Brisbane 2032 Venues/Stadiums Thread

[Victorian]

Details of the three Sunshine Coast venue upgrades are as follows.

Sunshine Coast Stadium Expansion

• The expansion will deliver additional seating, taking total fixed seating capacity to more than 10,500. By utilising the mounds at the northern and southern ends, the stadium will have a total capacity of approximately 14,500.
• Additional temporary seating will be installed to boost the total seating capacity to 20,000 to accommodate the Olympic Games Brisbane 2032 football (soccer) matches.
• Early works will include the demolition of the western grandstand in 2024. Construction is planned to start in 2025 and is due for completion in 2027.
• $148 million has been primarily funded by Queensland and Australian governments and includes a $17 million contribution from council. This funding was committed by council in 2020 and reaffirmed in the Future Host Questionnaire (bid document) submitted to the International Olympics Committee in 2021.

Sunshine Coast Indoor Sports Centre

• A new international indoor sports centre that will have capacity for 11 courts and the ability to convert to a minimum 6000 seat show court.
• The indoor stadium will support a range of groups and sports, including basketball, netball, volleyball, pickleball, futsal and badminton.
• The design of the indoor sports centre meets top-level accessibility standards to accommodate para-athletes and patrons with a disability.
• The venue is proposed to host Olympic Games Brisbane 2032 Basketball preliminary games.
• Construction is planned to start in 2025 and is due for completion in 2027.
• $142 million will be funded by state and federal governments.
• Council is currently considering if it will contribute to enhance the Indoor Sports Centre to maximise its benefit as a community venue. The current plan is for items such as air conditioning, spectator seating and broadcast standard lighting to be brought in for the Olympic and Paralympic Games. During the upcoming budget process, council will consider if funding for these items should be provided to allow them to be permanent and add value to the Centre for both community and elite sport.

Sunshine Coast Mountain Bike Centre

• A key legacy opportunity with the development of our region’s first nature-based recreation precinct. It will host mountain biking, trail running, bushwalking, horse riding and multi-sport events at the site at Parklands, creating a network of adventure experiences across the Sunshine Coast region.
• It will include a new 5km mountain bike trail and multi-use trails and trail hub, including 200 bay carpark.
• Co-located with existing Parkland Conservation Park which already boasts more than 40km of trails.
• Construction to start in 2026. Due for completion in 2027.
• $14 million funded by Queensland and Australian government.
• Council is responsible for the cost to acquire the land for the new Mountain Bike Centre. Council will provide more information once negotiations with landholders are finalised.

 

 

[Victorian]

https://enews.premiers.qld.gov.au/ch/100092/18k4q/44/7m5VNb4G8vFMb.eIrJgYc0xZ8fl6xaWcUIf3Fpg_.html

https://q2032.au/discover/content/what-is-a-pvr

https://q2032.au/discover/content/sunshine-coast-flyover

[Gonzo]

So judging by the news today, it's now OK for Cold Chisel to have a massive concert in Victoria Park yet the NIMBY's are up in arms about a stadium

Time to hit the Cheap Wine in order to process this

[Rob2012]

One is a one off event that presumably leaves the park as it was afterwards, the other is a bloody great permanent building plus associated surrounding infrastructure that eats up a chunk of the park forever?

[Victorian]

 

[Australian Kiwi]

Its all just so provincial and embarrassing. 

[Rob2012]

On 5/29/2024 at 12:18 AM, Gonzo said:

So judging by the news today, it's now OK for Cold Chisel to have a massive concert in Victoria Park yet the NIMBY's are up in arms about a stadium

Time to hit the Cheap Wine in order to process this

A more serious answer to my last one (which was correct but factious ):

For my own benefit, I've just looked up the size of Victoria Park and it's not dissimilar in size to Greenwich Park here. So not small, but not so big that losing a chunk of it to a large stadium and supporting infrastructure wouldn't be a significant loss and noticeable throughout the park.

I don't think worrying about losing inner city parkland is a narrowly NIMBY outlook. I would imagine complaints would come from across the city, just as they would here if somebody proposed a permanent stadium on Greenwich Park.

It's not up to me to decide if the parkland or a new stadium is more important for Brisbane. But I can see why this new plan suddenly emerging from nowhere isn't universally loved.

[Gonzo]

The 'Save Victoria Park' group people are indeed protesting about the Cold Chisel concert 

[Gonzo]

Woah ... missed that bit of news yesterday with the Brisbane 2032 CEO calling for a new Stadium

Johnny C won't be happy!

