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1 hour ago, Michelle said:

You might hate him. But he was democratically elected and seemingly has a plurality of the votes. As head of state he has the right to open these games! The end! 

Doesn't mean I can't wish him not well thoughts.  Please DON'T try to control my feelings and reactions.  They are NOT yours - OK?  

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12 hours ago, baron-pierreIV said:

Doesn't mean I can't wish him not well thoughts.  Please DON'T try to control my feelings and reactions.  They are NOT yours - OK?  

Facts don’t care about your feelings! 

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Many dictators have come to power through democratic elections. There is one obvious example that also opened an Olympics.

The fact that an insurrectionist and convicted felon could first run and then actually win such an election also speaks volumes about the election system and the people who voted for him.

I have zero respect for anyone who supports that horrible person and his cronies after all we know about him.

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5 hours ago, StefanMUC said:

Many dictators have come to power through democratic elections. There is one obvious example that also opened an Olympics.

The fact that an insurrectionist and convicted felon could first run and then actually win such an election also speaks volumes about the election system and the people who voted for him.

I have zero respect for anyone who supports that horrible person and his cronies after all we know about him.

Thing is, you don’t have to respect him. He doesn’t much care I’d have thought. However, he will still become the U.S. president and others won’t be as fortunate as you … others will have to deal with him. He is about to become the most important world leader!

Selective outrage is lamentable. But I’m honestly not surprised by anything I’ve read so far. 

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38 minutes ago, Michelle said:

Thing is, you don’t have to respect him. He doesn’t much care I’d have thought. However, he will still become the U.S. president and others won’t be as fortunate as you … others will have to deal with him. He is about to become the most important world leader!

Selective outrage is lamentable. But I’m honestly not surprised by anything I’ve read so far. 

Alright, let's take some emotion out of this and try to look at it a little more objectively.  Yes, Trump won a fair election and will rightfully take his place in the White House come January.  And assuming he is still president come July of 2028 (he'll be 82 years old by then, so it's far from implausible the GOP would try to push him out), then yes, he'll presumably open the games and I'm sure he'll want that attention from the world.

It is worth remembering that California overwhelmingly voted for Harris, currently more than 7 million votes to 4.7 million for Trump.  And Los Angeles country went for Harris by a nearly 2 to 1 margin.  Who knows what his popularity level is by then, in contrast to Clinton in 1996 or Reagan in 1984.  Bush in 2002 is a different story given the state of the country at the time post-9/11.

I heard plenty of people on social media express concerns about the United States over our gun laws.  Some are afraid to travel here because they might get shot.  I don't think Trump is going to help that perception.  We know how friendly he is with Putin, who of course is persona non grata with the Olympics these days.  How will Ukrainian athletes feel about seeing Trump welcoming them to the Olympics?  How about Haiti, after Trump demonized them with lies about what is going on in Springfield.  We know his feelings about immigrants (no, not "illegal immigrants".. he says that to keep it clean, but his feelings on foreigners are well known), so what happens if he enacts policy making it different for people from certain nations to have a harder path to getting to the United States?

You can say this is all hyperbole and maybe some of it is, but it does bring into question how welcome the rest of the world will be in a country led by Donald Trump.  You can't compare this to China 2008 (although maybe we should compare it to China 2022).  There could potentially be a pretty stark contrast in how the rest of the world perceives the United States with Trump as POTUS versus if Harris had won.  Because we've seen countries and their leadership use major sporting events as political platforms.  I could absolutely see Trump going down that route in a way that doesn't go over so well with the rest of the world.

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1 hour ago, Michelle said:

Thing is, you don’t have to respect him. He doesn’t much care I’d have thought. However, he will still become the U.S. president and others won’t be as fortunate as you … others will have to deal with him. He is about to become the most important world leader!

Selective outrage is lamentable. But I’m honestly not surprised by anything I’ve read so far. 

FWIW: You can very well find ny thoughts on Xina 2022 in this forum. Or Orbán, Putin or any other proto-fascist leader of the day.

Selective outrage my a**
 

Nobody will be “fortunate”. We in Europe will have to deal with the terrible consequences of that foolish and terrible election just as well in the coming years. And the most important world leaders will be Putin and Musk while Orange and his VP are just their puppets.

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I'm not going to defend Trump, I think he's a piece of ****, and the fact that after attempting a coup, 4 years later the American counter-powers failed (it's not normal that he's still free and not in prison after January 6) and that behind a majority of American voters chose, in a free and democratic election, to put him back as president, makes me say above all that this country is screwed; and it's also normal that he opens the 2028 Olympic Games, that's after all what the Americans chose.

