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Shock! as MCG,Gabba,Adelaide fail to clear first hurdle

Three well-known australian sporting stadiums have failed to clear the first hurdle of the technical inspection carried out over the past week by the Australian Football Federation and OZ 2018 technical fficials.

The announcement that the MCG an iconic australian venue had not cleared the first technical inspection phase came as a shock to many city officials. A brief report on the first phase of inspections cited "a lack of clear and detailed plans to transform the venue into a world class football venue" that would meet the requirements of FIFA.

"We don't find it acceptable that FIFA World Cup matches be played in stadia that place spectators a distance away from the action for which they have paid to enjoy. While these three stadia (MCG, Gabba,AAMI) have not been excluded entirely as match venues, a more comprehensive presentation would need to be conducted to ensure that seating for fans in football mode is adequately addressed. After all this is indeed a football world cup that should be played in stadia that meet the highest standards for both spectators and players in terms of a football stadium." said Mo Rush

The eight stadia that have cleared the first hurdle are as follows:

1. Suncorp Stadium, Brisbane

2. Telstra Stadium, Sydney

3. Telstra Dome, Melbourne

4. Energy Australia Stadium, Newcastle

5.Canberra Stadium, Canberra

6. Aussie Stadium, Sydney

7. Eden Park, Auckland

8. Stadium Western Australia, Perth

The inclusion of Eden Park, which is set to undergo a multi million dollar expansion into a 65,000 all seater for the 2011 rugby world cup, has infuriated many australian soccer officials.

Mo rush however responded saying: "This world cup is the world cup of Oceania, although under the name OZ 2018, we hope to include New Zealand, which will provide a world class venue for matches in the opening rounds. At this stage no venue in Tasmania has met the standards in the first phase of this inspection, but like other stadia that have not cleared the first hurdle, we cannot rule out that a sustainable world class football venue presented to the bid committee would or would not be included in the final set of stadia."

Melbourne and Adelaide city officials showed their disregard for the first phase of technical inspections declaring the report as "load of nonsense".

"The MCG in all likelihood should be the venue for the World Cup Final if Australia wins the bid, its a world class venue, that would host football matches with ease." said one MCG stadium official.

The second phase of technical inspections and the finalisation of stadium capacities will take place over the next few weeks.

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Ah Mo, the Telstra Dome in Melbourne has the same pitch dimensions as the MCG - and even though there are some movable seating sections, they actually form obstructions to some level 2 seating sightlines - so basically you'd have to discount both Melbourne venues if distance from the playing field is your excuse :)

Also in the proposed 2010 WC bid that was floated in the mid 90's, a temporary seating bowl would have been constructed over level 1 so the configuration would a) suit a soccer stadium and B) capacity would be 120,000.

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Melbourne Victory Stadium present 2018 plans as the MCG fails at the first hurdle

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New plans for Melbourne's new $190 million rectangular stadium were presented in a private meeting earlier today after news of the "MCG snub" spread across the city.

The stadium to be built where the Edwin Flack Field was, was to have a planned future expansion of 5,000 but new  plans to increase the capacity by 25,000 to 45,000 to meet the 40,000 capacity benchmark were proposed earlier today.

Due to a contract between Telstra Dome and the Victorian Government, no stadium can be built in Melbourne with a capacity over 20,000 until 2010, so the additional 25,000 seat expansion would apparently fit perfectly into the construction phase from 2014-2017 if OZ 2018 was a success. The stadium will be state-of-the-art and be the new home for Football, Rugby League and Union in Melbourne. The Melbourne Victory FC & Melbourne Storm RLC will be the two main tenants. The plans for a 45,000 seater stadium would include a further tier consisting mainly of temporary seating ensuring the capacity after 2018 would remain at a capacity of between 20 and 30,000.

The first phase of the new stadium will be completed in 2008, with expansions expected to take place between 2014 and 2017. The roof height would be increased to accommodate a possible temporary expansion to the second tier, if OZ 2018 is a success.

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MCG stadium officials have responded to the new proposal describing the new plan as "absurd". "Why have a 45,000 seat stadium when we have a stadium that could seat 120,000 for the world cup final." one MCG stadium director said.

Proponents of the expansion of the new Melbourne Victory Stadium to host world cup matches have stressed the vital legacy a dedicated football stadium (of a rectangular nature) would provide this growing australian sport.

OZ 2018 bid officials were not available for comment after the presentation.

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http://www.subiacooval.com.au/gfx/3D_Stadium-V6.swf

Overview

The redevelopment of Subiaco Oval creates an opportunity to provide, upon completion, a unified stadium with a contemporary design reflecting the dynamics of sport and entertainment on one hand and acting as a significant piece of civic architecture on the other. It is also a cost-effective option for the State and Federal Governments and the WAFC to establish a world-class stadium with multi-purpose capabilities.

