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As we head into 2022 I expect we will hear a decision as to whether Australia (possibly with NZ) will pursue a bid for the 2030 or 2034 (or both). Just thought it would be worth creating a thread for any news that may emerge. 

Personally I'd love to see the event staged with NZ (venues at Auckland and possibly Christchurch or Dunedin). In Australia most (if not all) of the venues would need to be centred along the east coast states (Vic. NSW and Qld). We have solid clusters of existing fit-for-purpose stadiums in great cities with plenty of hotels...

New Zealand

  • Eden Park (Auckland - 60,000 - potential finals venue)
  • Sky Stadium (Wellington - 34,500)
  • ForsythBarr Stadium (Dunedin - 31,000)

Queensland

  • Suncorp Stadium (Brisbane - 52,500 - potential finals venue) 
  • CBUS Stadium (Gold Coast - 28,000)

New South Wales

  • Stadium Australia (Sydney - 83,500 - potential finals venue)
  • Sydney Football Stadium (Sydney - 45,000)
  • CommBank Stadium (Sydney - 30,000)

Victoria

  • MCG (Melbourne - 100,000 - potential finals venue)
  • AAMI Park (Melbourne - 30,000)
  • Docklands Stadium (Melbourne - 54,000)

South Australia

  • Adelaide Oval (Adelaide - 55,000- potential finals venue)

 

 

Sorry Perth... you're too far!

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NZ does not have the infrastructure or public transport to be able to host an event like this. Auckland and Wellington are a gridlocked mess and projects are either scrapped or take double the time to complete so would not be ready for 2030/34. maybe try for 21/30/34 :P 

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8 minutes ago, Scotguy II said:

NZ does not have the infrastructure or public transport to be able to host an event like this. Auckland and Wellington are a gridlocked mess and projects are either scrapped or take double the time to complete so would not be ready for 2030/34. maybe try for 21/30/34 :P 

They're existing venues in single cities - Eden Park for instance hosts major events throughout the year in addition to the 2011 RWC. NZ would be more than capable of staging FIFA World Cup matches in separate cities. 

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3 hours ago, Australian Kiwi said:

As we head into 2022 I expect we will hear a decision as to whether Australia (possibly with NZ) will pursue a bid for the 2030 or 2034 (or both). Just thought it would be worth creating a thread for any news that may emerge. 

Personally I'd love to see the event staged with NZ (venues at Auckland and possibly Christchurch or Dunedin). In Australia most (if not all) of the venues would need to be centred along the east coast states (Vic. NSW and Qld). We have solid clusters of existing fit-for-purpose stadiums in great cities with plenty of hotels...

New Zealand

  • Eden Park (Auckland - 60,000 - potential finals venue)
  • Sky Stadium (Wellington - 34,500)
  • ForsythBarr Stadium (Dunedin - 31,000)

Queensland

  • Suncorp Stadium (Brisbane - 52,500 - potential finals venue) 
  • CBUS Stadium (Gold Coast - 28,000)

New South Wales

  • Stadium Australia (Sydney - 83,500 - potential finals venue)
  • Sydney Football Stadium (Sydney - 45,000)
  • CommBank Stadium (Sydney - 30,000)

Victoria

  • MCG (Melbourne - 100,000 - potential finals venue)
  • AAMI Park (Melbourne - 30,000)
  • Docklands Stadium (Melbourne - 54,000)

South Australia

  • Adelaide Oval (Adelaide - 55,000- potential finals venue)

Sorry Perth... you're too far!

Perth too far?   What nonsense.  The 2026 World Cup is being hosted in 3 different countries Canada, USA and Mexico.

48 Teams in the FIFA World Cup, up from 32 Teams.

They will need every Stadium they can get their hands on for this 2030 or 2034 bid to be taken seriously.

Perth will definitely host plenty of World Cup games.

 

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3 hours ago, Australian Kiwi said:

As we head into 2022 I expect we will hear a decision as to whether Australia (possibly with NZ) will pursue a bid for the 2030 or 2034 (or both). Just thought it would be worth creating a thread for any news that may emerge. 

Personally I'd love to see the event staged with NZ (venues at Auckland and possibly Christchurch or Dunedin). In Australia most (if not all) of the venues would need to be centred along the east coast states (Vic. NSW and Qld). We have solid clusters of existing fit-for-purpose stadiums in great cities with plenty of hotels...

New Zealand

  • Eden Park (Auckland - 60,000 - potential finals venue)
  • Sky Stadium (Wellington - 34,500)
  • ForsythBarr Stadium (Dunedin - 31,000)

Queensland

  • Suncorp Stadium (Brisbane - 52,500 - potential finals venue) 
  • CBUS Stadium (Gold Coast - 28,000)

New South Wales

  • Stadium Australia (Sydney - 83,500 - potential finals venue)
  • Sydney Football Stadium (Sydney - 45,000)
  • CommBank Stadium (Sydney - 30,000)

Victoria

  • MCG (Melbourne - 100,000 - potential finals venue)
  • AAMI Park (Melbourne - 30,000)
  • Docklands Stadium (Melbourne - 54,000)

South Australia

  • Adelaide Oval (Adelaide - 55,000- potential finals venue)

 

 

Sorry Perth... you're too far!

 

1 minute ago, AustralianFan said:

Perth too far?   What nonsense.  The 2026 World Cup is being hosted in 3 different countries Canada, USA and Mexico.

