2036 Olympics: Crowded Field of Interested Parties

[AustralianFan]

7 hours ago, AustralianFan said:

Host Cities Prefer the Dialogue System over the Traditional Bidding War

- above link to gamesbids.com post

For the Summer Olympic and Paralympic Games, the introduction of the New Norm dialogue system has been a raging success in attracting a long list of cities interested in hosting.

It’s quite stunning that the IOC recently announced in Seoul that it is currently in Continuous Dialogue with 10 cities for the Summer Games, with all of those suspected to be in that list of 10,  publicly having expressed interest also in hosting the 2036 edition.

[AustralianFan]

 Two-digit number of NOCs interested in hosting 2036 Olympics

During a visit to China, IOC President Bach talked about the 2036 Games in these interview excerpts:

“With multiple World Cup and World Championships series of different sports taking place in China throughout 2023, Bach believes it "shows the great confidence the world of international sports has in China as a host and organizer and how much we all appreciate the warm hospitality of the Chinese people."

“Bach also revealed that there are "already a two-digit number of interested National Olympic Committees or regions who want to organize the Olympic Games in 2036."

"There is still some time to go. We will maybe have a better feeling how the world will look like in 2036 than we do at this very moment now."

 

Credit: 

• IOC President video interview - english news.cn - 7 May 2023
• Two-digit number of NOCs interested in hosting - Xinhua News - 7 May 2023

[Brekkie Boy]

Let's have an open transparent bidding process then, not murky deals behind closed doors.    A large part of the reason there is more interest in 2036 is because the 2032 bidding process closed before most cities knew it had opened.

[AustralianFan]

40 minutes ago, Brekkie Boy said:

Let's have an open transparent bidding process then, not murky deals behind closed doors.    A large part of the reason there is more interest in 2036 is because the 2032 bidding process closed before most cities knew it had opened.

Here we go again. 

The New Norm Olympic Games selection process was announced to the world 4 years ago on 24 June 2019 from Lausanne, Switzerland.

Brisbane had already been preparing a bid for the 2028 Games but switched it’s focus to 2032 when it was apparent that a 2024 / 2028 deal was going to happen between Olympic giants Paris and Los Angeles.

When the whole new Bidding Process was then announced 2 yeats later, it sprinted out of the blocks like Usain Bolt, leaving rivals in the dust.  

I will repeat again. The new Bidding Process was announced to the whole world 4 years ago. Under New Norm, there is no more a rigid fixed “bidding timeline”, you can enter dialogue at any time.  That was also announced to the world in 2019 about 6 months before the pandemic.

It was Brisbane who was already well advanced and left the parties who had publicly expressed interest in hosting in 2032 far behind.

Here’s a full list of Interested Parties for the 2032 Olympic Games.

Brisbane was voted as the 2032 Host in a landslide just over two years later at the postponed the Tokyo Games in July 2021.

Brisbane was just the first.  

Those interested in hosting 2036 are not going to again get caught napping and this time are awake and actively pursuing those Games in early continuous dialogue with the IOC.

It’s up to those 2036 interested parties if they want to reveal thenselves as being in dialogue - and several have publicly and openly announced they are in dialogue with the IOC Future Host Commission.

 

[AustralianFan]

1 hour ago, Brekkie Boy said:

Let's have an open transparent bidding process then, not murky deals behind closed doors.    A large part of the reason there is more interest in 2036 is because the 2032 bidding process closed before most cities knew it had opened.

 

6 minutes ago, AustralianFan said:

Here we go again. 

The New Norm Olympic Games selection process was announced to the world 4 years ago on 24 June 2019 from Lausanne, Switzerland.

Brisbane had already been preparing a bid for the 2028 Games but switched it’s focus to 2032 when it was apparent that a 2024 / 2028 deal was going to happen between Olympic giants Paris and Los Angeles.

When the whole new Bidding Process was then announced 2 yeats later, it sprinted out of the blocks like Usain Bolt, leaving rivals in the dust.  

I will repeat again. The new Bidding Process was announced to the whole world 4 years ago. Under New Norm, there is no more a rigid fixed “bidding timeline”, you can enter dialogue at any time.  That was also announced to the world in 2019 about 6 months before the pandemic.

It was Brisbane who was already well advanced and left the parties who had publicly expressed interest in hosting in 2032 far behind.

Here’s a full list of Interested Parties for the 2032 Olympic Games.

