Brisbane 2032 Venues/Stadiums Thread

[Australian Kiwi]

1 hour ago, Sir Rols said:

A bit of a backlash take on Coates’ role, but a new take:

Thanks Mr Coates, but if anyone is going to boss around our politicians, it should be us

I actually know the writer - she’s a god egg (and sports mad!)

Great point that an elite like Coates who has a long history of bullying and white collar thuggery might be the very reason the Olympics brand is so tainted - especially with something as non transparent as the New Norm which makes it seem in an even higher ivory tower. 

[FYI]

Lol, gotta love that Madonna there, she comes out fighting right outta the gate! 

The article is right on target about JC too. My favorite line though, is “someone needs to put Olympic heavyweight John Coates in his place”. 

[FYI]

I’m certainly no ceremonies aficionado like @baron-pierreIV is, but have the Olympic ceremonies ever taken place in a rectangular stadium before like Suncorp/Lang Park?

[Sir Rols]

44 minutes ago, FYI said:

Lol, gotta love that Madonna there, she comes out fighting right outta the gate

Madonna’s sweet. Used to be my chief of staff.

41 minutes ago, FYI said:

I’m certainly no ceremonies aficionado like @baron-pierreIV is, but have the Olympic ceremonies ever taken place in a rectangular stadium before like Suncorp/Lang Park?

Maracana in Rio. And numerous times for the WOGs

And correct me if I’m wrong - SoFi is the main ceremonial stadium but isn’t staging athletics either at LA 28

Edited February 15, 2024 by Sir Rols

[FYI]

3 minutes ago, Sir Rols said:

Maracana in Rio. And numerous times for the WOGs

And correct me if I’m wrong - SoFi isn’t staging athletics either at LA 28

Isn’t the Maracana a round stadium, though (at least it looks that way from up above). I’m talking about the opening/closing ceremonies. Not athletics.

According to that article, bossy Coates says to use Suncorp/Lang Park for the ceremonies.

[Sir Rols]

6 minutes ago, FYI said:

Isn’t the Maracana a round stadium, though (at least it looks that way from up above). I’m talking about the opening/closing ceremonies. Not athletics.

According to that article, bossy Coates says to use Suncorp/Lang Park for the ceremonies.

Not in 2014-16

[Australian Kiwi]

Glasgow 2014 had the opening ceremony in a soccer stadium separate to athletics. I think it can be quite impressive - I particularly liked how they had a massive screen as a backdrop on one side - made it feel like theatre. 

[Gonzo]

Brisbane flooding again ATM including the proposed stadium site at Albion

Side note, is there a more useless government department than the BOM? Predicted 5-30mm of rain for Brisbane (currently nearly 200)

[FYI]

I thought Albion was off the table because of flooding concerns. Or is talks about it happening again because of what's going on with the Gabba/ Although, Albion would make it closer to the OV in Northshore Hampton than the Gabba would.

[Gonzo]

Correct, the Albion site is being talked up again as a possible option, due to the Gabba mess

[Australian Kiwi]

Of all major Australian cities Brisbane is the most geographically challenging for something like this. 

Sydney, Melbourne, Perth and Adelaide all have geographic regions with much higher levels of space and "land capability" . Brisbane has almost no options beyond the Gabba without looking at a different city - or somewhere without the required infrastructure (QEII). Everything is either too expensive / far  or at risk of flood. 

[Roger87]

I'm starting to have the feeling this is becoming the Denver of our generation. Just waiting for the last piece to fall the others in reaction. 

[baron-pierreIV]

9 hours ago, FYI said:

I’m certainly no ceremonies aficionado like @baron-pierreIV is, but have the Olympic ceremonies ever taken place in a rectangular stadium before like Suncorp/Lang Park?

Calgary 1988 (MacMahon) is rectangular at one end and curved on the other as is Salt Lake 2002.  PyeongChang 2018 was in a pentagonal stadium.  I can't recall the shapes of the Sarajevo and Nagano (the Big Hat) stadia.  

All the Summers have all taken place in oval fields because of the running tracks.  

[Sir Rols]

1 hour ago, baron-pierreIV said:

All the Summers have all taken place in oval fields because of the running tracks.  

I still believe that Rio’s Maracana was in rectanglar mode for its OC. It’s difficult to determine from pics of the ceremony, but I did track down this quote:

Quote

 

The other problem facing the organisers is the ceremony venue — Maracana stadium. The stadium was renovated for the 2014 football World Cup in Brazil. Primarily built for hosting football games, the stadium doesn’t have an athletes track surrounding it, thus limiting the use of floor space. The stadium also does not have a big entrance, forcing the organisers to limit their creativity and make do with smaller props. 

Source

 

 

[stryker]

Someone correct me on this if I'm wrong, but isn't the Brisbane Live Arena not a full go yet? I thought I read somewhere it had been initially approved but funding and building contracts are up in the air or the project could even face canellation.

[Sir Rols]

It is included in the review going on at the moment. It’s the interesting one to watch IMO.

On the one hand, it could be written-off as a non-Olympic project - it was conceived before the bid and only later incorporated into it. But apparently its location above  railway tracks adds to its costs and dramatically impact its longer term maintenance costs. The review could also well be used as an excuse to move it - there’s been several locations suggested (an old police HQ, an old milk factory site, an old glass factory site).