But I would like to add this, however: yes, Ukrainian athletes are not going to like seeing Trump open the games, the same for the Haitians, etc. And tens of millions of Westerners would have much preferred to see an America led by Harris than an America led by Trump. But let's not forget that there are countries that prefer Trump to Harris, and not necessarily the ones you're thinking of. For example, you might be surprised at the positive image Trump has for an American president in the Middle East and beyond. I'll take one example among others, but I know a lot of Moroccans who really appreciate Trump for what he did on the Western Sahara, and I'm sure that millions of Moroccans think the same thing as those I know on this point.

Do you think that Yemeni athletes would prefer to have a president from the Democratic Party, whose hypocrisy is well-known on everything related to the Middle East, or a president like Trump who, despite all the bad things people might think about him (and I will never defend him and the Republican Party), has still kept his word on America's military disengagement from this region of the world? (in any case, much more than previous administrations)

We must not forget that we are only a minority of this planet, and that out of the 8 billion people who make it up, the United States is probably the most hated country in the world (maybe with Israel ?). That they are led by Harris, in my opinion, will not make them less hated than if they are led by Trump.

Now, for Europe, it will perhaps finally wake up for good, and that some important European countries stop putting themselves under American tutelage. Thank God, I am part of the most independent European country, so the coming years will be a little less hard for me, French, than for the Germans, but if the election of Trump could really push us to become truly independent and become important on the international scene again (but it will take much longer than a 2nd term of Trump), then it will be a small consolation prize.

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9 hours ago, sebastien1214 said:

I'm not going to defend Trump, I think he's a piece of ****, and the fact that after attempting a coup, 4 years later the American counter-powers failed (it's not normal that he's still free and not in prison after January 6) and that behind a majority of American voters chose, in a free and democratic election, to put him back as president, makes me say above all that this country is screwed; and it's also normal that he opens the 2028 Olympic Games, that's after all what the Americans chose.

Correction: a plurarity only -- not a majority . . .  not even by 25% or 33%.  I think if they outlined to him what is expected of him and that he will be a mere prop in the whole 4-hour spectacle, I think he will decline.  In Trump 1, not once did he attend the Kennedy Center honors--attended normally by all past presidents -- because it was NOT about him.  (And afraid that he would get booed by the normally more Democratic artistic community and their supporters.) 

Ham "actor" that he is, I don't see how they can constrain him to sit through 4 hours without him espousing his views.  We'll see how they will corral him to appear in United 2026.  I guess he might appear in the first Team USA game -- and like Hitler reacted when Jesse Owens won, walked out of the stadium before Jesse Owens received his medal.  That's what the Orange Drumpf would absolutely do if Team USA loses a game that he shows up for.  "He hates losers!" 

But, frankly, who cares?  Good riddance to bad garbage.  

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6 hours ago, baron-pierreIV said:

Correction: a plurarity only -- not a majority . . .  not even by 25% or 33%.  I think if they outlined to him what is expected of him and that he will be a mere prop in the whole 4-hour spectacle, I think he will decline.  In Trump 1, not once did he attend the Kennedy Center honors--attended normally by all past presidents -- because it was NOT about him.  (And afraid that he would get booed by the normally more Democratic artistic community and their supporters.) 

Ham "actor" that he is, I don't see how they can constrain him to sit through 4 hours without him espousing his views.  We'll see how they will corral him to appear in United 2026.  I guess he might appear in the first Team USA game -- and like Hitler reacted when Jesse Owens won, walked out of the stadium before Jesse Owens received his medal.  That's what the Orange Drumpf would absolutely do if Team USA loses a game that he shows up for.  "He hates losers!" 

But, frankly, who cares?  Good riddance to bad garbage.  

Good call about Kennedy Center.  Typical Trump that he wouldn't want to be at an event like that.  But this is the Olympics.  The entire world will be paying attention.  World leaders will be in Los Angeles.  He won't miss that opportunity to preen for the cameras and potentially pick and choose who is sitting next to him in front of the world.  I don't imagine he'll stick around for much else other than the opening ceremony, but he'll stomach being in LA long enough to be a part of that one.

The World Cup he'll probably skip since that's not as centralized and it is not only the United States hosting.  That's less of a photo op unless he wants to show up at the final, but since that's in NY/NJ, will he be that interested in showing up here?

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35 minutes ago, Quaker2001 said:

Good call about Kennedy Center.  Typical Trump that he wouldn't want to be at an event like that.  But this is the Olympics.  The entire world will be paying attention.  World leaders will be in Los Angeles.  He won't miss that opportunity to preen for the cameras and potentially pick and choose who is sitting next to him in front of the world.  I don't imagine he'll stick around for much else other than the opening ceremony, but he'll stomach being in LA long enough to be a part of that one.

