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10 hours ago, cfm Jeremie said:

To be fair, changing the “July-August” time window, would not only allow middle-East bid but also to quite a few Southern hemisphere countries (including part of Australia).

Absolutely.

With the warming global climate and concerbs about heat affecting athletes safety, the IOC flagged earlier this year was considering relaxing the July/August hosting requirements to the cooler months.

This would enable more cities around the world to host at more appropriate times of the year, including Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Dubai, Melbourne, Sydney as examples.

This report of Thomas Bach’s final press conference at Paris 2024 flags such a move:

Last Games of summer? IOC boss says heat may force date change

The sun could be setting on the summer Games after International Olympic Committee president Thomas Bach said climate change may force future Olympics staged in the northern hemisphere to be held later in the year.

In his final press conference in Paris, Bach noted that hotter summers had already forced changes to Olympic scheduling, with the Tokyo marathon shifted to the cooler climate city of Sapporo and the Paris marathons given an early morning start time.

“We will have to speak about the dates because of climate change,” Bach said. “If climate change is continuing in the way the experts are forecasting then it will be very difficult to organise the Olympic Games in summer, in August. We have seen this already.

“This is not only true for us. This is true for the entire calendar of the international federations. We have to sit together and, regardless of where the Games are taking place, see whether the calendar has to be adapted, adjusted to climate change and global warming.”

Further studies were required to determine whether future summer Games in the northern hemisphere needed to be pushed into autumn. The result of that research is unlikely to impact the timing of the Games in Brisbane in 2032, which will be held in the Australian winter or early spring.

When Sydney hosted the Games in 2000, the opening ceremony was held on September 15. In Rio 2016, the most recent Olympics staged in the southern hemisphere, the Games began on August 5.

The Tokyo Games, staged in 2021, are officially the hottest since the modern Olympics began in 1896, with temperatures spiking above a humid 34 degrees.

Last year was the hottest on record, with average global temperatures 1.45 degrees above pre-industrial averages, and this year is on track to be even hotter. Bach said warmer average temperatures would also likely force a change to the Winter Olympics, which have traditionally been staged in February.

Credit: Sydney Morning Herald - 10 Aug 24

 

Also see USA Today’s report::

2024 Paris Olympics highlight climate change's growing threat to athletes 30 July 24

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Q; To be fair, changing the “July-August” time window, would not only allow middle-East bid but also to quite a few Southern hemisphere countries (including part of Australia).

 

Brisbane 2032 needs to be moved- mid winter is a pretty sad time to be hosting a Games at a beach/resort location. I have been there the last 2 Julys and its was pretty cold and grim- and was even snowing not thaaat far away in the Ranges.

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On 12/16/2024 at 10:31 AM, yoshi said:

I don't have a subscription so I can't read the article.

Sorry, I should have posted it in full before. I didn’t think it was paywalled (the other one, the presidential index, definitely is, though). Anyway, here’s the Coe v Coventry one. As I said, I think it’s very interesting. Definitely worth letting people here see it all:

IOC presidential alert: Lord Coe's trip to India and the fight against the unholy alliance of Ambani & Bach and their lapdog Kirsty Coventry

Yesterday Budapest, tonight Dubai and tomorrow India – first in New Delhi, then in Mumbai in the evening. Sebastian Coe is very busy. He not only makes trips as president of World Athletics, it is always about the IOC presidency, and in the case of Hungary and India, also about Olympic bids.

 

Touchdown at Indira Gandhi International Airport of flight EK 510 from Dubai is 8.55 Monday morning. Sebastian Coe will be accompanied by Helen Delany, Director International Relations & Development of World Athletics, and CEO Jonathan Ridgeon. Just two hours later, at 11 a.m., the first of several meetings with representatives of the Sports Authority of India (SAI) and the Ministry of Youth Affairs and Sports (MYAS) is on the agenda.

The short trip to India has explosive implications for Olympic politics. The trip will be of burning interest not only to the six opponents of Sebastian Coe in the competition for the IOC presidency, but also to the candidates for the 2036 Summer Olympics. From one Olympic candidate, Hungary, where he has just met again with Secretary of State for Sports Ádám Schmidt, to the next, India, where a power that is considered to be a decisive factor in the IOC presidency issue rules: the Ambani family, which has close ties to incumbent IOC president Thomas Bach and his favourite Kirsty Coventry.

