Sir Rols Posted July 19 Report Share Posted July 19 12 minutes ago, BigVic said: A Rhine-Rhur bid in 2032 similar to Victoria 2026 lost out to Brisbane 2032 It was never given a chance to develop or even take shape amidst the unseemly haste to award 2032. Considering Germany’s, and the Ruhr region’s in particular, dense population and extensive infrastructure and transport links, I think that’s one regional bid that could be viable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gonzo Posted July 19 Report Share Posted July 19 LOL @ The West Australian 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Australian Kiwi Posted July 19 Report Share Posted July 19 Congrats - you posted only front pages from Murdoch owned Australian tabloids . People like you are the reason the Liberal Party and the Coalition is in indefinite Opposition. You're crackpots. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gonzo Posted July 19 Report Share Posted July 19 The West Australian is not owned by Murdoch 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Australian Kiwi Posted July 19 Report Share Posted July 19 31 minutes ago, Sir Rols said: It was never given a chance to develop or even take shape amidst the unseemly haste to award 2032. Considering Germany’s, and the Ruhr region’s in particular, dense population and extensive infrastructure and transport links, I think that’s one regional bid that could be viable. Yes and despite its name 2032 is still a regionally dispersed Games (far more so than 2000). I hope they are learning from the 2026 challenges. Ultimately multiple host cities = duplicated costs . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Australian Kiwi Posted July 19 Report Share Posted July 19 1 minute ago, Gonzo said: The West Australian is not owned by Murdoch Its still a tabloid. All pictures and simplified news stories for uneducated dummies like you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Rols Posted July 19 Report Share Posted July 19 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Gonzo said: The West Australian is not owned by Murdoch Lol! Yeah, Stokes is such a paragon of civic virtue and impartiality Edited July 19 by Sir Rols Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gonzo Posted July 19 Report Share Posted July 19 Yes yes everything is all right wing cooker LNP conspiracy MURDOCH MURDOCH MURDOCH! Anyways.... Andrews put his foot in it in his press conference just now contradicting himself from yesterday stating that events could not be moved to Melbourne because the CGF signed a host city contract with Regional Victoria, despite the fact the CGF/CGA told them to cut costs and use Melbourne venues. Dude can't get his lies straight 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexjc Posted July 19 Report Share Posted July 19 Here in NZ all morning in the sports sections of news and talk shows it was shock as well as crazy ideas from the likes of Christchurch. (although the idea of spreading it nationwide would kind of work as everything is there) Already the govt has said no... simply because of the short lead in time. February or March 2026. Te Kaha stadium won't be finished until April 26 and the massive pool and indoor sports centre is struggling to even find someone to finish building it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Rols Posted July 19 Report Share Posted July 19 41 minutes ago, Gonzo said: Yes yes everything is all right wing cooker LNP conspiracy MURDOCH MURDOCH MURDOCH! When it comes to any discussion of anything done by a Labor govt in Oz, it usually is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Rols Posted July 19 Report Share Posted July 19 2 hours ago, Australian Kiwi said: Yes and despite its name 2032 is still a regionally dispersed Games (far more so than 2000). I think that’s been a bit overstated, though. It’s certainly ended up more Brisbane-centric than I initially thought or as it was originally conceived. I actually think Paris 2024 is far more regional in practice than Brisbane 2032 is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Australian Kiwi Posted July 19 Report Share Posted July 19 58 minutes ago, Gonzo said: Andrews put his foot in it in his press conference just now contradicting himself from yesterday stating that events could not be moved to Melbourne because the CGF signed a host city contract with Regional Victoria, despite the fact the CGF/CGA told them to cut costs and use Melbourne venues. Dude can't get his lies straight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Australian Kiwi Posted July 19 Report Share Posted July 19 2 hours ago, Gonzo said: The West Australian is not owned by Murdoch BETOOTA ADVOCATE Man Whose Entire Identity Based On Hatred Of Dictator Dan Pretends To Give A **** About Comm Games Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Australian Kiwi Posted July 19 Report Share Posted July 19 However, as an untouchable Labor leader, whose only political opponents seem to be an absolutely broken Liberal Party plagued by conspiracist fundamental Christians – Dan Andrews’ decision to scrap the Commonwealth games has managed to upset a whole range of people who would traditionally not really be too interested in watching Canada win track and field events because Jamaica hasn’t even sent their best athletes. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nacre Posted July 19 Report Share Posted July 19 (edited) 48 minutes ago, Alexjc said: Here in NZ all morning in the sports sections of news and talk shows it was shock as well as crazy ideas from the likes of Christchurch. (although the idea of spreading it nationwide would kind of work as everything is there) I don't understand how anyone who has actually worked at or even volunteered at one of these events could think that it's a good idea to spread things around a huge area. Managing the logistics of a major event in a single city can be tough. You would presumably need a small fleet of helicopters and executive cars on standby to move everyone around an entire country like New Zealand. Edited July 19 by Nacre Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myki Posted July 19 Report Share Posted July 19 As per the GamesBids story, potential now for Ahmedabad to host, and also then could use 2026 as a test case to show the IOC "yep we can hold a 2036/2040 Olympics here". Would be good to mix it up as well rather than just rotating between many Australia, Canada, New Zealand and UK cities. