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20 hours ago, Quaker2001 said:

11 years in advance of 2036 is 2025.  That's still 3 years away.  When exactly are you expecting a host announcement?  We all get there's no timetable anymore, but it has been less than a year since the 2032 host was made official.  So why do you assume there's going to be some sort of rush to get a 2036 host?  Because the IOC showed a willingness (*once*) to do it before?

Do we really have a high level of interest in hosting 2036?  Or do we just have a long list of "media reports" to go off of?  I think it's more of the latter than the former.  So maybe let's not act like the IOC has all the information they need and is ready to start down the path towards selecting a candidate.  Or that cities that need to be at the ready really soon or they risk getting left out.

I think you're still over-selling the interest level in these Olympics.  Again, look back at how many media reports there were for recent Olympic bids and you'll see it's not all that different from what we have now.  And we know how many viable bids that actually gave the IOC

You asked: “When exactly are you expecting a host announcement?”

  • Los Angeles elected 2028 host in September 2017 - 11 years before the Games
  • the Brisbane candidature elevated to Targeted Dialogue in Feb 2031, approved by the IOC Executive Board then elected in July 2021 in Tokyo - 11 years before the Games.
  • A 2030 candidature/s to be elevated to Targeted Dialogue in December 2022, approved by the IOC Board then elected as host in May 2023 in Mumbai - 7 years before the Games
  • A 2034 candidature or candidatures to be elevated to Targeted Dialogue, approved by the IOC Executuve Board and elected at some point between 2022 and 2027 (who knows if another double-awarding of 2030 and 2034 hosts occurs again if there are two of three high quality candidates who tick all the boxes and are ready, eg Sapporo, SLC, Vancouver?)
  • A 2036 candidature or candidatures can be expected to be elevated to Targeted Dialogue at some point when ripe and ready between 2025 and 2029, approved by the IOC Executive Board and elected 6-7 months later.  So right now all we have is discussion on media reports of interested parties, as they are reported. That’s all, nothing more. We can only watch this space, speculate and comment.

 

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On 5/31/2022 at 4:55 AM, Chris_Mex said:

Sure they do if they have a reason to support em ehm...coates...samaranch...else why dont we have yet a host for 2030, if the US, Canada and Japan surely "ticks all boxes"?

They will do very soon.  This December 2022, the IOC said they expected to elevate a candidature/s to Targeted Dialogue ahead of a Host Election in May 2023.

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“What on earth are you on about?”

”This thread is about the level of interest in hosting the 2036 Summer Games”, remember?! 
 

“You’re completely off-topic.”

If you want to talk about the 2030 Winter Games, “here is the link” to it:

https://www.gamesbids.com/forums/forum/138-2030-olympic-winter-games-bids/

But “this thread here that you are in now is about those interested in hosting the 2036 Summer Games”. 

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8 hours ago, AustralianFan said:

You asked: “When exactly are you expecting a host announcement?”

  • Los Angeles elected 2028 host in September 2017 - 11 years before the Games
  • the Brisbane candidature elevated to Targeted Dialogue in Feb 2031, approved by the IOC Executive Board then elected in July 2021 in Tokyo - 11 years before the Games.
  • A 2030 candidature/s to be elevated to Targeted Dialogue in December 2022, approved by the IOC Board then elected as host in May 2023 in Mumbai - 7 years before the Games
  • A 2034 candidature or candidatures to be elevated to Targeted Dialogue, approved by the IOC Executuve Board and elected at some point between 2022 and 2027 (who knows if another double-awarding of 2030 and 2034 hosts occurs again if there are two of three high quality candidates who tick all the boxes and are ready, eg Sapporo, SLC, Vancouver?)
  • A 2036 candidature or candidatures can be expected to be elevated to Targeted Dialogue at some point when ripe and ready between 2025 and 2029, approved by the IOC Executive Board and elected 6-7 months later.  So right now all we have is discussion on media reports of interested parties, as they are reported. That’s all, nothing more. We can only watch this space, speculate and comment.