[Australian Kiwi]

1 minute ago, Gonzo said:

Woah ... missed that bit of news yesterday with the Brisbane 2032 CEO calling for a new Stadium

Johnny C won't be happy!

Wouldn't put it past the IOC to go full Boeing on this kind of dissent. 

[FYI]

20 hours ago, Gonzo said:

Johnny C won't be happy!

When will everyone stop placating to JC.

[Rob2012]

On 5/31/2024 at 12:01 AM, Australian Kiwi said:

Wouldn't put it past the IOC to go full Boeing on this kind of dissent. 

[venuedesignlover]

Do we think a decision to move athletics to the Gabba again or a new stadium other than QSAC will be made post election?

[TorchbearerSydney]

59 minutes ago, venuedesignlover said:

Do we think a decision to move athletics to the Gabba again or a new stadium other than QSAC will be made post election?

I would think so....will be interesting to see what 'plan' each party takes to the election campaign.

I hope the parties dont just say 'we will do the cheapest' option. That is rarely the best solution.

[Sir Rols]

I’d like to think there might… but that may just be wishful thinking. I don’t think the signs are good.

Both major parties have committed to “no new stadium”. I don’t see Miles backing down or changing his mind even in he unlikely situation he wins. The slim chance rests on Crisafuli’s “100 day review”, but would he risk going back on his “no new stadium” stance if he wins? I guess it might depend on the size of his majority.

[Victorian]

Queensland State Budget announced:

https://budget.qld.gov.au/files/Budget_2024-25_Budget_Overview.pdf

BRISBANE 2032 OLYMPIC AND PARALYMPIC GAMES The 2024–25 Budget includes funding to continue to support preparations for the Brisbane 2032 Olympic and Paralympic Games (Brisbane 2032). The Queensland Government is providing an additional $62 million over 4 years from 2024–25 and $14 million per annum ongoing to 2032–33 for the preparation of additional Project Validation Reports and establishment costs for the Games Venue and Legacy Delivery Authority, to be transferred to the Authority once established. Funding contributions have been agreed between the Queensland and Australian governments for the jointly funded $7.1 billion venues infrastructure program to support the hosting of Brisbane 2032. The allocation of funding for specific venues projects is subject to government investment decisions following completion of project assessment activities. Brisbane 2032 Infrastructure The 2024–25 Queensland Budget provides for total capital expenditure for Brisbane 2032 venues infrastructure of $7.1 billion over 9 years to 2032–33. Consistent with the government’s response to the Sport Venue Review, the venues infrastructure program comprises the Brisbane Arena ($2.5 billion), upgrades to the Queensland State Athletics Centre and refurbishment of the Gabba Stadium and Suncorp Stadium ($2.7 billion), and 15 new or upgraded venues under the Minor Venues Program ($1.9 billion). Of this, total funding of $560 million is allocated for minor venues works now in procurement – Chandler Indoor Sports Centre, Brisbane Aquatic Centre, Sunshine Coast Indoor Sport Centre, Sunshine Coast Mountain Bike Centre, and Sunshine Coast Stadium. Total forecast expenditure for the venues’ infrastructure program over 4 years to 2027–28 is $3.247 billion.

[venuedesignlover]

Can this change post election to include Gabba rebuild as athletics venue? I really don’t think so.

[Victorian]

Paris 2024 have changed a lot of venues from bid to games delivery especially with some venue changes in the final 4 years so for Brisbane 2032 to be having some venue changes now 8 years out from the Games isn't the end of the world really in the grand scheme of things. All of these changes occurred within the 8 years timeframe prior to the games.

October 2018 - https://architectureofthegames.net/2024-paris/paris-2024-changes-in-venue-concept-october-2018/\

December 2019 - https://architectureofthegames.net/2024-paris/paris-2024-changes-in-venue-master-plan-december-2019/

June 2022 - https://press.paris2024.org/news/paris-2024-executive-board-proposes-changes-to-venue-plan-and-discusses-paralympic-games-opening-ceremony-in-centre-of-paris-33d6-7578a.html

December 2022 - https://olympics.com/ioc/news/new-era-of-games-embraced-as-updated-paris-2024-venue-concept-approved

[Sir Rols]

If Indianapolis can do it… 
 

Suncorp Stadium emerges as possible Olympic swimming venue after NFL stadium’s transformation

 

Suncorp Stadium has emerged as a potential venue for the 2032 Olympic swimming events after an NFL stadium was transformed for this week’s US qualifiers.