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Australian Kiwi Posted July 19 Report Share Posted July 19 2 hours ago, Nacre said: I don't understand how anyone who has actually worked at or even volunteered at one of these events could think that it's a good idea to spread things around a huge area. Managing the logistics of a major event in a single city can be tough. You would presumably need a small fleet of helicopters and executive cars on standby to move everyone around an entire country like New Zealand. Exactly. If it didn't work in an arc of cities within a few hours of Melbourne it has no chance across NZ (where their regional transport networks are very undeveloped compared to Australia's - they don't even have proper commuter passenger rail connecting cities). The regional model is as cooked as much as the CGs are. I bet the IOC is watching this closely in defining how "new regions" can host - or even countries. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Australian Kiwi Posted July 19 Report Share Posted July 19 I have from a very reliable source in Geelong that this came from a draft kit of parts , i dont know whether this was the concept for the logo or in part but understand that the briefing was strong around the games being known as 'VIC26'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RooBlu Posted July 19 Report Share Posted July 19 On 7/19/2023 at 12:43 AM, Alexjc said: I'm under the impression that Adelaide or Perth could start talking now that the initial shock has passed...and the embarrassing situation of what is one of the wealthiest countries in the world doesn't necessarily have a bottomless pit of money. I doubt that any city in Australia could salvage this by 2026 with possible exception of Melbourne. We are well under 3 years and the deadline for planning, building and everything else to coordinate a games is too tight. As the timelines get tighter the costs would escalate as builders are already in short supply and able to name their prices. The housing construction crisis here in Australia is probably the proverbial canary in the cage ATM. i actually do believe Dan Andrews in saying that the original costs projection of $2.6 bil for the 2026 games did escalate. The costs of hiring a huge fleet of busses from around Oz at relatively short notice, the unforseen decontamination costs for the Ballarat village site, the cost increases associated with building materials, energy and inflation, the wider shortage of tradesmen, and the broader short deadlines would escalate costs as businesses would be setting aside other work in order to prioritise to games. Yes $2.6 bil was probably wildly optimistic to begin with. Perhaps the starting figure to put the games together with 4 years notice should have been $4 bil. The government started putting out tenders from October last year, and I reckon that quickly it became increasingly obvious from the responses that the budget was too small, forcing the orgnisers to recalculate their real estimates and concluding that the real cost of the games would blow out upwards of $4-5 bil once the running costs were factored in. The other fact is that the games were being organised by a new government department and not a commercial organising corporation whose charter would have included a strict budget and a focus toward profit and marketing from the outset. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gonzo Posted July 19 Report Share Posted July 19 So all of Dan's lies are starting to be exposed LIE - "The CGF came to us begging us to bid" https://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/victoria/commonwealth-games-cancellation-triggers-political-shockwaves-through-victoria/news-story/525802a92160b1f753feb8a74e3321ee Quote the state went to extraordinary lengths to secure the event, with a Visit Victoria team proposing a regional Games in person to the Commonwealth Games Federation president Dame Louise Livingstone Martin in December 2021. This was before it had even held talks with Commonwealth Games Australia, and three months ahead of Mr Andrews publicly announcing Victoria wanted to host the 2026 Games. EXPOSED - Andrews has form cancelling world class events https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/commonwealth-games/victorian-government-pulled-plug-on-15-million-deal-to-host-2025-beach-volleyball-world-titles/news-story/005f5ceb7db798ed3c56caebf3c7d1e7 Quote Volleyball Australia president Craig Carracher has revealed the Victorian Government cancelled a commitment to host the 2025 beach volleyball world titles last October – claiming they pulled the pin just two weeks after agreeing to a deal worth $15 million. Events was supposed to be a Test Event for the 2026 Comm Games, so raises more questions that the 2026 Comm Games were already on the chopping block An Andrews Govt own commissioned report in 2019 said that a Regional Victoria games would 'not be viable' until at least 2034 https://www.theaustralian.com.au/nation/politics/2034-best-commonwealth-games-cost-blowout-warning-in2019/news-story/ca74946b1f57b269a36124c2c7733b11 Even yesterday he was still pushing the lie that Victoria was the only bidder Ummmmm .... https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-02-10/tasmania-2026-commonwealth-games-bid/100820148 CGF/CGA got conned by the Vic Gov lies, took their word on face value otherwise we should be looking forward to Tasmania 2026 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Australian Kiwi Posted July 20 Report Share Posted July 20 Herald Sun is not a news source champ. Its just a propaganda rag. You're clearly not very well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gonzo Posted July 20 Report Share Posted July 20 Such a pissweak comeback ignoring the reality of the situation The Cult of Dan is a true metal illness Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gonzo Posted July 20 Report Share Posted July 20 HA! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Australian Kiwi Posted July 20 Report Share Posted July 20 8 hours ago, Gonzo said: Such a pissweak comeback ignoring the reality of the situation The Cult of Dan is a true metal illness Cult of Dan? What gave you that idea? For the record, I think his time is up and it has been for a while. I personally don't like his brand of politics. But the majority electorate clearly feels differently - and this was represented in the results of the State Election barely 6 months ago. I'm not in any Cult of Dan - but you are objectively fixated on him and unwell. Amounting the problems Victoria faces (and Australia's system of federalism generally) into the simplistic terms of a "dictator" demonstrates you lack critical thinking and haven't coped well with the last few years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotguy II Posted July 20 Report Share Posted July 20 Gold Coast has offered to host the games... https://www.bbc.com/sport/commonwealth-games/66255262 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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