baron-pierreIV Posted December 6, 2022 Report Share Posted December 6, 2022 LOL!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted December 13, 2022 Report Share Posted December 13, 2022 I find this thread incredibly offensive. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Rols Posted December 13, 2022 Report Share Posted December 13, 2022 C’mon. It’s not the first baton joke that’s been made here over the years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baron-pierreIV Posted December 13, 2022 Author Report Share Posted December 13, 2022 3 hours ago, Victorian said: I find this thread incredibly offensive. Yet here ya are!! You can always bury your head in the sand in 2026 when indeed the "King's Baton" will be . . . strutting before the world. Chill, Victoria, chill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Australian Kiwi Posted January 9 Report Share Posted January 9 There may not be a "King's" Baton at all. - It could remain the "Queen's" Baton in recognition of the Comm Games really forging its identify under her reign. or -It could take on an entirely new name, or meaning. Could even be something as simple as "Commonwealth Baton" with a message sent from the previous host to the next (eg. from Birmingham to Geelong, Geelong to Hamilton etc). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baron-pierreIV Posted January 9 Author Report Share Posted January 9 How about the Royal Club or the Regal Sheleighly? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baron-pierreIV Posted May 7 Author Report Share Posted May 7 On 1/9/2023 at 12:56 AM, Australian Kiwi said: There may not be a "King's" Baton at all. - It could remain the "Queen's" Baton in recognition of the Comm Games really forging its identify under her reign. or -It could take on an entirely new name, or meaning. Could even be something as simple as "Commonwealth Baton" with a message sent from the previous host to the next (eg. from Birmingham to Geelong, Geelong to Hamilton etc). Just saw this now. R u kidding? Why should it remain the "Queen's thing" when she is dead? What? Is she reaching out from the grave? This is something they will really have to tweak for Victoria 2026. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob2012 Posted May 8 Report Share Posted May 8 22 hours ago, baron-pierreIV said: Just saw this now. R u kidding? Why should it remain the "Queen's thing" when she is dead? What? Is she reaching out from the grave? Well, it wouldn't be the only thing to retain its name... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baron-pierreIV Posted May 11 Author Report Share Posted May 11 (edited) On 5/8/2023 at 5:58 AM, TheOtherRob said: Well, it wouldn't be the only thing to retain its name... Well, that's different because that's a business. There would be so many extraneous costs just to keep up with Charles's status and . . . what when he dies or gets de-throned? What? The Ex-King Charles Cinema? Whereas the whole Torch/Baton thing is a symbolic, non-commercial event which takes place in real time and signifies current, contemporaneous events -- hence, it should reflect a more timely, in-the-moment quality. And how pathetic, icky and tacky would it be for Charles, now a sovereign in his own right to preside over the next CWG Opening and have to stand there and bear witness to the reeipt and the reading of the msg from the "Queen's Baton"? I mean . . . when would this poor guy ever get away from his mother's shadow? I bet that moment would get a lot of groans from the live audience and viewers around the world. Edited May 11 by baron-pierreIV Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Rols Posted May 11 Report Share Posted May 11 I agree with you, M. It’s one thing that various businesses, buildings, parks and landmarks etc are named after individual ruling class toffs (I was born in a King George V Hospital and my partner currently works in a Royal Prince Alfred Hospital), but lots of other things change under the new regime - off the top of my head, the old Queens Counsel (QC) title in the legal profession here has now changed to KC. And the baton is just a container holding a message from the current throne warmer - unless Liz left a stack of spare messages for future games in her papers, Charlie will be the one writing the next one. It’s a bit silly then if it’s referred to as anything but the King’s Baton. It’s just an archaic feudal-age form of regal postal delivery. This whole monarchy sh!t is silly. It’s about time the CWGs dropped all the royal sh!t. Surely the number of republics and countries that don’t have the royals as their head of state now out-number the remaining holdout loyalist realms of the crown. It’s now irrelevant, and in many cases offensive, to the vast majority of the commonwealth. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Australian Kiwi Posted May 17 Report Share Posted May 17 On 5/12/2023 at 9:30 AM, Sir Rols said: I agree with you, M. It’s one thing that various businesses, buildings, parks and landmarks etc are named after individual ruling class toffs (I was born in a King George V Hospital and my partner currently works in a Royal Prince Alfred Hospital), but lots of other things change under the new regime - off the top of my head, the old Queens Counsel (QC) title in the legal profession here has now changed to KC. And the baton is just a container holding a message from the current throne warmer - unless Liz left a stack of spare messages for future games in her papers, Charlie will be the one writing the next one. It’s a bit silly then if it’s referred to as anything but the King’s Baton. It’s just an archaic feudal-age form of regal postal delivery. This whole monarchy sh!t is silly. It’s about time the CWGs dropped all the royal sh!t. Surely the number of republics and countries that don’t have the royals as their head of state now out-number the remaining holdout loyalist realms of the crown. It’s now irrelevant, and in many cases offensive, to the vast majority of the commonwealth. Exactly this. 2026 is the first post-Elizabethan II Games and (I think) a chance for the CWG to take some new steps to freshen it up further. The Games are getting smaller and hopefully more agile. So too should its traditions to broaden its appeal. While I appreciate the CWG's originality in not just having a knock off flame like every other second tier multi sport event, a King's/Queen's baton is condescending... make it a Commonwealth Baton. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TorchbearerSydney Posted May 17 Report Share Posted May 17 The baton has been a bit of a joke for while.....the queen puts a message in the baton and then pulls the speech out of her pocket for example. A message in a bottle idea is a bit...outdated. I like the idea of a relay from the last city to the next city- the people of Birmingham to the people of Victoria - a Commonwealth baton. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brekkie Boy Posted May 23 Report Share Posted May 23 Is it time to introduce a Commonwealth Beacon - a completely original idea based on the lighting of beacons to mark significant Royal Occassions, and in no way similar to anything you may have seen in any other international multi-sport event. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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