A drop-in pool has been constructed at Lucas Oil Stadium, home of the Indianapolis Colts NFL team, as the Americans select their swimming team for Paris. 

A temporary grandstand splits the stadium in two, with a drop-in race pool on one side and warm-up pools on the other.

In 2032, swimming is slated for a drop-in pool at the newly-constructed Brisbane Arena, but the United States’ swimming trials has sparked a possibility about it being held in front of some 30,000 people at Suncorp Stadium.

One person familiar with Brisbane’s Games venue planning said a temporary pool at Suncorp Stadium “can certainly be done” – with a catch. 

The playing surface likely to be needed for Rugby Sevens and football would probably be affected by the heavy demountable pool structure.

It’s also been questioned whether Games organisers would take the risk of temporary infrastructure on a venue like Suncorp Stadium, which is already booked to hold the opening and closing ceremonies and football finals.

 

[BigVic]

They can put a retractable roof over Suncorp Stadium and modernise it turning it into a stadium with a retractable roof. First SOG Opening Ceremony to be held indoors. Vancouver and Sochi were the two OC's to be held indoors and they were spectacular 

[Sir Rols]

2 hours ago, BigVic said:

They can put a retractable roof over Suncorp Stadium and modernise it turning it into a stadium with a retractable roof. First SOG Opening Ceremony to be held indoors. Vancouver and Sochi were the two OC's to be held indoors and they were spectacular 

Considering they don’t want to stump up the cash for a new Olympic stadium, I doubt they’d even consider roofing Suncorp.

Interesting idea using it for swimming. But impractical considering it’s earmarked for the OC and football/ruby.

[AustralianFan]

(i just posted in the general Brisbane 2032 thread which was a mistake as this is the thread for stadiums)

TALKS UNDERWAY RE ‘MEGA STADIUM’ FOR BRISBANE 2032

Just posted on SSC this evening by another member.

“Peter Gleeson (4BC radio presenter and journalist) reveals that the LNP are having behind-closed-doors meetings about a possible ‘mega stadium’ for the Brisbane 2032 Olympics.”

Here’s the link to this report on Radio Station 4BC in Brisbane:

>> EXCLUSIVE: Top Level meetings consider mega stadium for Brisbane 2032 <<

This news is brilliant!  A private and public funding partnership for a mega legacy stadium in Brisbane which, as the report says, there are already  several stadium examples of this in the USA.

I’m surprised its taken this long for business and public monies to come together to create a truly memorable and lasting legacy for AFL, Cricket and the 2032,Olympic and Paralympic Games.

Possible stadium sites mentioned in the discussions were Hamilton Wharves or Victoria Park.

What sort of public transport infrastructure is at Hamilton wharves? Is that where a Brisbane Metro busway is planned past the Athlete’s Village?

Forgive my excitement.  Lets hope this private/public stadium funding partnership comes to fruition.

Bring it on!

[Rob2012]

Obviously major Australian cities are (almost) unique in needing year-round oval stadiums that are capable of having a track dropped in. In terms of legacy there's no issue, which is a luxury compared with most Olympic host cities and their athletics venues.

So Brisbane using this as an opportunity to get an Optus-like stadium that will last generations seems like a no-brainer. It's just who pays for it...

On that point, I really get the impression Australian sports teams are the biggest skinflints out there. Here in the UK, teams mostly pay for their own stadiums, in the US teams put in a good chunk of the money alongside a good chunk of public money (often the threat of relocation lubricates this), in Australia it seems your teams want shiny new stadiums without paying much at all towards them.

So what's this public-private partnership about? Is the "private" element the teams actually deciding it's in their interests to put something on the table, or are we talking outside sponsors?

It's just very weird you've got this dichotomy of domestic sports which require an Olympic shaped stadium, but nobody who wants to pay for one.

Edited June 21, 2024 by Rob2012

[FYI]

18 hours ago, Sir Rols said:

If Indianapolis can do it… 

Lol, that just reminds me of all the past "if Atlanta can do it, so can...(add obscure city name here)" arguments. 

[Victorian]

LA 2028 just announced some major changes to their venue plan 4 years out from their Games. There is still plenty of time for Brisbane and expect their may be some change from the bid venues like LA and Paris bid.