Sebastian Coe will meet, among others, India's Sports Minister Mansukh Mandaviya, followed by Shri Ashwini Kumar, Sports Minister of the state of Gujarat, which has been chosen as a candidate region for the 2036 Olympic Games.

At 5 p.m. local time, the first of two real highlights of the trip, of course at 7, Lok Kalyan Marg: IOC presidential candidate Coe will be received by Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi.

Sebastian Coe's trip to India should be viewed in this thrilling context:

From another continent, Africa, came the news that Thomas Bachobviously invited African IOC members to Dakar during his extended trip in October and asked them behind closed doors to elevate Kirsty Coventryto the IOC throne. According to sources, not even IOC directors were allowed at this meeting. Not everyone present liked what they had to hear from Bach.

As has been known for a long time and is becoming increasingly clear, Coventry has neither the support of all Africans nor of all women on the IOC, who, after all, make up 40 percent of the membership. However, the richest woman in the IOC has been taking care of Coventry for a long time: Nita Ambani.

In India, it is said that Coventry was offered jets from the Relianceconglomerate for travel years ago. Was that the case? In any case, Kirsty Coventry, like Juan Antonio Samaranch, was a guest at the extended decadent wedding celebrations of Nita's obese son Anant. During the Summer Olympics in Paris, Coventry was a regular guest at the Ambani residence Four Seasons Hotel George V. Since then, the heavily pregnant Coventry has hardly been seen.

And so everything remains interwoven: the IOC presidency and the totally non-transparent process of an Olympic bid, which has never been as dubious in Olympic history as it was in the last years of Thomas Bach's reign – Brisbane 2032 is the catastrophic warning

In India, people in the ministries believe the spin they hear from Mumbai, where the Ambani clan is based: everything is on the right track, maybe the IOC decision in favour of the subcontinent will even happen in spring 2025.

It's hard to believe.

But you should never rule out anything.

Sebastian Coe knows all this, because he has his spies everywhere. Including in Hungary, by the way, where he has just come from. Perhaps only one of his six IOC opponents has such a good network as the Briton, the clear leader in the IOC Presidential Index – an index that can reflect, above all, professional aptitude and less the trench warfare of sports politics.

It is safe to assume that Narendra Modi and Sebastian Coe will not only talk about athletics projects and the Indian World Athletics sponsor Tata, but also about the IOC presidency and India's (extremely questionable) bid for the Olympics.

What could a potential IOC president Seb Coe do for India's bid, which at its core is primarily a blatantly non-transparent project of the ruling caste? Which, as things stand, primarily serves to make rich Indians even richer and sent public money in the usual channels. All kinds of land are already being sold and are increasing in value enormously.

Is India's so-called bid more than just a gigantic property speculation or is there a genuine plan for the chaotic and corrupt Indian sports and the lower castes behind it? That is the question here.

Many Indian sports officials and politicians are convinced that the world's most populous country should first build a proper sports system, clear up the widespread scandals in its national federations and in the Indian Olympic Association (IOA), and for once work purposefully and correctly for a few years – for the benefit of Indian athletes. Only on this basis should one talk about an Olympic bid.

The IOC recently froze another million dollars from the Olympic Solidarityfund that was intended for India's athletes, who suffer twice and three times as a result of the IOA's leadership. The money was withheld due to ‘ongoing internal disputes and leadership issues,’ as is usually masked in such cases.

Narendra Modi and his Modigarchs, however, have long since decided that it should be the 2036 Olympics at any cost.

Modi and the Ambani clan have their roots in the state of Gujarat. That is why the Indian Olympic Games should be held in Gujarat. In the capital Ahmedabad, a cricket arena named after Modi has been standing for several years, which, with a capacity of 132,000 spectators, is currently considered the largest stadium in the world. The architects of the gigantic project, the Australian company Populous, are also working on the insane Olympic plans.

Last week, when the IOC held some video calls with interested Olympic parties that were frighteningly weak in content, the Indians had nothing to say. Instead of presenting any real plans to Jacqueline BarrettFuture Olympic Games Hosts Director, and Christophe DubiOlympic Games Executive Director, the bidders relied entirely on a visit to Lausanne, which is to take place shortly – of course still during the term of office of their most important man in Olympic HouseThomas Bach.

