COC agrees to join Vancouver 2030 indigenous-led Olympic bid assessment

[GBModerator]

The Canadian Olympic Committee (COC) Tuesday added its signature to a collaboration agreement among four First Nations in British Columbia, the City of Vancouver and the Municipality of Whistler to jointly conduct a privately funded feasibility study on hosting the 2030 Olympic and Paralympic Winter Games. By joining the agreement first signed by stakeholders in […]

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[stryker]

It's an interesting concept but I just don't see enough public support for this to go beyond the drawing board. Between the aftermath of the pandemic, wildfires, and a slow economic recovery, this looks DOA

[FYI]

Interesting, but I still wanna know WHY, besides just a generic "we won't support you" excuse, the COC flat-out rejected Quebec City for a winter Olympic bid, when Quebec appeared, at least at the very beginning, so gung-ho.

[Faster]

It would require either using New York state or Alberta/BC to host. Also their is no sliding center there (unless you again use New York), there is a fully functioning one in BC and one that requires about 80-100 million in work in Calgary. For the sake of where Canadian winter athletes come from, yea Quebec would be a wonderful host. But from the physical and practical standpoint its a non-starter. 21/109 events staged at Lake Placid is not something the COC, the Government of Canada or Quebec would support.

Edited February 1, 2022 by Faster

[SportLightning]

that's seems like possible for the Canadian and British Columbia government to support the Vancouver 2030 bid.

[FYI]

Well, proposing to share events where need be, is what "agenda 2020/new norm" is suppose to be about. So I would think the respective NOC & gov't's would be onboard in order to accommodate a main host city that can't do it all & spread the Olympic vision. As far as the sliding venue is concerned, why not propose a new one for the East Coast of Canada, since the one in Calgary needs so much work TBW. There's already the one in BC, so no sense for two of them so close together in the same country anyway. 

[Chris_Mex]

17 hours ago, GBModerator said:

The Canadian Olympic Committee (COC) Tuesday added its signature to a collaboration agreement among four First Nations in British Columbia, the City of Vancouver and the Municipality of Whistler to jointly conduct a privately funded feasibility study on hosting the 2030 Olympic and Paralympic Winter Games. By joining the agreement first signed by stakeholders in […]

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Canada didn't want to refurbish 2 soccer stadiums for world cup 2026 because it was "too expensive", how will they convince government to refurbish all stadium required to host the olympics again?

[rio2016man]

North America hasn’t had Winter Games since 2010 Going into 2030 last four will have been Europe 2X and Asia 2X

[baron-pierreIV]

On 2/2/2022 at 1:38 AM, Chris_Mex said:

Canada didn't want to refurbish 2 soccer stadiums for world cup 2026 because it was "too expensive", how will they convince government to refurbish all stadium required to host the olympics again?

It wasn't just "refurbishment of 2 stadia."  FIFA was asking for a lot more, like setting up 2 large parks for free public viewing, etc., etc.  Vancouver will just need a new stadium for Ceremonies.  Everything else is already there.  

[stryker]

3 hours ago, baron-pierreIV said:

It wasn't just "refurbishment of 2 stadia."  FIFA was asking for a lot more, like setting up 2 large parks for free public viewing, etc., etc.  Vancouver will just need a new stadium for Ceremonies.  Everything else is already there.  

Why would Vancouver need a new stadium when BC Place just got a renovation complete with a retractable roof? If the Vancouver Whitecaps can't get an MLS stadium built then there's no chance whatsoever of Vancouver constructing a new stadium for ceremonies.

[Nacre]

The problem with Vancouver hosting the World Cup wasn't the stadium, but the blank check FIFA requires to cover things like security costs. It's the same reason that Chicago declined to host despite having Soldier Field.

[SportLightning]

On 2/2/2022 at 1:38 AM, Chris_Mex said:

Canada didn't want to refurbish 2 soccer stadiums for world cup 2026 because it was "too expensive", how will they convince government to refurbish all stadium required to host the olympics again?

I don't know, but it seems possible for Vancouver as a FIFAWorld Cup 2026 venue as it did with the FIFA Women's World Cup 2015.

[StefanMUC]

27 minutes ago, SportLightning said:

I don't know, but it seems possible for Vancouver as a FIFAWorld Cup 2026 venue as it did with the FIFA Women's World Cup 2015.

Given that Vancouver was already cut from the list, I do know that it's not possible.

 

[AliciasBlade]

I really want this bid to die down. Why have the WOGs in Canada when theres SOGs?

[munichfan]

2 hours ago, AliciasBlade said:

I really want this bid to die down. Why have the WOGs in Canada when theres SOGs?

Canada does offer a perfectly ready winter games host. Organizing a Summer Olympics would be way more pricy and difficult to find public and political support.

That said, the 2038/40 cycle is probably the earliest Canada stands a reasonable chance to host again, anyway.

[StefanMUC]

There‘s also much more (potential) competition for Summer Olympics, Winter is a pretty low hanging fruit these days really.

[Nacre]

16 hours ago, AliciasBlade said:

I really want this bid to die down. Why have the WOGs in Canada when theres SOGs?

1. Canada is much better at winter sports than summer sports.
2. Canada has a city well-positioned to host the winter games, whereas Montreal would need massive renovations of older facilities and would need to build new projects to host another summer games. And while Toronto's 2015 Pan-American Games were very sensible, they unfortunately did not provide much of value for a future Olympic bid.
3. There is much less competition to host the winter Olympics, so there is a very good chance that a winter bid would be successful.
4. There is more to gain economically from the winter games because they do not displace normal summer tourists and attract more visitors during the worst month of the year for hotels (February). Vancouver gained tourists from hosting its 2010 games, whereas most summer host cities actually LOSE tourists the year they host the Olympics. Since Sydney, I think the only host to gain more tourists the year of their games was Rio, which also hosted their summer games in South America's winter. It would be hard to sell Montreal or Toronto on spending billions for the sake of actually losing tourists that year.
5. The winter games are smaller and thus cheaper overall, unless you plan to build a new city from scratch like Russia did.

[Faster]

Yep, be a lot easier for Canada to get behind a winter bid and with 2 anglophone summer hots in the near future another anglo host is not that interesting. I'd love Toronto to host, and think Toronto hosting on their own terms could be a very good thing for the city. But not gonna happen. Vancouver/Calgary are the best options. I honestly would prefer Calgary. But its not likely right now.

[SportLightning]

Toronto isn't gonna happen even though they hosted the 2015 Pan Am Games before.

[Kenadian]

On 2/2/2022 at 10:30 PM, rio2016man said:

North America hasn’t had Winter Games since 2010 Going into 2030 last four will have been Europe 2X and Asia 2X

Yes, but North America only has two countries that can host the Winter Games - the USA and Canada. Sorry, Mexico and Cuba. And even in those two countries, there are really only four regions that have the required mountains, weather conditions, population bases, and winter sport infrastructure/culture: Western United States, Western Canada, Alaska, North Eastern USA (Adirondacks-New England).

You won't see winter games in Texas, Ontario, Virginia, Minnesota, or Nova Scotia.

[Faster]

20 years is also the longest North America has waited between hosts. And even then it should have been 16.