I did ask that and you gave me a very robotic answer.  I asked when *you* are expecting an announcement.  Not a generic boilerplate answer as to the widest range of when it might happen.  If you don't have an opinion on that, that's fine.  But you're the once who said "I think it’s more likely that a host will be elevated sooner rather later."  What are you defining as sooner?  Because 3 years away doesn't seem all that soon.

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6 hours ago, Quaker2001 said:

I did ask that and you gave me a very robotic answer.  I asked when *you* are expecting an announcement.  Not a generic boilerplate answer as to the widest range of when it might happen.  If you don't have an opinion on that, that's fine.  But you're the once who said "I think it’s more likely that a host will be elevated sooner rather later."  What are you defining as sooner?  Because 3 years away doesn't seem all that soon.

In case you missed it the first time:

You asked: “When exactly are you expecting a host announcement?”

  • Los Angeles elected 2028 host in September 2017 - 11 years before the Games
  • the Brisbane candidature elevated to Targeted Dialogue in Feb 2031, approved by the IOC Executive Board then elected in July 2021 in Tokyo - 11 years before the Games.
  • A 2030 candidature/s to be elevated to Targeted Dialogue in December 2022, approved by the IOC Board then elected as host in May 2023 in Mumbai - 7 years before the Games
  • A 2034 candidature or candidatures to be elevated to Targeted Dialogue, approved by the IOC Executuve Board and elected at some point between 2022 and 2027 (who knows if another double-awarding of 2030 and 2034 hosts occurs again if there are two of three high quality candidates who tick all the boxes and are ready, eg Sapporo, SLC, Vancouver?)
  • A 2036 candidature or candidatures can be expected to be elevated to Targeted Dialogue at some point when ripe and ready between 2025 and 2029, approved by the IOC Executive Board and elected 6-7 months later.  So right now all we have is discussion on media reports of interested parties, as they are reported. That’s all, nothing more. We can only watch this space, speculate and comment.
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6 hours ago, Quaker2001 said:

I did ask that and you gave me a very robotic answer.  I asked when *you* are expecting an announcement.  Not a generic boilerplate answer as to the widest range of when it might happen.  If you don't have an opinion on that, that's fine.  But you're the once who said "I think it’s more likely that a host will be elevated sooner rather later."  What are you defining as sooner?  Because 3 years away doesn't seem all that soon.

 

3 minutes ago, AustralianFan said:

In case you missed it the first time:

You asked: “When exactly are you expecting a host announcement?”

  • Los Angeles elected 2028 host in September 2017 - 11 years before the Games
  • the Brisbane candidature elevated to Targeted Dialogue in Feb 2031, approved by the IOC Executive Board then elected in July 2021 in Tokyo - 11 years before the Games.
  • A 2030 candidature/s to be elevated to Targeted Dialogue in December 2022, approved by the IOC Board then elected as host in May 2023 in Mumbai - 7 years before the Games
  • A 2034 candidature or candidatures to be elevated to Targeted Dialogue, approved by the IOC Executuve Board and elected at some point between 2022 and 2027 (who knows if another double-awarding of 2030 and 2034 hosts occurs again if there are two of three high quality candidates who tick all the boxes and are ready, eg Sapporo, SLC, Vancouver?)
  • A 2036 candidature or candidatures can be expected to be elevated to Targeted Dialogue at some point when ripe and ready between 2025 and 2029, approved by the IOC Executive Board and elected 6-7 months later.  So right now all we have is discussion on media reports of interested parties, as they are reported. That’s all, nothing more. We can only watch this space, speculate and comment.

 

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1 hour ago, AustralianFan said:

In case you missed it the first time:

 

You asked: “When exactly are you expecting a host announcement?”

  • Los Angeles elected 2028 host in September 2017 - 11 years before the Games
  • the Brisbane candidature elevated to Targeted Dialogue in Feb 2031, approved by the IOC Executive Board then elected in July 2021 in Tokyo - 11 years before the Games.
  • A 2030 candidature/s to be elevated to Targeted Dialogue in December 2022, approved by the IOC Board then elected as host in May 2023 in Mumbai - 7 years before the Games
  • A 2034 candidature or candidatures to be elevated to Targeted Dialogue, approved by the IOC Executuve Board and elected at some point between 2022 and 2027 (who knows if another double-awarding of 2030 and 2034 hosts occurs again if there are two of three high quality candidates who tick all the boxes and are ready, eg Sapporo, SLC, Vancouver?)
  • A 2036 candidature or candidatures can be expected to be elevated to Targeted Dialogue at some point when ripe and ready between 2025 and 2029, approved by the IOC Executive Board and elected 6-7 months later.  So right now all we have is discussion on media reports of interested parties, as they are reported. That’s all, nothing more. We can only watch this space, speculate and comment.

