other's opinions. They don't matter to them (all too evident in that ridiculous video they posted a month or so back in their "what's behind that keyboard" thread).

That's been their M.O. since day one here, though. But if I want bid/host info, I'll go to those respective websites; ITG, Olympics.org, ATR, or host city 20xx, etc. Not here. If I want to debate all things Olympics, then I come here. If I want to read someone's personal blog, I'll go to it. But GB's certainly isn't the place for that, but such an aspect is obviously totally foreign to them since their obsession to try & "control" these boards just won't let them figure that out.

The point is that the good old bidding format, the reason this forum was created, ceased to exist. So now we have to conform by adressing on how well a bid / OGOC is performing their task to organize this complex event. By this logic and adding theres plenty of aussies in this canadian site for any reason IDC, there's 3 active threads, this forum lead by an australian troll thinking we care about janitors toilet suppliers in 2032, the victoria 2026 forum (which isn't even an olympic event) that for some reason aussies think is relevant for anyone outside of australia. And the ban russia thread (again, so related to olympic bids) which at this point should be renamed "let's hate russia". The only interesting threads are the 2030 related ones, which are now in a bucle of "winter olympics are dead" and the 2036 threads which again are in a biased bucle of "olympics shouldn't get out of anglosphere"

[ulu]

2 hours ago, FYI said:

Lol, reminds me of the L.A. (2024) 2028 trollbies that everything L.A. does will be "wonderful" & can do no wrong, no matter what they proposed, did or changed, & every other host is terrible & in the wrong. 

At least they got shoved to the curb in the end. If only that could be the case here, too, cause yeah, nine more years of the 'Brisbane 2032 is incredible in the universe of everything Olympic' has already gotten tiring. 

I've asked myself that question long before, when all this B.S. started. And the only answer is that's exactly how they want to treat this site. They want to use it as their own personal Brisbane 2032 newsfeeder, ala twitter, reddit, etc. And forget about other's opinions. They don't matter to them (all too evident in that ridiculous video they posted a month or so back in their "what's behind that keyboard" thread).

That's been their M.O. since day one here, though. But if I want bid/host info, I'll go to those respective websites; ITG, Olympics.org, ATR, or host city 20xx, etc. Not here. If I want to debate all things Olympics, then I come here. If I want to read someone's personal blog, I'll go to it. But GB's certainly isn't the place for that, but such an aspect is obviously totally foreign to them since their obsession to try & "control" these boards just won't let them figure that out.

To be fair I don't mind new information being posted here but it gets tiresome when it's the same thing from multiple different sources or just straight up old news.

 

[AustralianFan]

 

Brisbane Showgrounds

• Equestrian / Show Jumping
• existing venue
• games capacity:  15,000
• 5.4 kms west of Athletes Village
• “The Royal National Agricultural and Industrial Association of Queensland (RNA), which owns and operates the Brisbane Showgrounds announced that the 100-year old main arena, which houses the heritage-listed grandstands, will go through some upgrades and significant design work to make it suitable for the Olympics or Paralympics”            (Credit:  winstongrangenews.com.au )

Credit: eqlifemag.com.au

 

 

 

[FYI]

2 hours ago, Chris_Mex said:

The point is that the good old bidding format, the reason this forum was created, ceased to exist. So now we have to conform by adressing on how well a bid / OGOC is performing their task to organize this complex event. 

The extravaganza of the old bidding system is gone, but bidding itself, per se, isn't necessarily over. Because we're still talking about different cities that are interested in the still yet to be decided upon 2030 cycle, like Salt Lake, Vancouver, Sapporo (I know, they're on "pause" for now, but we were still talking about them, even as of recently just a few months ago), & now the latest interested city of Stockholm. And of course, who can forget that "crowded field of interested parties" for the 2036 Olympic Games! 

2 hours ago, ulu said:

To be fair I don't mind new information being posted here but it gets tiresome when it's the same thing from multiple different sources or just straight up old news.

Of course new info is always welcomed, but only when it's really relevant. A lot of times, though, I find the info that gets posted by a certain poster(s), is not only redundant, but also mundane in many cases.

