The Next IOC President

[BigVic]

57 minutes ago, hektor said:

I would suggest Kirsty Coventry

Would be the best choice. No to Samaranch Jnr. Lord Coe is too old 

[Michelle]

2 hours ago, BigVic said:

Would be the best choice. No to Samaranch Jnr. Lord Coe is too old 

Not sold on KC. Actually not at all. As for Coe being too old, I hear you. However he weirdly presents himself as being younger than he is … I hadn’t realised he was knocking on door of 70. Good genes. 

[Sir Rols]

3 hours ago, Michelle said:

Not sold on KC. Actually not at all. As for Coe being too old, I hear you. However he weirdly presents himself as being younger than he is … I hadn’t realised he was knocking on door of 70. Good genes. 

Can’t see the hype for her either. I’ve seen no indication she’s actually been good at anything in her post-swimming career. And there was a news item piece last year speculating she was losing a lot of support and momentum within IOC ranks. I’m thinking Hoevertsz is the more likely contender of the female candidates.

[baron-pierreIV]

14 minutes ago, Sir Rols said:

Can’t see the hype for her either. I’ve seen no indication she’s actually been good at anything in her post-swimming career. And there was a news item piece last year speculating she was losing a lot of support and momentum within IOC ranks. I’m thinking Hoevertsz is the more likely contender of the female candidates.

Who is Hoevertsz?  

[Sir Rols]

1 minute ago, baron-pierreIV said:

Who is Hoevertsz?  

Member of the Executive Board (2017-) and IOC Vice-President (2021-); Chair of the Coordination Commission for the Games of the XXXIV Olympiad Los Angeles 2028 (2019-); Member of the following Commissions: Women and Sport (2003-2015), International Relations (2009-2015), Coordination for the Games of the XXXI Olympiad Rio 2016 (2010-2016), Coordination for the Games of the XXXII Olympiad Tokyo 2020 (2014-2021), Juridical (2014-2015), Sport and Law (2014-2015), Legal Affairs (2015-), Olympic Solidarity (2015-), Audit Committee (2015-), Coordination for the Games of the XXXIII Olympiad Paris 2024 (2017-); Chair of the IOC Athletes’ Commission Election Committee (2016-)
 

Nicole Hoevertsz

[baron-pierreIV]

/\ Thanks, Rols.  So she's an Artistic Swimmer.  OK, that can't be all bad!!  But she's an Aruban; would she like to reside in Lausanne for what is it -- 6 or 8 years?? 

[Sir Rols]

She’s been on the EB for quite a while now. I expect she already rents a place in Lausanne 

[Bear]

I think Hoevertsz would have a decent chance if she ran, plus it would be a full circle moment for her - she competed at LA84, and the first summer Olympics of her presidency would be LA28.

[StefanMUC]

10 minutes ago, Bear said:

I think Hoevertsz would have a decent chance if she ran, plus it would be a full circle moment for her - she competed at LA84, and the first summer Olympics of her presidency would be LA28.

That's an argument Nawal El Moutawakel can also bring, plus she even did better and won a gold medal in LA 84. And she's a VP, and from Africa, and a Muslim women. Come to think of it, she is ticking so many boxes, it's time to call a BINGO.

 

[Bear]

5 minutes ago, StefanMUC said:

That's an argument Nawal El Moutawakel can also bring, plus she even did better and won a gold medal in LA 84. And she's a VP, and from Africa, and a Muslim women. Come to think of it, she is ticking so many boxes, it's time to call a BINGO.

 

Okay, I'm looking at her IOC page and she definitely has many points going for her from her time as a member as well -

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Member of the Executive Board (2008-2012 and 2020-2023); IOC Vice- President (2012-2016 and 2024-); Chair of the following Commissions: Evaluation for the Games of the XXX Olympiad in 2012 (2004-2005); Evaluation for the Games of the XXXI Olympiad in 2016 (2008-2009); Coordination for the Games of the XXXI Olympiad Rio 2016 (2010-2016); member of the following Commissions: Women and Sport (1995-2010) then (2014- 2015), Doping (working group, 1998), “IOC 2000” (1999), Marketing (2000-2010), Nominations (2000-2013), IOC 2000 Reform Follow-up (2002), Coordination for the Games of the XXX Olympiad London 2012 (2005-2012), International Relations (2008-2015), Radio and Television (2014-2015), Public Affairs and Social Development through Sport (2015-2021), Communications (2015-2021), Public Affairs and Corporate Communications (2022-), Olympism 365 (2022-), Women in Sport (2015-2020), Evaluation for the Games of XXXIII Olympiad in 2024 (2016-2017), Coordination for the Youth Olympic Games Dakar 2026 (2018-); coordination of the Games of the XXXIV Olympiad Los Angeles 2028 (2019-)

I can definitely see her as an incredibly viable candidate.