Brisbane was voted as the 2032 Host in a landslide just over two years later at the postponed the Tokyo Games in July 2021.

Brisbane was just the first.  

Those interested in hosting 2036 are not going to again get caught napping and this time are awake and actively pursuing those Games in early continuous dialogue with the IOC.

It’s up to those 2036 interested parties if they want to reveal themselves as being in dialogue - and several have publicly and openly announced they are in dialogue with the IOC Future Host Commission.

 

Here’s a snapshot of interested parties in hosting the 2036 Olympic Games.

 

[Brekkie Boy]

On 6/1/2023 at 8:53 PM, AustralianFan said:

Brisbane was voted as the 2032 Host in a landslide just over two years later at the postponed the Tokyo Games in July 2021.

You can't win by a landslide in a vote with just one candidate.  That's how corrupt dictatorships work.   A "new norm" doesn't mean it's the right process.

As I've said before Brisbane could be an excellent venue and I think it's good for the Olympics to scale down and possibly show that smaller cities have a chance, but anyone following the supposed bidding process knew their was other interest, especially post-covid, and that many other cities were taken by surprise with the speed in which the IOC made that decision.

 

Even if everything was technically above board it's a process that felt like it wasn't, and just the latest in a long line of catastrophes under Bach's leadership.   The sooner he is gone, the better.

[AustralianFan]

9 hours ago, Brekkie Boy said:

You can't win by a landslide in a vote with just one candidate.  That's how corrupt dictatorships work.   A "new norm" doesn't mean it's the right process.

As I've said before Brisbane could be an excellent venue and I think it's good for the Olympics to scale down and possibly show that smaller cities have a chance, but anyone following the supposed bidding process knew their was other interest, especially post-covid, and that many other cities were taken by surprise with the speed in which the IOC made that decision.

 

Even if everything was technically above board it's a process that felt like it wasn't, and just the latest in a long line of catastrophes under Bach's leadership.   The sooner he is gone, the better.

Sometimes when there is change,  some are stuck in their old ways.

There was no secret behind the door announcement when the New Norm bidding process changes were announced.

The entire world heard about the changes at the same time and everyone, and I mean everyone,  knew that big changes to the entire host Olympics selection process was coming because it was publicly in development and consultation for some time.

are least 10 confirmed candidates are in dialogue with the IOC to Host in 2036 and more who are interested parties in 2036.   They’ve been piling on to Host the Summer Games since Brisbane raced away from the field and was voted in as Host by the IOC Session by 80 YES votes compared to 5 NO votes in a sweeping show of support less than 2 years ago.

With reduced costs for everyone and removal of unnecessary barriers and requirements including actively encouraging candidates to use existing or temporary facilities with reduced capacities instead of buildong new ones, New Norm is the change that needed to happen.  It was a long time coming, well before Bach becane Presidenr, and it needed to happen.

Don’t be naive and think that when Bach steps down in 2025 that New Norm will also step down.   That’s not happening because, like it or not, the New Norm Olympic Host Selection Process is here to stay.

You call it a catastrophe, when it isn’t.  New Norm wasn’t Bach’s personal pet project because that’s just nonsense.  The entire Olympic movement and sporting world bought into the Agenda 2020 Host selection consultation, input and development changes over a number of years, leading up to the New Norm announcement which was also Voted in atveach step of the way by the fulll IOC Sessions.

No, wasn’t Bach’s personal project, it was everyone’s ….. and it’s foolish to think that New Norm is going away in 2025 when he steps down.  He didn’t unilaterally impose the New Norm changes on the Olympic movement, everyone did.

Make no mistake.  New Norm here to stay for both the Summer and Winter Games host selection process.  It really is the new normal.

The 2030 and 2034 Winter Games host selection process, along with the additional warming climate challenges and possibly a new rotating host pool, will be selected under the New Norm host selection process as will the hosts for the 2036 Summer Games, 2038 Winter Games, 2040 Summer Games and beyond.

Sorry, New Norm is here to stay long after 2025.

 

[AustralianFan]

10 hours ago, Brekkie Boy said:

You can't win by a landslide in a vote with just one candidate.  That's how corrupt dictatorships work.   A "new norm" doesn't mean it's the right process.

As I've said before Brisbane could be an excellent venue and I think it's good for the Olympics to scale down and possibly show that smaller cities have a chance, but anyone following the supposed bidding process knew their was other interest, especially post-covid, and that many other cities were taken by surprise with the speed in which the IOC made that decision.