The WAFC's strategy is to use and build upon the $108 million of existing infrastructure at Subiaco Oval rather than make this huge financial and social investment redundant. The infrastructure on the site can be intelligently expanded and redeveloped to create a state-of-the-art stadium, providing a more sustainable economic and social benefit for Western Australia.

Families and sports lovers are the big winners in the full proposed redevelopment with the number of seats available to them increasing by more than 15,000, while corporate seats increase by just over 1,000.

The redevelopment will enable Subiaco Oval to meet the immediate and future demand from Western Australian families for more tickets to football, other major sporting events and enable Perth to host the best in international live entertainment. The redeveloped Subiaco Oval will be a family's stadium.

The WAFC's vision is to redevelop Subiaco Oval in a way that significantly increases the use of public transport by spectators through new rail, bus and parking strategies. A new entry plaza to the north of the stadium will have direct links to the public transport system. The dispersal of spectators from the railway stations to the plaza and around the stadium will provide an efficient system of distributing patrons and minimising their impact on nearby residents.

The end result of the redevelopment vision will be:

   * A redevelopment to reach an ultimate capacity of 60,000 seats that can be staged to match growing public demand

   * Increased public, particularly family, seating with improved seat spacing and sightlines

   * Entertainment and multi-sports capabilities for AFL football, cricket, athletics, rugby, soccer, concerts and other live entertainment

   * Construction of a 'civic' structure. Subiaco Oval will become a centrepiece of an urban revitalisation project for the surrounding precinct which offers significant economic and social benefits for Western Australia. Opportunities exist for sinking the railway line and for mixed urban development of adjacent commercial and residential areas

   * A construction process that will allow sporting and other events to continue at Subiaco Oval during the redevelopment

   * A design that integrates and upgrades existing stands with brand new state-of-the-art facilities

   * A stadium that takes the redeveloped MCG as its benchmark for design, particularly in areas like wider seat spacing, improved disabled access, enhanced sightlines, back-of-house space, purpose built catering outlets and function rooms, superior quality rest rooms, enhanced access such as escalators and lifts, high quality fittings and finishes and improved safety and security provisions

   * A northern focused entry to the stadium that increases access to and from public transport and reduces the impact on Subiaco Oval's neighbours

   * An anchor tenant in the form of the AFL that will ensure the financial sustainability of the stadium - the WAFC will remain as leaseholder and manager

   * User Agreements that provide certainty of terms and conditions for other sports and activities at Subiaco Oval

   * Modern technology, such as communications and broadcast infrastructure

The redevelopment will use the high aesthetic standards of other recent stadiums, such as the MCG, the Gabba and the Telstra Dome, as the benchmark from which to create its own style and ambience. As the lead architect in the design and redevelopment of those stadiums, Daryl Jackson brings with him a wealth of experience in stadium design. The engagement of Peter Hunt and Daryl Jackson Architects to prepare this redevelopment Masterplan and concept design underpins the WAFC's commitment of providing a new state-of-the-art multi-purpose stadium in Western Australia.

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The MCG hosted an Australia vs Greece friendly last week with a capacity 98,000 strong making their way to the ground, a signal that it is suitable for football/soccer.

Note also, there are many stadiums that include athletics tracks around the pitch that are allowed for international matches by FIFA. This is just simply replacing the surface with grass.

Note: The two Perth plans you propose are alternate. The Chinese looking design is planned for Cockburn (pronounced Co-burn) located about 40km south of Perth though along commuter train lines. The other is a plan propsed by the WAFC to develope the existing Subiaco Oval (which is an absolutly **** plan). Work on one of the stadiums will begin late next year (or on a different plan if it is presented by the end of September).

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The eight stadia that have cleared the first hurdle are as follows:

1. Suncorp Stadium, Brisbane

2. Telstra Stadium, Sydney

3. Telstra Dome, Melbourne

4. Energy Australia Stadium, Newcastle

5.Canberra Stadium, Canberra

6. Aussie Stadium, Sydney

7. Eden Park, Auckland

8. Stadium Western Australia, Perth

The inclusion of Eden Park, which is set to undergo a multi million dollar expansion into a 65,000 all seater for the 2011 rugby world cup, has infuriated many australian soccer officials.

Mo rush however responded saying: "This world cup is the world cup of Oceania, although under the name OZ 2018, we hope to include New Zealand, which will provide a world class venue for matches in the opening rounds. At this stage no venue in Tasmania has met the standards in the first phase of this inspection, but like other stadia that have not cleared the first hurdle, we cannot rule out that a sustainable world class football venue presented to the bid committee would or would not be included in the final set of stadia."

So why not just call it the Anzac bid?

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1) may a say the idea to host a match in auckland doesn't fit in the australian bid?

2)i like the logo but it says nothing more than: "it's football" and "if you know that the colours of the socceroos are green and yellow-->it's in australia"

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only one stadium in NZ might might be used. we are still in negotiations. one stadium does not entitlte NZ to have its name included.

One stadium gives New Zealand a far greater entitlement than none. If this is the World Cup of Oceania, why not submit a fully joint bid?

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