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On 8/13/2023 at 9:27 PM, fusilli said:

What about Thorpe? Surprised no one mentioned him yet.

He could be an interesting choice as the first LGBTIQ Olympic athlete (that we know of ) to light the cauldron.

However personally (and I say this as a gay man myself) there is something a bit "done before' about him. He's our past success, and very much rooted in Sydney 2000 (although it could be a nice way to connect 2000 and 2032).

I'm lukewarm on Thorpe. I want something more out of the box . I could see Brisbane going down the path of Salt Lake 2002 and London 2012 with a 'group' of torch bearers as opposed to a single person like we saw in 1956 and 2000.

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46 minutes ago, Australian Kiwi said:

He could be an interesting choice as the first LGBTIQ Olympic athlete (that we know of ) to light the cauldron.

However personally (and I say this as a gay man myself) there is something a bit "done before' about him. He's our past success, and very much rooted in Sydney 2000 (although it could be a nice way to connect 2000 and 2032).

I'm lukewarm on Thorpe. I want something more out of the box . I could see Brisbane going down the path of Salt Lake 2002 and London 2012 with a 'group' of torch bearers as opposed to a single person like we saw in 1956 and 2000.

Yeah, that echoes my feelings pretty closely.

In the lead-up to Sydney, I was of the view Dawn Fraser was the obvious choice. She was our most famous, successful and loved Olympian and a Sydneysider through-and-through. But as soon as Cathy Freeman took the final torch, it was pretty clear that she was the perfect choice indeed (although apparently Dawn still disagreed and felt slighted). I can’t imagine anybody but Cathy doing it now.

Your Matildas suggestion is an extremely appealing one. A widely diverse group of women, indigenous representation in the form of Mary Fowler, a few Queenslanders, a number of openly but not militant queer members (including Sam Kerr herself), have made the medal round semis at the Olympics, and are basically just so utterly besottedly beloved by Australia right now. If they go all the way now, I’d almost say they’d be red hot favourites, and still strong contenders even if they don’t.   

Postscript. Funnily enough, literally seconds after I posted this, I came across…

 

Pretty well sums it up

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18 hours ago, Sir Rols said:

Yeah, that echoes my feelings pretty closely.

In the lead-up to Sydney, I was of the view Dawn Fraser was the obvious choice. She was our most famous, successful and loved Olympian and a Sydneysider through-and-through. But as soon as Cathy Freeman took the final torch, it was pretty clear that she was the perfect choice indeed (although apparently Dawn still disagreed and felt slighted). I can’t imagine anybody but Cathy doing it now.

 

Yeah I think we got it right. Dawn was also very part of that moment in my memory (especially when the golden girls of 1956 put a blanket around here after she did the honours). I saw their involvement as a passing of the baton from Melbourne 1956 to Sydney 2000. Which is why I'm inclined to hope the stars of 2000 (including Thorpe) are central to the ceremonies in 2032 (maybe carrying the Olympic flag?). 

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18 hours ago, Sir Rols said:

 

Your Matildas suggestion is an extremely appealing one. A widely diverse group of women, indigenous representation in the form of Mary Fowler, a few Queenslanders, a number of openly but not militant queer members (including Sam Kerr herself), have made the medal round semis at the Olympics, and are basically just so utterly besottedly beloved by Australia right now. If they go all the way now, I’d almost say they’d be red hot favourites, and still strong contenders even if they don’t.   

 

I'm still on board. Maybe even more now. 

I think it sends a VERY strong message about the spirit of trying and celebrating achievements even when they don't amount to a technical win. It would communicate to the athletes of 2032 that legendary status not always defined by medals or runs on the board. Its more than that. Kind of an antidote to the 'WON X GOLD MEDALS AT 1984, 1988" vibe that can overwhelm these kinds of honours.

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Just now, Sir Rols said:

You know, Cathy’s actually a Queenslander. Would it be appropriate to see her become the first two-time cauldron lighter? Or maybe be half of a cauldron lighting duo, maybe partnering with a white male? Thorpe?  

Nah. Brisbane will be keen to bat away any suggestions of a "Sydney 2000 Version 2.0" so I think they'll avoid that. 

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Melbourne had a young white male, Sydney had a mature Black women......

 

Maybe an African immigrant like Peter Bol could give a nice balance.....who knows what will happen by 2032!

 

And as an aside- as the flame extinguished in Atlanta, I said to my partner if Cathy Freeman is World Champion in 2000, she will light the flame in Sydney.

 

 

 

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