Altho of course, since the OGs happen between the 2 major party conventions -- and he calms down and accepts that this is his last turn, sending Vance in his place (if that is still the situation) would be the first step in elevating Vance to "senior statesman" status if Vance will then be crowned in the GOP Convention following the OGs, as their 2028 standard bearer 

But if Vance has fallen from grace -- donOLD, petty gargoyle that he is, will purposely show up at the Olympics just to consign Vance to the gimps and the broken (in his depraved book), to preside over the Paralympic Opening. 

(What did we do to deserve such an ASS!?!) 

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This just in:

Exclusive: “Your games, my choice” - Agenda 28 set to change face of LA Olympics

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The new face of LA 2028: The Olympic mascot

 

Washington DC, November 15 2024 (NTONN): Following an intensive inquiry by its team of investigative reporters, Not The Olympic News Network can reveal the existence of “Agenda 28”, a clandestine strategy document set to radically overhaul planning and preparations for the upcoming 2028 Olympic Games in Los Angeles.

Prepared by a team of President-elect Trump loyalists led by son, Barron, the 2,028-page document outlines an extraordinary series of measures to be implemented to reshape the existing  “woke” games preparations immediately upon the inauguration of Trump to the White House in coming January.

Leaked to NTONN by an inside informant, Melanie T*, Agenda 28 represents the biggest overhaul of Olympic protocols and procedures since the infamous Agenda 36 adopted by Josef Goebbels ahead of the Berlin Olympics.

The overhaul will commence with the immediate dismissal of current LA 28 Games chief Casey Wasserman, who will be replaced in the role by US Congresswoman Marjorie Taylor Greene.

Greene will oversee a new organising committee board, which will comprise Trump loyalists including Stephan Bannon, Rudi Giuliani, Donald Jr and Eric Trump and Joe Rogan.

The document then goes beyond games governance matters to outline a series of measures designed for “make the Olympic Games great again”.

These include:

  • The Games themselves will not be opened by President Trump. Instead, this honour will be delegated to the Vice-President, J.D. Vance;
  • Trump instead will be designated the final torch bearer, who will light the LA 28 cauldron upon being transported into the Olympic Stadium at the climax of the ceremony upon a SpaceX provided by confidante Elon Musk;
  • The cauldron itself will re-introduce live cremations, a tradition abandoned since Seoul 1988. In LA’s case, the cauldron will contain Hillary Clinton, Kamala Harris and Taylor Swift all bound on stakes, as well as “other feminazis and a bunch of cats”;
  • The Olympic Hymn will be sung by the Proud Boys choir. It’s undecided yet whether the traditional hymn will be replaced by the Horst Wessel Lied;
  • In addition, instead of Federal and State security personnel, who the document states are “untrustworthy Deep State stooges”, security for the entire Games will be overseen by the Proud Boys;
  • A member of the Olympics website forum GamesBids.com, Olympics2028, is to be appointed artistic director for all the LA 28 ceremonies;
  • The Games graphic and “Look” elements will be redesigned around a new signature Games colour, orange. The Games will also introduce the first “live” mascot since LA 1932’s Smoky the dog, with the MAGA Shaman of January 6 2020 fame taking the role.
  • A number of sporting venues are to be re-assigned. Chiefly golf, reintroduced to the Olympics in Rio, will be relocated to the course at Mar-a-Lago. President Trump is to be automatically qualified to lead the US golf team in competition.
  • Invitations to compete at the Games will not be extended to China or other “weak and nasty allies and Third World sh!!tholes”. Conversely, Russia will be welcomed back into the Olympic fold, with Russian leader Vladimir Putin expected to join such world leaders as Kim Jong Un and Viktor Orban at the opening ceremony.

NTONN reached out for comment from the Trump transitional team. In reply, we received a Tweet on X saying “i  KNOW YOUR IDENTITIES AND ADDRESSES YOU NASTY COVFEFE F***s!”.

When contacted for comment while he was inspecting retirement mansions in Doha, IOC President Thomas Bach told NTONN: “Zis vill not be mein problem. Kirsty vill deal with it. Or zat sheisskopf Coe if he gets the numbers.”

The chief deity of the Olympic pantheon, Zeus, is believed to be on extended vacation at Mar-a-Lago.

* name charmed to protect identity

(c) 2024 Not The Olympic News Network

 

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You forgot about anti-vaxxer RFK Jr being put in charge of the anti-doping lab, and Trump himself opening the Paralympics with an Impressions Show, but apart from that a masterful summary of what we can expect.

GBMod will need to go some to beat that with his next April Fool.

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