Like I'm sure Long Beach residents might appreciate their shoreline improvement, but it's hardly exciting Olympic news, & if I really want to know more about it, I can just go directly to the source. And of course all the excessive, tedious pictures having to load up in many of those posts, that it seems like you're more on a travel website than a discussion board.

Or like do we really need to be told to "check out this story" about Vancouver in four different threads telling us where to "check it out". Or "teaching/lecturing us" all about the new-norm in the "NN library" because they think they need to do that because not everyone here shares their holier-than-thou vision of the new-norm as they do? And when someone doesn't agree, watch out for the tongue-lashing that follows. 

Besides, I find that the newswire section of this website does pretty well in filling us in on Olympic news when necessary & pertinent. And even then, a certain poster can't seem to help themselves in reposting that same piece of info all over the place on the boards, as they seem to think that by doing so, in their mind, they're providing some kind of public service because the rest of us here are obviously too dense to click on the original stories for ourselves. It's all really very odd, narcissistic behavior I haven't really seen exercised by anyone else here before (not in this extensive manner anyway). And that list over the years is quite vast, to say the least. 

[AustralianFan]

Ipswich Stadium

• Modern Pentathlon
• new venue
• games capacity:  10,000
• 37 kms south west of Athletes Village
• with equestrian being dropped from this event and being replaced by an obstacle discipline (work-in-progress by UIPM - Union Internationale de Pentathlon Moderne)

 

[AustralianFan]

On 2/22/2023 at 5:50 PM, Sir Rols said:

AOC excited for multi-million upgrade plans for Penrith Whitewater Stadium

On 2/23/2023 at 6:30 AM, AustralianFan said:

This upgrade will be a vital refresh of this venue in the build-up to the 2025 Canoe Slalom World Championships at Penrith Whitewater Stadium.  The World Championships are being held 25 years since the Sydney 2000 competition was triumphantly held there.

The Penrith Whitewater Stadium venue will also serve as a vital training venue in addition to the Redlands Whitewater Centre in the lead-up to the Brisbane 2032 Olympic and Paralympic Games.

Partnership between Australia’s Two Whitewater Centres

Redland City Council, operator of Australia’s second Whitewater Venue being constructed within the large Birkdale Community Precinct for the Brisbane’s 2032 Olympics and Paralympics and beyond, has welcomed the NSW State Government’s announcement of a $3.1 million investment to upgrade the Penrith Whitewater Stadium in preparation for the 2025 Canoe Slalom World Championships: >>

“Council welcomes investment in whitewater centre upgrade”

“Redland City Mayor Karen Williams said the two Councils were working together to ensure both the existing Penrith facility and the new Birkdale venue being delivered for the Brisbane 2032 Games were first class and continued to deliver legacies for their respective communities.”

“We know the best way to deliver a first-class facility is to learn from others and our partnership with Penrith focuses on sharing information to ensure our Birkdale facility is not only used by tomorrow’s Olympic champions, but also delivers a lasting legacy for local families and businesses,” Cr Williams said.

“Yesterday’s announcement by the NSW State Government will allow us to work with Penrith as part of their upgrades and use that information to ensure the Birkdale venue is the best it can be.”

“We have been working with Penrith City Council and Paddle Australia since last year as part of our plans for the Birkdale facility and, on behalf of the community, I congratulate them, the NSW Government and International Canoe Federation on yesterday’s announcement.”

“I will be writing to Penrith following yesterday’s announcement to not only congratulate them, but more importantly to arrange a discussion in the near future so we can start exchanging information as well as exploring training opportunities that will deliver significant tourism and economic benefits to both cities.

“It is exciting that we are working together to see two world-class Australian whitewater facilities come to fruition within the next decade, providing unrivalled opportunities for accessibility to this sport for all ages and abilities, including staging of elite competition, in the lead up to the Brisbane 2032 Olympic and Paralympic Games.”

Credit: Council welcomes investment in whitewater centre upgrade - Redland City Council - 22 Feb 2023

 

[AustralianFan]

On 2/23/2023 at 6:30 AM, AustralianFan said:

This upgrade will be a vital refresh of this venue in the build-up to the 2025 Canoe Slalom World Championships at Penrith Whitewater Stadium.  The World Championships are being held 25 years since the Sydney 2000 competition was triumphantly held there.