 

Sometimes when there is change,  some are stuck in their old ways.

There was no secret behind the door announcement when the New Norm bidding process changes were announced.

The entire world heard about the changes at the same time and everyone, and I mean everyone,  knew that big changes to the entire host Olympics selection process were coming because it was publicly in development and consultation for some time.

There are least 10 confirmed candidates are in dialogue with the IOC to Host in 2036 and more who are interested parties in 2036.   They’ve been piling on to Host the 2036 Summer Games since Brisbane raced away from the field and was voted in as Host by the IOC Session by 80 YES votes compared to 5 NO votes in a sweeping show of support less than 2 years ago.

With reduced costs for everyone and removal of unnecessary barriers and requirements including actively encouraging candidates to use existing or temporary facilities with reduced capacities instead of building new ones, New Norm is the change that needed to happen.  It was a long time coming, well before Bach became President.

Don’t be naive and think that when Bach steps down in 2025 that New Norm will also step down.   That’s not happening because, like it or not, the New Norm Olympic Host Selection Process is here to stay.

You call it a catastrophe, when it isn’t.  New Norm wasn’t Bach’s personal pet project because that’s just nonsense.  The entire Olympic movement and sporting world brought about and bought into the Agenda 2020,  Host selection consultation, input and development changes over a number of years, leading up to the New Norm announcement which was also Voted in at each step of the way by the fulll IOC Sessions.

No, wasn’t Bach’s personal project, it was everyone’s ….. and it’s foolish to think that New Norm is going away in 2025 when he steps down.  Bach “didn’t unilaterally impose the New Norm changes on the Olympic movement”, everyone did.

The 2030 and 2034 Winter Games host selection process, along with the additional warming climate challenges and possibly a new rotating host pool, will be selected under the New Norm host selection process as will the hosts for the 2036 Summer Games, 2038 Winter Games, 2040 Summer Games and beyond.

Make no mistake.  This process is here to stay for how hosts are selected for both the Summer and Winter Games.  It really is the new normal - the New Norm.

 

[AustralianFan]

(apologies for the above corrections and two similar posts as I had too many typos in it and we are unable to edit our posts on gamesbids.com ) 

[Brekkie Boy]

On 6/3/2023 at 9:55 PM, AustralianFan said:

(apologies for the above corrections and two similar posts as I had too many typos in it and we are unable to edit our posts on gamesbids.com ) 

No worries - both were TLDR anyway.

[AustralianFan]

Add Poland to the growing crowded list of interested parties for the 2036 Olympic Games.

>> Poland 2036 - Gamesbids.com

 

[AustralianFan]

Updated:  

 

Interested Parties in 2036 Games

1. Poland 2036
2. Ahmedabad 2036
3. Britain 2036
4. Budapest 2036
5. Egypt 2036
6. Germany 2036
7. Istanbul 2036
8. Jakarta 2036
9. Madrid 2036
10. Mexico 2036
11. Qatar 2036
12. Seoul 2036

[FYI]

And out of that "crowded field of interested parties" on that 'list', at least half of those are non-starters for one reason or another.

[AustralianFan]

3 hours ago, FYI said:

And out of that "crowded field of interested parties" on that 'list', at least half of those are non-starters for one reason or another.

Absolutely, I agree with you.

They all remain as interested parties in dialogue with the Future Host Commission.  The list has grown from the ten announced by the IOC President in Seoul last year.

Poland being the latest.

[AustralianFan]

On 7/14/2023 at 4:59 AM, AustralianFan said:

Interested Parties in 2036 Games

Actually, I missed China who was invited by Thomas Bach recently in May.

IOC President claims regions interested in hosting 2036 Olympics now in double-digits - China invited to bid

Also, Spain (Madrid) is off the list: Madrid Mayor denies Spanish capital has joined 2036 Olympic bid race

 

UPDATED

Interested Parties in 2036 Games

1. China 2036
2. Egypt 2036
3. Germany 2036
4. Hungary 2036
5. India 2036
6. Indonesia 2036
7. Mexico 2036
8. Poland 2036
9. Qatar 2036
10. South Korea 2036
11. Turkey 2036
12. UK 2036

 

 

[ulu]

I'm not sure China being invited to bid makes them an interested party.