Incidentally, the Indians, above all the Ambani family, are united with the amateurish German so-called Olympic candidates: they are both primarily relying on the support of the IOC potentate, who will have to relinquish power in six months' time. There are increasing signs that Bach is rapidly losing influence. From all directions – America, Africa, Asia and Europe – you can hear stories of how once-loyal followers are breaking away and suddenly looking at things quite differently.

What do you call it: twilight of the gods? Lame duck?

A bit of everything.

In the coming days, Sebastian Coe will of course also be exploring what India can do for his presidential ambitions.

After the meeting with Modi, it's back to Indira Gandhi International Airportin a blaze of glory, because a connecting flight with AI 805 to Mumbai is booked just three hours later. Rooms are booked at the Taj Mahal Palace Hotel.

Visit to Mumbai to meet Tata chairman and Ambani

In Mumbai, a contract between World Athletics and the Tata conglomerate will be signed on Tuesday. Tata Communications is already a partner of the World Athletics Ultimate Championship 2026 ff. in Budapest. I can't say for sure whether it's about these contracts that Sebastian Coe is signing with Natarajan Chandrasekaran, Chairman of the Board of Tata Sons, on Tuesday – or whether it's about an additional sponsorship contract. 

If it is the latter, it will be another important point in the palmarès of Coe, who is a leading contender for the post of IOC president. Symbolically important: some say, the IOC has been negotiating with Tata for membership of the TOP programme. Three Japanese companies (Toyota, Bridgestone and Panasonic) recently left the IOC's sponsorship programme, which was introduced 40 years ago and is now called The Olympic Partner.

In India, the Ambani family's Reliance conglomerate is by far not the only big one. The Tata Group even has a long-standing genuine relationship with the so-called Olympic movement: Sir Dorabji Tata, son of the company's founder, was the founder of the All India Olympic Committee, the forerunner of the IOA. It was Dorabji Tata who organised the first independent Indian participations in the Olympic Games, in Antwerp in 1920 and in Paris in 1924. He was an IOC member from 1920 to 1930.

Compared to the nouveau riche Ambanis, this story of the IOC, IOA and Tata is, of course, unbeatable. Dhirajlal Hirachand Ambani, the company founder and father of Mukesh Ambani, was not born until the end of 1932, after Sir Dorabji had died.

But okay, these kinds of Olympic history lessons are not on the agenda in Mumbai on Wednesday, when Sebastian Coe will quickly pay his respects to the first lady of India. First lady, is that even a proper term? Well, the lady occasionally behaves as if she is: Nita Ambani, an IOC member by the grace of Bach and the wife of the currently richest Modigarch, Mukesh Ambani.

Some scoff that Nita has the say at home in Antilia, the largest and most expensive private residence in the world, and lets Mukesh feel it at every opportunity. Anyway, we don't want to interfere in the private affairs of these rulers of the universe. But it is striking that one IOC presidential candidate after another is paying a visit to the Ambanis in Mumbai. It's as if Nita and Mukesh have a huge say in who will be the tenth IOC president or the first female IOC president in March 2025 and will finally ascend the IOC throne in Lausanne on 24 June 2025.

Sebastian Coe knows what he is doing. But is that enough to convince the Ambanis to let go of their favourite, Coventry?

If that is really the case, why should the Ambanis do without an IOC president they believe they can control, and instead support a British Lord who, although he is well-versed in all the lobbying tricks and steeled in the face of conflicts of interest (Nike, CSM, etc.), is less likely to be influenced and certainly not to be ordered around?

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oh my god Watanabe wants to host the Olympic Games across the five continents simultaneously.

From his manifesto:

  • Stage the Olympic Games in five cities from the five continents, in the same period of time.
  • IOC and IFs can choose a city that will provide an environment with less burden on athletes.
  • Significance of the Olympic Games: Bringing the five continents together
  • The Games will be broadcast and streamed 24 hours a day, which will unite the world.
  • 10 sports per host city, 50 sports in total.
  • With fewer (1/3) numbers of IFs involved per each of host city, more focused discussions over a longer period of time will allow the use of more existing and temporary facilities to be considered.
  • Discussions will also be undertaken for the Winter Olympic Games to reduce the number of sports per host city
    with a view to organizing the Games in several host cities and countries/regions.
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Euro 2020(21) as a role model? 
But the IOC President could still only be in one place for opening and then maybe another for closing.