The Penrith Whitewater Stadium venue will also serve as a vital training venue in addition to the Redlands Whitewater Centre in the lead-up to the Brisbane 2032 Olympic and Paralympic Games.

 

2 minutes ago, AustralianFan said:

Partnership between Australia’s Two Whitewater Centres

Redland City Council, operator of Australia’s second Whitewater Venue being constructed within the large Birkdale Community Precinct for the Brisbane’s 2032 Olympics and Paralympics and beyond, has welcomed the NSW State Government’s announcement of a $3.1 million investment to upgrade the Penrith Whitewater Stadium in preparation for the 2025 Canoe Slalom World Championships: >>

“Council welcomes investment in whitewater centre upgrade”

“Redland City Mayor Karen Williams said the two Councils were working together to ensure both the existing Penrith facility and the new Birkdale venue being delivered for the Brisbane 2032 Games were first class and continued to deliver legacies for their respective communities.”

“We know the best way to deliver a first-class facility is to learn from others and our partnership with Penrith focuses on sharing information to ensure our Birkdale facility is not only used by tomorrow’s Olympic champions, but also delivers a lasting legacy for local families and businesses,” Cr Williams said.

“Yesterday’s announcement by the NSW State Government will allow us to work with Penrith as part of their upgrades and use that information to ensure the Birkdale venue is the best it can be.”

“We have been working with Penrith City Council and Paddle Australia since last year as part of our plans for the Birkdale facility and, on behalf of the community, I congratulate them, the NSW Government and International Canoe Federation on yesterday’s announcement.”

“I will be writing to Penrith following yesterday’s announcement to not only congratulate them, but more importantly to arrange a discussion in the near future so we can start exchanging information as well as exploring training opportunities that will deliver significant tourism and economic benefits to both cities.

“It is exciting that we are working together to see two world-class Australian whitewater facilities come to fruition within the next decade, providing unrivalled opportunities for accessibility to this sport for all ages and abilities, including staging of elite competition, in the lead up to the Brisbane 2032 Olympic and Paralympic Games.”

Credit: Council welcomes investment in whitewater centre upgrade - Redland City Council - 22 Feb 2023

 

Paddle Australia Support of Two Slalom Venues in Australia

“Paddle Australia CEO, Phil Jones, said today’s announcement for the Redlands Coast 2032 Legacy Working Group is showcasing already how communities are looking at the lasting legacy that Brisbane 2032 will create for not only sport, but the broader community. “

“The great opportunity with having Brisbane 2032 secured as part of a 10 year runway, is that facilities like the Canoe Slalom whitewater stadium will be completed in the next three to four years which means there will be huge opportunities to host international athletes as well offer Australian athletes the chance to train and enjoy Olympic level venues. 

“The venue that Redland City Council has unveiled, as part of the Birkdale Community Precinct, is about creating a meaningful legacy. The Olympic venue will be one of seven hubs, connecting the local community to the Olympic journey. 

“By having another Slalom venue here in Redland City Council, it will double the facilities in Australia meaning people who want to try slalom paddling will have a greater opportunity to do so, meaning more people giving our sport a go,” said Jones.”

Credit: Brisbane 2032 Olympic Canoe Slalom venue to form part of Redlands Coast legacy for local community - Paddle Australia - 4 May 2022

[AustralianFan]

24 February 2023

International Canoe Federation:  

• “A Boost For The Sport in the Asia Pacific Region”
• “Excitement Builds Over Redlands Slalom Venue”

“A potential new canoe slalom venue earmarked for the Olympic Games Brisbane 2032 will provide a major boost for the sport in the region and an exciting facility for the local community for decades after the Olympics, International Canoe President Thomas Konietzko said.”

“Mr Konietzko, ICF vice-president Lluis Rabaneda and ICF Secretary General Richard Pettit were among a delegation who visited the potential slalom site in Redlands, south of Brisbane, and were impressed by plans for the venue.”

“The ICF leadership team were provided a briefing on plans for the venue by Redlands Mayor, Karen Williams.”