[yoshi]

That's interesting because I thought it'd be a fairly common thing to do - just in this country, the main arena in Birmingham is above railway tracks (that are in a cutting but still) & the main one in Manchester is literally on top of a railway station!

[TorchbearerSydney]

As a huge Australian Olympic fan I would be happy to see Brisbane hand back the Games.....

• I think the timing in mid-winter is ridiculous for a 'beach resort' Games and will make it rather cold and miserable.
• Brisbane is a pretty uninspiring and dull new world city- car borne, spread out, the CBD criss-crossed by through roads and hemmed in by freeway interchanges.
• There is no landmark to identify Brisbane.
•  They are looking for the cheapest solution for everything - including the stadium- which I suspect will be pretty agricultural as a result. They won the bid without a proper plan for the biggest venues WTF.
• Public opinion is at best lukewarm, and seems to be turning rapidly.
• They are following Paris and LA...and suffer by comparison.

I dont even think it would be a big deal, 9 years is a long time. There are good candidates that could step in.

 

[FYI]

"They won the bid without a proper plan for the biggest venues WTF."

That's because Brisbane didn't really "win", since there was no bidding race ITFP. They were practically given 2032 on a silver-platter, thanks mainly from the workings of a particular higher-up IOC brass who wasn't as concerned about such details at the time. So this is what you get as an end result.

[FYI]

On 2/15/2024 at 5:04 PM, Sir Rols said:

Madonna’s sweet. Used to be my chief of staff.

If that (article) was sweet, have to wonder what not-so-sweet would be then. 

16 hours ago, baron-pierreIV said:

Calgary 1988 (MacMahon) is rectangular at one end and curved on the other as is Salt Lake 2002.  PyeongChang 2018 was in a pentagonal stadium.  I can't recall the shapes of the Sarajevo and Nagano (the Big Hat) stadia.  

All the Summers have all taken place in oval fields because of the running tracks.  

 

15 hours ago, Sir Rols said:

I still believe that Rio’s Maracana was in rectanglar mode for its OC. It’s difficult to determine from pics of the ceremony, but I did track down this quote:

So in other words, Rio 2016 was kinda/sorta the first rectangular then.

[Sir Rols]

40 minutes ago, TorchbearerSydney said:

As a huge Australian Olympic fan I would be happy to see Brisbane hand back the Games.....

• I think the timing in mid-winter is ridiculous for a 'beach resort' Games and will make it rather cold and miserable.
• Brisbane is a pretty uninspiring and dull new world city- car borne, spread out, the CBD criss-crossed by through roads and hemmed in by freeway interchanges.
• There is no landmark to identify Brisbane.
•  They are looking for the cheapest solution for everything - including the stadium- which I suspect will be pretty agricultural as a result. They won the bid without a proper plan for the biggest venues WTF.
• Public opinion is at best lukewarm, and seems to be turning rapidly.
• They are following Paris and LA...and suffer by comparison.

I dont even think it would be a big deal, 9 years is a long time. There are good candidates that could step in.

 

It’s sad it’s come to this. I don’t necessarily disagree with you - I probably share most of those misgivings. But I think we’ve gone too far and to back out now would be disastrous to Australia’s reputation and to the Olympics themselves. 

We’re stuck with them now and the best we can do is try to make the best of it - even if that means we stage a cheap, Hicksville games to inspire the Tulsa’s of the world.

8 minutes ago, FYI said:

So in other words, Rio 2016 was kinda/sorta the first rectangular then.

Pretty much, with So-Fi in 28 set to be the second.

[FYI]

7 minutes ago, Sir Rols said:

But I think we’ve gone too far and to back out now would be disastrous to Australia’s reputation and to the Olympics themselves. 

Okay, so this is just a thought (much like others on here when their Olympic wheels start spinning), but what about if the Australian city gets switched, & to another year like 2036? I know the current NBC deal is only 'til 2032 (which is why Brisbane was favored over other Aussie cities ITFP), so for 2036 the broadcasting rights should be open for renegotiation by then, & therefore a Melbourne hosting can then maybe happen in Oct/Nov for example. Plus, ATM, there's still time for someone else to step in & take on 2032, if need be. There's prob more red-tape involved I'm sure, but again, just playing with it a bit.

11 minutes ago, Sir Rols said:

We’re stuck with them now and the best we can do is try to make the best of it - even if that means we stage a cheap, Hicksville games to inspire the Tulsa’s of the world.

Atlanta is basically what inspired the Tulsa's, Hobart's & Leipzig's of the world TBW. The simple mentality of "hey, if they can do it, why can't we?!" So yeah, a Brisbane hosting can certainly perpetuate that black-&-white mentality.

[Gonzo]

1 hour ago, TorchbearerSydney said:

There is no landmark to identify Brisbane.

*cough*

[Sir Rols]

King Wally!

[FYI]

2 hours ago, TorchbearerSydney said:

They are following Paris and LA...and suffer by comparison.

The pillar of excitement definitely starts to dwindle going forward. For it all to culminate with Atlanta 2.0…

2 hours ago, Sir Rols said:

It’s sad it’s come to this. - even if that means we stage a cheap, Hicksville games to inspire the Tulsa’s of the world.