Or s/he will sit in Lausanne on neutral ground :D

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Okay, had a quick skim of all of them.

Watanabe’s was the wackiest, and the shortest. Give him credit for thinking outside the box, but good luck convincing anyone.

Lappartient makes a direct pledge to bring the games to Africa.

All of them (bar Kirsty), pledge to bring decision making back to the membership. Lots of mention that sessions must be more than just presentations and rubber stamping. Al Hussein and Samaranch both explicitly promise to bring back real host city elections. Kirsty only goes as far as saying she’ll listen to members and improve internal communications.

i’ll look into more detail when I get time.

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10 minutes ago, Scotguy II said:

Maybe we could get a poll started on who the members here think or would like to be the next president.

I was going to wait a bit for it… but why not

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So, 2 weeks to until the seven IOC President candidates make their in-camera presentations to the full IOC membership at a meeting to be held 30 January.

After drawing lots, this is the order in which each Candidate will present:

  1. HRH Prince Feisal Al Hussein
  2. Mr David Lappartient
  3. Mr Johan Eliasch
  4. Mr Juan Antonio Samaranch
  5. Mrs Kirsty Coventry
  6. Lord Sebastien Coe
  7. Mr Morinari Watanabe

The vote itself will happen at the IOC Session in Greece 18-21 March 2025.

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On 12/19/2024 at 8:37 PM, Bear said:

Thanks @Bear 😀

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7 hours ago, AustralianFan said:

So, 2 weeks to until the seven IOC President candidates make their in-camera presentations to the full IOC membership at a meeting to be held 30 January.

The vote itself will happen at the IOC Session in Greece 18-21 March 2025.

On 30 January, the Candidates will be expected to speak to the guts of what is in their Candidature File - their pitch’ if you like.

I’ve picked what I see as top 5 key points, amongst all the flowery words.  

These top 5s will of course vary to each reader according to individual perceptions:

HRH PRINCE FAISEL HUSSEIN - Candidature Document:

  1. Explore flexibility around the dates of the Olympic Games calendar
  2. Give every IOC Member a role to play in defining and executing policy
  3. Collaborate more closely with the International Paralympic Committee
  4. Enable members to decide the electorate for future host cities
  5. Replace four year extensions with an age limit increase to 75

MR DAVID LAPPARTIENT - Candidature Document:

  1. Organise Olympic Games on continents and in regions where they have never been held before
  2. Strengthen the role of IOC Members in the decision-making process and debates as Sessions
  3. Rethink how Commissions work
  4. Future proof our revenue
  5. Draft Olympic Agenda 2036

MR JOHAN ELIASCH - Candidature Document:

  1. Enhance mental health support for athletes
  2. Ring fence Women’s sports - no ifs, no buts
  3. Build a bridge between Olympic and Paralympic sport
  4. Sieze value for money opportunities presented by AI
  5. Mitigate risks of awarding the Games to less developed countries

MR JUAN ANTONIO SAMARANCH - Candidature Document:

  1. Return to open Session format for open discussion and debate
  2. Empower Members to participate in fully and manage Commssions
  3. Strengthen partnership between the Olympic and Paralympic Movements
  4. Extend the retirement age to 75
  5. Enable Members to decide on host city selection

MRS KIRSTY COVENTRY - Candidature Document

  1. Strengthen Women’s sports by protecting female athletes
  2. Actively involve International Sports Federations in Games delivery
  3. Expand Olympic Solidarity Scholarship program for athletes
  4. Conduct open dialogue and workshops with IOC Members to give Commissions greater influence and decision making powers
  5. Adopt innovations that reduce waste, conserve energy and minimise carbon footprints

LORD SEBASTIAN COE - Candidature document

  1. Urgent review of governance structures, roles and responsibilities in the Membership and the Executive Board
  2. Drive greater collaboration between National Olympic Committees and International Sport Federations
  3. Embrace AI to modernise fan engagement, talent identification and sport delivery
  4. Democratise governance to empower IOC Members
  5. Power up small National Olympic Committees and International Sport Federations

MR MORINARI WATANABE - Candidature document

  1. Stage the Olympic Games on five continents in the same period of time
  2. Introduce an open bicameral governance system for the IOC
  3. Advocate maximum term for IOC Presidents of 12 years
  4. Develop new businesses to contribute to peoples’ health and mental wellbeing
  5. Develop a system in which sports developed nations actively support sports developing nations

 

 

 

 

 

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19 hours ago, AustralianFan said:

On 30 January, the Candidates will be expected to speak to the guts of what is in their Candidature File - their pitch’ if you like.