“We came away from these discussions impressed by what Mayor Williams and her team envisage for this venue,” Mr Konietzko said.”

“It is clear that not only will this be a first-class canoe slalom venue, but it will embrace the latest cutting-edge technology to ensure a minimal carbon footprint. And it will also be designed with an eye to the future, providing the local community with a facility for relaxation and recreational opportunities for decades to come.”

“Mr Konietzko said a new venue in Redlands will also have major benefits for the Asia Pacific region.”

“Already in this part of the world we have three former canoe slalom Olympic venues, plus several first-class courses in countries like New Zealand and Thailand,” Mr Konietzko said.”

“Redlands will slot neatly into this group, strengthening the claims of the Asia Pacific to be a global centre for our sport. The exceptional Queensland climate will make Redlands very attractive as a training and competition venue both before and after Brisbane 2032.”

“Discussions have already commenced with local fire services and swift water rescue groups about potential opportunities for using the whitewater venue for training, and Cr Williams said there were many more potential partnerships.”

“We are committed to working together in planning for a whitewater centre that will be part of a broader resilience training centre to cater for resilience and emergency rescue training, high-performance racing and recreation purposes in the lead up to the Brisbane 2032 Olympic and Paralympic Games and beyond,” Cr Williams said.”

“One of the key learnings from my recent fact-finding trip to the United States, which included visiting the National Whitewater Centre in North Carolina, is the importance of partnerships. Whitewater centres are best developed in partnership with others and are best used for a range of additional activities, for example, emergency rescue training.”

“The North Carolina centre is the most profitable whitewater facility in the world, offering training for whitewater rafting, kayaking, canoeing, rock climbing, mountain biking and hiking.”

“The Redland Whitewater Centre at Birkdale will follow this example and will be located within a precinct that will include Redlands Coast’s first public swimming lagoon, outdoor concert areas, bush tucker gardens, bush trails and walks, and a running and cycling loop circuit.”

“The precinct will deliver plenty of fun activities for families while earning an international reputation for emergency training and high adrenaline water sports.”

“The visit to Queensland capped of a week of high-level meetings in Australia for the ICF leadership team, which include a visit to Penrith Whitewater Stadium, the venue for canoe slalom at the Sydney Olympics and the host for the 2025 ICF Canoe Slalom and Kayak Cross World Championships.”

“It has been a very successful week for all of us, and an opportunity to remind ourselves how important a well planned and well managed Olympic venue can be for a local community,” Mr Rabaneda said.”

“What we saw in Penrith, and what we heard and saw planned for Brisbane, gives us confidence that the future of canoe slalom and kayak cross in this region is in good hands. We also received a briefing on options for a canoe sprint venue in Brisbane, which has lots of exciting possibilities.”

Credit: Excitement builds over Redlands Slalom Venue - International Canoe Federation - 24 Feb 2023

[AustralianFan]

This concept images shows the link between the adventure park, ziplines, Public  Swimming lagoon and the adjacent Redlands Whitewater Venue, within the Birkdale Community Precinct:

“Recent torrential rain and flooding across Queensland has shown the benefits of the proposed Redland Whitewater Centre being used for swift-water rescue training.”

“Redland City Mayor Karen Williams said Council was planning for the whitewater centre, which will be the venue for Canoe Slalom events during the Brisbane 2032 Olympic and Paralympic Games, to also deliver important emergency services training.”

“We have all seen vision of the recent flooding and swift-water rescues in the news and I take my hat off to the brave men and women from our emergency services agencies who are out there helping our community,” Cr Williams said.

“Currently there are limited training facilities in Queensland to hone these swift-water rescue skills, opening the door for the Redland Whitewater Centre to be home to an emergency services and swift-water rescue training program.”

“Basing this sort of training at the Redlands Coast venue will not only deliver important emergency services capabilities, it will also provide ongoing economic benefits.”

