StefanMUC Posted August 11, 2024 Report Posted August 11, 2024 1 hour ago, baron-pierreIV said: Nyet! Too dour and the last thing the IOC needs is another person born of privilege -- not by her merit. Plus she‘s also too old. Why are people throwing names of 75+ aged IOC members in the ring? That‘s seriously not going to happen. Quote
Michelle Posted August 11, 2024 Report Posted August 11, 2024 21 hours ago, StefanMUC said: The next one will likely be a woman that‘s loyal to Bach. So either Hoevertz or more likely Coventry, also as a nod to Africa. Coe is completely isolated and JAS jr…oh well, I don‘t think there‘s much appetite in the IOC given that already Bach was like a son to the Godfather himself. Rogge was a guy with good intentions who failed to deliver, both for lack of courage and for mighty people pulling strings in other directions. Coe is not totally isolated. What utter nonsense. I can’t with this. Show me your source for this, otherwise it’s just you printing words on a forum. Quote
sebastien1214 Posted August 11, 2024 Report Posted August 11, 2024 It's funny, but since Tony Estanguet's speech, I've seen a lot of people (French people, of course) on Twitter making fun of the fact that he will be named Prime Minister (oh yes, by the way, we still don't have a government!!! Macron!!!), but also lots of people who imagine him becoming President of the IOC. Well, I think Sebastian Coe is more legitimate (& has a better CV) than Tony Estanguet to become one. And then above all, he has been waiting much longer than Tony. But wouldn't that be such a crazy idea? Quote
Sir Rols Posted August 11, 2024 Report Posted August 11, 2024 6 minutes ago, sebastien1214 said: It's funny, but since Tony Estanguet's speech, I've seen a lot of people (French people, of course) on Twitter making fun of the fact that he will be named Prime Minister (oh yes, by the way, we still don't have a government!!! Macron!!!), but also lots of people who imagine him becoming President of the IOC. Well, I think Sebastian Coe is more legitimate (& has a better CV) than Tony Estanguet to become one. And then above all, he has been waiting much longer than Tony. But wouldn't that be such a crazy idea? He’ll have to re-join the IOC first. I think he served on the athletes commission for a while, but that stint is over. I think it’s likely he’ll get an invite though. Quote
sebastien1214 Posted August 11, 2024 Report Posted August 11, 2024 3 minutes ago, Sir Rols said: He’ll have to re-join the IOC first. I think he served on the athletes commission for a while, but that stint is over. I think it’s likely he’ll get an invite though. Well, it would be a big anomaly if he were not back at the IOC. Almost a scandal, even, because with what he has managed to accomplish, he is totally legitimate to be an important member of the IOC. (afterwards, becoming president is something else again. Let's not go too fast.) Quote
yoshi Posted August 12, 2024 Report Posted August 12, 2024 Yeah he should be invited to be a member - however that process works (how?). As I said in the ceremony thread I could certainly see him as President, but it'd probably have to be the next but one. Although I noticed Jess Fox is heading to the athlete's commission so maybe instead of a presidential election for the next but one, we could just have a canoe race along the 2036 course Quote
Sir Rols Posted August 12, 2024 Report Posted August 12, 2024 (edited) 2 hours ago, BigVic said: Jess Fox, canoeing, 2021 and 2024 She’s on the athlete’s commission now, but that’s only for I think 8myesrs. After that, it depends if later down the track she wants to try and be involved again, through a sports admin path or whatever. It’s not something that’s automatically promised or destined for a nation’s latest games stars. Whatever, she’s certainly NOT going to be the next IOC president after Rogge. Edited August 12, 2024 by Sir Rols Quote
mr.bernham Posted August 12, 2024 Report Posted August 12, 2024 I really hope it's Coe. London 2012 changed the game. Had London been followed by a more responsible host than Rio, I think we'd give London even more credit than we do now (which is still a good bit). Coe also has experience from all levels: athlete, politician, organizer, sports federation leader. I think he could speak to every single level of the Olympic family with candor, authority, and trust... something Mr. Olympic Champion 1976 never could do convincingly. Quote
baron-pierreIV Posted August 12, 2024 Report Posted August 12, 2024 Sergei Bubka for Ukraine! And a smack to Mr. Putin!! Quote
Sir Rols Posted August 12, 2024 Report Posted August 12, 2024 4 hours ago, mr.bernham said: I really hope it's Coe. London 2012 changed the game. Had London been followed by a more responsible host than Rio, I think we'd give London even more credit than we do now (which is still a good bit). Coe also has experience from all levels: athlete, politician, organizer, sports federation leader. I think he could speak to every single level of the Olympic family with candor, authority, and trust... something Mr. Olympic Champion 1976 never could do convincingly. Yeah, I’m definitely Team Seb as well. Can’t think of anyone better credentialed. I actually do trust him. in the words of the great philosopher SportsLightning, “We’ll see”. 1 Quote
Gonzo Posted August 13, 2024 Report Posted August 13, 2024 Blindingly obvious that Coe is the best person for the job, he's done it all and in an alternative multiverse Coe would've been British PM in 2010 However what he can't overcome is the fact he is a white conservative male which is instant death in the world of woke identity politics Quote
mr.bernham Posted August 13, 2024 Report Posted August 13, 2024 Seb Coe as PM would've been unbelievably incredible. I'm glad he didn't end up in No.10 though. It would've forced him to be more partisan and politically combative. I feel like he's carved out an incredible position from which he can have a positive influence on the Olympic movement, which of course is bigger than any one nation. 1 Quote