[baron-pierreIV]

17 minutes ago, StefanMUC said:

That's an argument Nawal El Moutawakel can also bring, plus she even did better and won a gold medal in LA 84. And she's a VP, and from Africa, and a Muslim women. Come to think of it, she is ticking so many boxes, it's time to call a BINGO.

 

Imagine if El Moutawakel gets the IOC presidency after Claudia Sheinbaum assumes the Mexican presidency on October 1, one Kamala Harris becomes Madame US president on November 6 -- that would be the TRIFECTA to give your misogynistic MAGA white males everywhere the perfect excuse for a heart attack!!  

[krow]

3 hours ago, Sir Rols said:

Can’t see the hype for her either. I’ve seen no indication she’s actually been good at anything in her post-swimming career. And there was a news item piece last year speculating she was losing a lot of support and momentum within IOC ranks. I’m thinking Hoevertsz is the more likely contender of the female candidates.

KC would be a disaster. i think it's telling we don't know much about the other women in contention beyond their resumes. no apparent scandals for hoevertsz indicates that she just hasn't been vetted properly by the press yet. because i think we all know they're out there. 

[Michelle]

On 8/15/2024 at 10:14 PM, Sir Rols said:

Can’t see the hype for her either. I’ve seen no indication she’s actually been good at anything in her post-swimming career. And there was a news item piece last year speculating she was losing a lot of support and momentum within IOC ranks. I’m thinking Hoevertsz is the more likely contender of the female candidates.

Completely agree. On all points. 

[Michelle]

Nawal El Moutawakel could actually be what the IOC needs. 

Others have highlighted her demographics; but her successful record in terms of sports administration and her desire to increase women’s participation are laudable. 

While she has undoubtedly faced challenges as a woman in sport, and in her home country, these experiences have largely been transformative. 

The IOC can do a lot worse than electing El Moutawakel their next president. 

[Sir Rols]

Here come the hurdles

IOC rule changes create legal obstacles for Seb Coe’s Olympic bid

[AustralianFan]

Thankyou Tracey Holmes for clearly outlining all that needs to happen in order for Seb Coe to succeed Thomas Bach as IOC President:

 

[cfm Jeremie]

13 hours ago, Sir Rols said:

Here come the hurdles

 

IOC rule changes create legal obstacles for Seb Coe’s Olympic bid

Hmmm. This is misleading. The rule hasn't changed. It is more a matter of the Olympic Charter rules apply to all members, including the President. Having said that, the Charter can always be changed...

[StefanMUC]

15 hours ago, Sir Rols said:

Here come the hurdles

 

IOC rule changes create legal obstacles for Seb Coe’s Olympic bid

Nawal El Moutawakel is the one used to overcome hurdles 

[krow]

new IOC rules create insurmountable legal obstacles for everyone except single, bach-approved candidate. 

[AustralianFan]

Also from the IOC itself re the rules around it’s presidential election next year:
 

 

[sebastien1214]

Ah, Thomas Bach clearly has a new protégé to succeed him. 

https://x.com/franceinfo/status/1834972839130132734

 

[BigVic]

 

Here are some names. Milan-Cortina 2026 will be the first since London 2012 without Fencing 1976

[StefanMUC]

Surprising El Moutawakel is not there.

I know there‘s a considerable „Coe is the best choice“ crowd here, but that‘s hardly significant for IOC members with other interests.

Coventry after all then?

[cfm Jeremie]

I wouldn't count Al Hussein out... He is certainly campaigning hard.

And never ever underestimate Samaranch.

So at this stage, if I had to bet I would say either Conventry, Samaranch or Al Hussein.

[Bear]

Congratulations to future IOC President Kirsty Coventry! 🙂

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Out of the seven, only three are capable of serving the maximum 12 years (one 8 year term + 4 year extension) due to the age limit:

1. HRH Prince Feisal Al Hussein - can serve until 2037 (12 years)
2. Kirsty Coventry - can serve until 2057 (well past the 12 years)
3. David Lappartient - can serve until 2047 (well past the 12 years)

The other four would not be able to serve the full two terms, even with the age extensions:

1. Lord Sebastian Coe - can serve until 2030 (5 years)
2. Johan Eliasch - can serve until 2036 (11 years)
3. Juan Antonio Samaranch - can serve until 2033 (8 years)
4. Morinari Watanabe - can serve until 2033 (8 years)

Furthermore - the following candidates risk being removed from the presidency due to the IOC membership rules:

1. Lord Sebastian Coe - if his term as World Athletics President ends, his IOC membership ceases
2. Johan Eliasch - if his term as FIS President ends, his IOC membership ceases
3. David Lappartient - if his term as UCI President ends, his IOC membership ceases
4. Morinari Watanabe - if his term as FIG President ends, his IOC membership ceases

Taking the age limit and IOC membership rules into consideration, currently the two "safest" candidates are Feisal Al Hussein or Kirsty Coventry. If it goes down to either of the two, I'm inclined to believe that the IOC will go for Coventry. We shall see though once the campaigning starts...