I’ve picked what I see as top 5 key points, amongst all the flowery words.  

These top 5s will of course vary to each reader according to individual perceptions:

HRH PRINCE FAISEL HUSSEIN - Candidature Document:

  1. Explore flexibility around the dates of the Olympic Games calendar
  2. Give every IOC Member a role to play in defining and executing policy
  3. Collaborate more closely with the International Paralympic Committee
  4. Enable members to decide the electorate for future host cities
  5. Replace four year extensions with an age limit increase to 75

MR DAVID LAPPARTIENT - Candidature Document:

  1. Organise Olympic Games on continents and in regions where they have never been held before
  2. Strengthen the role of IOC Members in the decision-making process and debates as Sessions
  3. Rethink how Commissions work
  4. Future proof our revenue
  5. Draft Olympic Agenda 2036

MR JOHAN ELIASCH - Candidature Document:

  1. Enhance mental health support for athletes
  2. Ring fence Women’s sports - no ifs, no buts
  3. Build a bridge between Olympic and Paralympic sport
  4. Sieze value for money opportunities presented by AI
  5. Mitigate risks of awarding the Games to less developed countries

MR JUAN ANTONIO SAMARANCH - Candidature Document:

  1. Return to open Session format for open discussion and debate
  2. Empower Members to participate in fully and manage Commssions
  3. Strengthen partnership between the Olympic and Paralympic Movements
  4. Extend the retirement age to 75
  5. Enable Members to decide on host city selection

MRS KIRSTY COVENTRY - Candidature Document

  1. Strengthen Women’s sports by protecting female athletes
  2. Actively involve International Sports Federations in Games delivery
  3. Expand Olympic Solidarity Scholarship program for athletes
  4. Conduct open dialogue and workshops with IOC Members to give Commissions greater influence and decision making powers
  5. Adopt innovations that reduce waste, conserve energy and minimise carbon footprints

LORD SEBASTIAN COE - Candidature document

  1. Urgent review of governance structures, roles and responsibilities in the Membership and the Executive Board
  2. Drive greater collaboration between National Olympic Committees and International Sport Federations
  3. Embrace AI to modernise fan engagement, talent identification and sport delivery
  4. Democratise governance to empower IOC Members
  5. Power up small National Olympic Committees and International Sport Federations

MR MORINARI WATANABE - Candidature document

  1. Stage the Olympic Games on five continents in the same period of time
  2. Introduce an open bicameral governance system for the IOC
  3. Advocate maximum term for IOC Presidents of 12 years
  4. Develop new businesses to contribute to peoples’ health and mental wellbeing
  5. Develop a system in which sports developed nations actively support sports developing nations

Some common themes amongst several of the IOC President Candidates include:

  • involve IOC Members more in decision making and host city selection
  • forging closer ties between the Olympics and Paralympics
  • review the operation of Commissions
  • boost mental health support for athletes
  • greater use of AI
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Where does each candidate stand on Russia’s and Belarus’s return, or not ?

As we know, in October 2023 the IOC Executive Board suspended Russia’s Olympic Committee for breaching the Olympic Charter following the Ukraine invasion.

When IOC President Thomas Bach steps down in June to make way for the new President, much of the Executive Board stays the same including all four Vice-Presidents. Here is a list of the full membership of the IOC Executive Board.

From ITG, an indication of where each of the seven IOC President Candidates might stand on on the return or continued suspension of Belarus and Russia may be seen in the following:

HRH Prince Faisel Hussein

  • supported the return of Belarusian and Russian athletes at Paris 2024.
  • member of IOC Executive Board.

Mr David Lappartient

  • supported the return of Belarusian and Russian athletes at Paris 2024.