cfm Jeremie Posted August 13, 2024 Report Posted August 13, 2024 There is no doubt Seb Coe would be a very good IOC President. However I am not sure how much support he currently has within the IOC membership: for example, the decision of World Athletics to distribute prize money for the Olympic champions has created a lot of tension with other IFs (for some of them having their President or Sec Gen as IOC members)... As for Tony rejoining the IOC, not impossible but with already 4 IOC members in France (Drut, Rolland, Lapartient, Fourcade), not sure it will happen soon. But he is still young. Quote
StefanMUC Posted August 13, 2024 Report Posted August 13, 2024 10 minutes ago, cfm Jeremie said: There is no doubt Seb Coe would be a very good IOC President. However I am not sure how much support he currently has within the IOC membership: for example, the decision of World Athletics to distribute prize money for the Olympic champions has created a lot of tension with other IFs (for some of them having their President or Sec Gen as IOC members)... As for Tony rejoining the IOC, not impossible but with already 4 IOC members in France (Drut, Rolland, Lapartient, Fourcade), not sure it will happen soon. But he is still young. Thank you for reminding the Coe fandom about the flaws in his candicacy (not to forget there‘s still a lot of Russia fans in the IOC who are not happy with his stance either). Tony E absolutely deserves to get an IOC membership. Rolland and Lappartient (apparently a Fencing 1976 buddy…) are ex officio members, Fourcade is on athletes‘ commission until 2030 (when very conviently he could be made permanent if all goes well with Nice & co), and Drut is 73 but member since 1996, so he can hang on until he‘s 80. By then, Estanguet is in his early 50s and could join. Quote
Michelle Posted August 13, 2024 Report Posted August 13, 2024 (edited) On 8/12/2024 at 12:28 AM, Sir Rols said: He’ll have to re-join the IOC first. I think he served on the athletes commission for a while, but that stint is over. I think it’s likely he’ll get an invite though. He would. But he could. And I suspect he could enjoy support. Leaders of local organizing committees show pedigree in terms of sport management and politics. Which is why I continue to consider Lord Coe the favourite. Naturally, I would like a woman to be leader. But I also don’t wish it to be done as a token. But certainly, Tony E has shown he has the credentials to be a leader in the IOC, if he wishes it. Edited August 13, 2024 by Michelle Quote
Michelle Posted August 13, 2024 Report Posted August 13, 2024 (edited) 7 hours ago, cfm Jeremie said: There is no doubt Seb Coe would be a very good IOC President. However I am not sure how much support he currently has within the IOC membership: for example, the decision of World Athletics to distribute prize money for the Olympic champions has created a lot of tension with other IFs (for some of them having their President or Sec Gen as IOC members)... As for Tony rejoining the IOC, not impossible but with already 4 IOC members in France (Drut, Rolland, Lapartient, Fourcade), not sure it will happen soon. But he is still young. An excellent analysis with actual points to back up your thought process. The issues aren’t insurmountable imo. Edited August 13, 2024 by Michelle Quote
Michelle Posted August 13, 2024 Report Posted August 13, 2024 8 minutes ago, Michelle said: An excellent analysis with actual points to back up your thought process. The issues aren’t insurmountable imo. Interestingly, I was not in favour of the approach by Coe to award prize money. I understand the reasons for it, but when it comes to the Olympics, I don’t personally think money and the sport should mix in a direct effect. Sponsorship after the games is fine. But this was a sad step imo. If this is his undoing, then it would be sad. However his love for athletics and it continuing to be the beating heart of any Olympic program are undeniable. Quote
cfm Jeremie Posted August 13, 2024 Report Posted August 13, 2024 Well, IOC just announced that candidates have until September 15th to declare themselves. IOC will publish the list of candidates on Sept. 16th so just over a month to go. Quote
Michelle Posted August 14, 2024 Report Posted August 14, 2024 14 hours ago, cfm Jeremie said: Well, IOC just announced that candidates have until September 15th to declare themselves. IOC will publish the list of candidates on Sept. 16th so just over a month to go. Please come back when the list is published and give your assessment. Would be super interested in getting your outlook. Quote
krow Posted August 15, 2024 Report Posted August 15, 2024 On 8/14/2024 at 12:21 AM, Michelle said: Naturally, I would like a woman to be leader. But I also don’t wish it to be done as a token how about a bach protogee gold medalist who speaks fluent corruption and was once named zimbabwe's worst cabinet minister? last we heard she was scooping up leftover mugabe fiefdoms after getting in good with the new gov't. they're probably building her a palace in doha as we speak just in case. Quote
StefanMUC Posted August 15, 2024 Report Posted August 15, 2024 32 minutes ago, krow said: how about a bach protogee gold medalist who speaks fluent corruption and was once named zimbabwe's worst cabinet minister? last we heard she was scooping up leftover mugabe fiefdoms after getting in good with the new gov't. they're probably building her a palace in doha as we speak just in case. I wonder who that could be. https://www.gamesbids.com/forums/topic/33307-the-next-ioc-president/?do=findComment&comment=587106 Quote
koen69 Posted August 15, 2024 Report Posted August 15, 2024 The selection of the next IOC President is crucial for the future of global sports. Leadership that champions transparency, inclusivity, and sustainability will be key. The next president must prioritize fostering unity, addressing climate challenges, and ensuring fair play across all levels, especially as the world grapples with geopolitical tensions and evolving expectations of athletes and fans alike. Quote
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