I didn't miss it the first time.  Or the second time or the third time.  Let's try this again since - perhaps not surprisingly - you think the answer to a specific question should be a 5 point recap including 4 lines I didn't ask for you to add as if we don't already know.

When *exactly* are you expecting a host announcement *for the 2036 Olympics*?  Key word.. exactly.  I'm not asking you to give me a precise date, but something a little more narrow than an exhaustive 4 year range of all possibilities would be appropriate.  When is "sooner rather than later" (your words) because "at some point when ripe and ready between 2025 and 2029" is the answer I'd get if I asked some AI bot that question.  When exactly is a prospective host city "at peril" (again, your questions) because the IOC will have selected a host already?

If you don't have any opinions to offer here, that's fine.  But it sounds like you do.  Apparently though you'd rather copy and paste the same garbage over and over in response to that.  Are you capable of addressing a single very simple question without adding paragraphs of additional and unnecessary space?

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5 hours ago, Quaker2001 said:

I didn't miss it the first time.  Or the second time or the third time.  Let's try this again since - perhaps not surprisingly - you think the answer to a specific question should be a 5 point recap including 4 lines I didn't ask for you to add as if we don't already know.

When *exactly* are you expecting a host announcement *for the 2036 Olympics*?  Key word.. exactly.  I'm not asking you to give me a precise date, but something a little more narrow than an exhaustive 4 year range of all possibilities would be appropriate.  When is "sooner rather than later" (your words) because "at some point when ripe and ready between 2025 and 2029" is the answer I'd get if I asked some AI bot that question.  When exactly is a prospective host city "at peril" (again, your questions) because the IOC will have selected a host already?

If you don't have any opinions to offer here, that's fine.  But it sounds like you do.  Apparently though you'd rather copy and paste the same garbage over and over in response to that.  Are you capable of addressing a single very simple question without adding paragraphs of additional and unnecessary space?

If you don’t like the answer, don’t ask the question.  

Or you can ask the IOC directly yourself “exactly when”.

For the third and last time, I will repeat - the last paragraph:

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  • 3 weeks later...

^ I don't know if the weather there would be ideal for a summer games, but it may be good for a winter Olympics. Either way, a lot of infrastructure would be required. Personally, I think the Arctic would be a better possible site for the IOC. Maybe Siberia too.

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3 hours ago, Quaker2001 said:

Hopefully the bid leaders have their act together the next time around or else it's not going to get off the ground

As long as the current Füh…leader in Hungary is in power, they can stay on the ground, thank you very much.

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9 minutes ago, FYI said:

Something tells me, though, that'd be over Madrid's dead body.

Agreed.  The parties that needed to come together for the 2030 bid couldn't make it work.  I can't imagine they'll convince Spain to go that route while Madrid is still looking to land their own Olympics.

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3 hours ago, FYI said:

Something tells me, though, that'd be over Madrid's dead body.

Well, yeah, but the IOC's spin would be that Barcelona wouldn't have to build new, giant venues -- hence, it would be an environmentally-responsible bid whereas another Madrid bid would be a megalomaniacal one which would not make the IOC look good.  Hence, I say re-using another successful past host would be good for the IOC's image.  Madrid should just go for a World's Fair.  They can let it run for 6 months!! 

Further, Barcelona would bring back memories of a successful, co-existent Games in the POST-Franco era.  Madrid would remind people that Spain's capital city was the dictator Franco's chosen city and that Franco was an inactive ally of Adolph Hitler whose Berlin 1936 Games no one would want to commemorate--least of all, the IOC.  Barcelona is the antithesis of the Franco-Fascist-Nazi days.  

That's why I say, Barcelona would make the perfect 2036 host!  OK, Madrid gets a football slot.  

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