Mr Johan Eliasch

  • supported the return of Belarusian and Russian athletes at Paris 2024.

Mr Juan Antonio Samaranch

  • at a conference in Budapest, Samaranch pledged that the IOC will reinstate Russia "immediately" once it returns to compliance if he is elected.
  • IOC Vice President and member of the IOC Executive Board.

Mrs Kirsty Coventry

  • supported the return of Belarusian and Russian athletes at Paris 2024.
  • member of IOC Executive Board.

Lord Sebastian Coe

  • in 2022 as president of World Athletics, Coe moved to exclude Russian and Belarussian athletes from events staged by his international sport federation.
  • Coe strongly insisted he “is not a neutral” when strongly defending the decision taken by World Athletics not to allow Russians or Belarusians to take part in its competitions in the wake of the Russian invasion of Ukraine.
  • Coe:  “on the eve of the Munich 2022 European Championships I sat with a Ukrainian girl who had lost her mother four hours earlier in an attack on a tower block in Kyiv. I’m sorry, I’m not a neutral."

Mr Morinari Watanabe

  • supported the return of Belarusian and Russian athletes at Paris 2024.
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23 hours ago, Sir Rols said:

Yet another reason to hope for Coe

Isn't his wife, though, of Indian heritage?  Or am I thinking of Danny Boyle (who is or isn't related to Susan Boyle)?? 

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29 minutes ago, baron-pierreIV said:

Isn't his wife, though, of Indian heritage? 

You must be thinking of Michael Caine. Seb’s spouses (from Wikipedia):

In 1990, when resident in Surrey, Coe married Nicky McIrvine, a former Badminton three-day-event champion, with whom he has two sons and two daughters. The marriage ended in divorce in 2002 after twelve years.

In 2003, Coe began a relationship with Carole Annett; the couple wed in 2011. She is the daughter of former England cricket captain M. J. K. Smith.

Pics of both look pretty Anglo - the current one’s blonde.

My comment related more that he’s the only candidate that seems to be hardline on Russia.

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36 minutes ago, Sir Rols said:

My comment related more that he’s the only candidate that seems to be hardline on Russia.

Oh, OK.  Am not paying too close attn to the prexy's race.   I think it's Danny Boyle who's also related to an Indian spouse or soemthing like that.  

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7 hours ago, baron-pierreIV said:

Oh, OK.  Am not paying too close attn to the prexy's race.   I think it's Danny Boyle who's also related to an Indian spouse or soemthing like that.  

Or your new immigrant-hating VP.

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Came across an interview with Eliasch (who I think is the longest of longest shots) in ITG, but it seems to be a re-write of an interview he gave to Agence France Presse and Al Arabiya.

Most of it is the usual platitudinous homilies they’ve all spouted  - unity, sport at the forefront, AI evolution yadda yadda - but some interesting, and eyebrow raising comments on Saudi Arabia:

Eliasch was asked about the Gulf nation and whether he would be prepared to reschedule the Games for the winter, rather than in the summer when temperatures hit 40 degrees.

"Well, if you look at the front page of my manifesto, what you see there is a picture of a globe with Africa, the Middle East, India and Southeast Asia. There is a thought behind that, they are place where we haven't been. We have been to South America, China and Australia - and of course Europe and North America.

"We must not forget Africa, it is a place we need to go to and the Middle East, and not been to India either. Some people will say this will be challenging because of calendar issues, lack of infrastructure. Though with careful planning, I am convinced we can overcome every obstacle and deliver magnificent games," Eliasch concluded.

On Saudi Arabia, who will host the 2034 World Cup, the 62-year-old, added, "We should encourage everybody to apply. In the case of Saudi Arabia, their commitment and dedication to sport is fantastic, and I remember years ago when they promoted the idea of actually including snow-based events. People said 'that can't be true', 'where do you find snow in Saudi Arabia?', but they actually do have snow and have mountains reaching 2,600 metres and have invested in building up ski resorts. "So, everything is possible, and if Saudi Arabia applies, we should take that very seriously."

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By the way, tomorrow’s the day the candidates give their live auditions. Not that we’ll get to see it.

Hopefully there’ll be some leaks and tidbits coming out of it (apart from the bland press release or statement the IOC itself will issue or worse, a wrap up by Dubi).

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