[AustralianFan]

1 hour ago, ulu said:

I'm not sure China being invited to bid makes them an interested party.

I agree.  But I would bet that China would be very interested in hosting another Olympic Games.  The fact that the IOC President invited China to bid for the 2036 Olympic Games while the IOC President was himselfin China, implies that, behind the scenes,  China are very interested.

China are also building or have built massive  amounts of sporting infrastrucutre and stadia for various other Asian Games, Univeriade, etc etc.  Clearly, another Olympic Games is what they want.

[AustralianFan]

 

1 hour ago, Sir Rols said:

At least we still have Nusantara

There are a lot more parties interested in 2036 hosting than Nusantara.

Don’t fall for the old trick that “interested parties” equals viable, it doesn’t.

Its just the way the Olympic Host selection process works now.

If youre interested in hosting, no way does it mean you are a viable candidate, it just means you ate interested.  Nusantara is an example of this - there’s no way on earth would the IOC select Nusantara as host city in 2036 - but they remain an “interested party” even if they have no chance.

[Sir Rols]

Yes, we know that Professor

it was called sarcasm

[AustralianFan]

Updated I think from the July 2023 list, this below would be not far off the uodated list of parties interested in hosting in 2036.  So its an estimated list only.

The IOC explicitly said in South Korea (last year I think it was?) that the number of 2036 parties interested was in double digits.

So with Poland and Mexico’s withdrawl, I’m guessing the number has dropped to 9 and that’s without an update from the Future Host Commission.

Interested Parties in 2036 Games

1. China 2036
2. Egypt 2036
3. Germany 2036
4. Hungary 2036
5. India 2036
6. Indonesia 2036
7. Qatar 2036
8. South Korea 2036
9. Turkey 2036

[AustralianFan]

1 minute ago, AustralianFan said:

Updated I think from the July 2023 list, this below would be not far off the uodated list of parties interested in hosting in 2036.  So its an estimated list only.

The IOC explicitly said in South Korea (last year I think it was?) that the number of 2036 parties interested was in double digits.

So with Poland and Mexico’s withdrawl, I’m guessing the number has dropped to 9 and that’s without an update from the Future Host Commission.

Whoops, sorry, my error.  I’m guessing the number is currently 10, so still in double digits.  

Updated Interested Parties in 2036 Games (estimated)

1. China 2036
2. Egypt 2036
3. Germany 2036
4. Hungary 2036
5. India 2036
6. Indonesia 2036
7. Qatar 2036
8. South Korea 2036
9. Turkey 2036
10. UK 2036

So with Poland and Mexico’s withdrawl, I’m guessing the number has dropped from 12  to 10 and that’s without an update from the IOC Future Host Commission, so not sure if the list has grown or not since the Seoul announcement by Bach.

[FYI]

What's the point, though, of advocating "interested parties" if deep down you know that most of them "have 'no' chance" anyway (i.e. Nusantra). Talk about an oxymoron. It should be about the QUALITY of the candidates, not the "quantity". 

[AustralianFan]

15 minutes ago, FYI said:

What's the point, though, of advocating "interested parties" if deep down you know that most of them "have 'no' chance" anyway (i.e. Nusantra). Talk about an oxymoron. It should be about the QUALITY of the candidates, not the "quantity". 

Buddy, you still havent gotten your head around the official IOC term “interested parties” ?

@FYI  do  you,  after  all  this  time,  seriously  think  that  I  made  this  term “interested  parties” on  my  own?   Or are you just trolling?

Interested Parties is the official IOC given name for countries, cities or regions who are interested in hosting an Olympic Games or Olympic Winter Games.

Catch up with the facts:  under New Norm, now in it’s 5th year, interested parties always has been the official IOC name.  

[Quaker2001]

23 minutes ago, FYI said:

What's the point, though, of advocating "interested parties" if deep down you know that most of them "have 'no' chance" anyway (i.e. Nusantra). Talk about an oxymoron. It should be about the QUALITY of the candidates, not the "quantity". 

I had to Google search Nusantara to figure out what or where that is.  Hard to award an Olympics to a place that doesn't technically exist yet and isn't planned on being finished until 2045.  So this is an easy one.  You say Nusantara?  I say NO-santara! 

[FYI]

5 minutes ago, AustralianFan said:

Or are you just trolling?

Why don't you ask your many other handles that question. 

2 minutes ago, Quaker2001 said:

You say Nusantara?  I say NO-santara!