Credit:  Redland Whitewater Centre ideal for swift-water rescue training - Redland City Council - May 13 2022

[Sir Rols]

13 hours ago, Chris_Mex said:

The point is that the good old bidding format, the reason this forum was created, ceased to exist. So now we have to conform by adressing on how well a bid / OGOC is performing their task to organize this complex event. By this logic and adding theres plenty of aussies in this canadian site for any reason IDC, there's 3 active threads, this forum lead by an australian troll thinking we care about janitors toilet suppliers in 2032, the victoria 2026 forum (which isn't even an olympic event) that for some reason aussies think is relevant for anyone outside of australia. And the ban russia thread (again, so related to olympic bids) which at this point should be renamed "let's hate russia". The only interesting threads are the 2030 related ones, which are now in a bucle of "winter olympics are dead" and the 2036 threads which again are in a biased bucle of "olympics shouldn't get out of anglosphere"

The site might have been originally created to follow bids (or actually, created for one particular bid - Toronto’s bid for 2008), but that soon became only part of the activity on this site. It’s long attracted general Olympic fans, and long branched out to discuss all aspects of the Olympics - lots of general threads speculating on future hosts, hypothetical bid plans, ceremonies, logos, music, stadiums and, yes, spotlights on upcoming chosen hosts (why do you think these get their own dedicated sub forums with specific sections for ticketing, ceremonies, sports etc? Paris’ and LA’s ARE active, and will only get more and more active as those games approach). Not to mention member-generated contests and sweeps and swapping jokes etc. And then there’s interest in other sports events - World Cups, Universiades and, yes, Commonwealth Games. Personally, I’m not interested or enthused by Victoria 2026 -  I rarely look in or participate in that thread. But if it excites some people, good for them, and at least they’re confining their discussions to one thread and not disrupting others across the board.

You’re right, bidding itself isn’t what it used to be. There’s not as much information and campaigning now happening in the public eye to follow and analyse. But there’s still bids going on, these are still being followed here, and every news item that surfaces about them still gets dissected, discussed and debated here.

And as for Russia? The members aren’t the ones driving that issue. Whether you like it or not, the Russia issue is THE MAJOR international sports issue preoccupying the Olympic movement, world sports federations and world governments at the moment and in particular in the lead up to Paris. It’s natural that members here have opinions on it and express them here. You’re welcome to, and do, post your thoughts on it. Why is it a problem if your biases don’t align with others biases? Good on you for posting some contrarian views - I might not agree with them, but I’m glad it drives some discussion.

10 hours ago, FYI said:

Of course new info is always welcomed, but only when it's really relevant. A lot of times, though, I find the info that gets posted by a certain poster(s), is not only redundant, but also mundane in many cases.

Do you remember the old member here @Guardian? He used to take on that news posting role for the site. And interesting and generally relevant stuff, not reposting every boring and pointless tweet that came up on his Twitter feed. And he did it without an attitude or agenda - he was almost always mostly cheerful and gracious. I miss him. Much of that “news” posting now is more akin to TonyELovesArchitecture (I’m not going to @ him in  case it reawakens him) than anything useful to drive activity and discussion.

[AustralianFan]

South Bank Piazza

• 3 x 3 Basketball
• existing venue
• games capacity:  4,500
• 9.5 kms south west of Athletes Village

But ………

“Organisers might have to search for a new Olympic venue, after the release of a South Bank master plan showed the proposed setting for the 3x3 basketball competition faced demolition.”

“The draft Future South Bank Master Plan was released on Wednesday, with a treetop walk, a more pedestrian-friendly Grey Street and increased green space among the suggestions out for public comment.”

Credit: South Bank plans to force Olympic venue rethink - Brisbane Times - 3 Nov 2023

 

[Sir Rols]

17 hours ago, FYI said:

Lol, reminds me of the L.A. (2024) 2028 trollbies that everything L.A. does will be "wonderful" & can do no wrong, no matter what they proposed, did or changed, & every other host is terrible & in the wrong. 

At least they got shoved to the curb in the end. If only that could be the case here, too, cause yeah, nine more years of the 'Brisbane 2032 is incredible in the universe of everything Olympic' has already gotten tiring. 

You mean old Ruffy? LOL, yeah! Got what he deserved.

At the end of the day, surely this board, and the Olympics in general, are better served by critical analysis of all aspects of the games, not just blind cheerleading and in-your-face nationalism.