48 Teams in the FIFA World Cup, up from 32 Teams.

They will need every Stadium they can get their hands on for this 2030 or 2034 bid to be taken seriously.

Perth will definitely host plenty of World Cup games.

 

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Brisbane ‘s brand new Olympic Stadium - The Gabba - 50,000 capacity

>> with an underground train station.  This new hi-tech stadium would definitely also also host World Cup Games.  It previously hosted Olympic football games in 2000.

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Three hosts, 48 teams: how the 2026 World Cup will work - The Guardian

Fifa’s decision to award the united bid from the USA, Canada and Mexico the right to host the 2026 World Cup will bring us a 48-team tournament like no World Cup before. But how will it work?”

“The 48 teams will be divided into 16 groups of three. The top two teams in each group will progress to a new knock-out phase of 32. It means that 16 teams will go home after playing just two matches, and critics have argued that a format featuring groups comprised of three teams is likely to be very unbalanced.”

Supporters of expansion say the strength of the format is that while it adds 16 extra teams, it adds only 16 extra matches, and barely impacts the number of days it takes to play the tournament. The two teams who reach the final will have still played six matches to get there, as they currently do. In effect, 32 teams are still guaranteed to have at least three matches in the competition, which is what happens in the current 32 team format

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Townsville Country Bank Stadium

Capacity:  25,000 - expandable with temporary grandstands

Hosted 2021 Rugby League State of Origin Game

With 48 Teams in the FIFA World Cup, would suit less popular matches 

Hosting Olympic Football matches at Brisbane 2032 Olympic Games

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Townsville is a great venue - my only thought is that its rather small for a WC. Otherwise other stadiums like Wyndham City (Melbourne) or Newcastle could be in the mix. 

Re: the Gabba. Its an oval with a relatively small capacity half of the MCG (therefore is it worth it over Suncorp or CBUS? Venues also need to be shared around). MCG is not a great football stadium, however with a 100,000+ capacity by 2030 following the upgrades it would be a contender for the Final. 

Perth is fairly far when you consider NZ (six hour flight). Not everywhere can host. Optus is a fancy stadium but its not a football stadium and its not the MCG.

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3 hours ago, Australian Kiwi said:

Townsville is a great venue - my only thought is that its rather small for a WC. Otherwise other stadiums like Wyndham City (Melbourne) or Newcastle could be in the mix. 

Re: the Gabba. Its an oval with a relatively small capacity half of the MCG (therefore is it worth it over Suncorp or CBUS? Venues also need to be shared around). MCG is not a great football stadium, however with a 100,000+ capacity by 2030 following the upgrades it would be a contender for the Final. 

Perth is fairly far when you consider NZ (six hour flight). Not everywhere can host. Optus is a fancy stadium but its not a football stadium and its not the MCG.

Perth (Australia) is going to be used as the venue for the 2023 FIFA Women's World Cup along with Hamilton (New Zealand) that was not mention on this topic. Perth is focusing right now on that FIFA Women's World Cup next year, same with Hamilton that you didn't mentioned.

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11 hours ago, Australian Kiwi said:

Townsville is a great venue - my only thought is that its rather small for a WC. Otherwise other stadiums like Wyndham City (Melbourne) or Newcastle could be in the mix. 

Re: the Gabba. Its an oval with a relatively small capacity half of the MCG (therefore is it worth it over Suncorp or CBUS? Venues also need to be shared around). MCG is not a great football stadium, however with a 100,000+ capacity by 2030 following the upgrades it would be a contender for the Final. 

Perth is fairly far when you consider NZ (six hour flight). Not everywhere can host. Optus is a fancy stadium but its not a football stadium and its not the MCG.

  • The new World Cup has 48 Teams, a big increase on the current 32 teams.
  • Optus Stadium is a multi-purpose stadium in Perth and converts to rectangular mode for soccer and seats and additional 5,000 to total 65,000 spectators.
  • With a population 2 million people in Perth most definitely be a venue in any World Cup bidinvolving Australia.
  • Both Suncorp Stadium and the Gabba have a 50,000 spectator capacity, so both would be very suitablefoe a World Cup.
  • Perth is a confirmed venue in the 2023 FIFA Womans World Cup, as Sportlightng said.
  • Nothing at all stopping an oval shaped stadium becoming a World Cup Football venue
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49 minutes ago, Rob. said:

As fantastic a stadium as it is, Optus looks awful for football.

That photo of Optus Stadium is from a one-off friendly match with the stadium clearly staying in oval “AFL” mode.

For a World Cup, it would convert to rectangular mode - click here to view.

This image is Optus Stadium in recangular mode with capacity increased from 60,000 to 65,000 capacity.

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  • Design meets FIFA, International Rugby Board (IRB) and Australian Rugby League Commission (ARLC) standards and requirements.
  • Accommodates rectangular sports with up to 5,000 drop in seats on all four sides of the pitch boundary, bringing fans closer to the action.
  • Increased capacity, up to 65,000.
  • Unobstructed, quality views of the field of play, regardless of seating configuration or the sporting event.
  • 12 hour turnaround to install and/or remove drop in seats.
  • Some of the largest home team facilities in Australia (450m2) including change room facilities, coaches briefing room and the warm-up space.
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16 hours ago, Australian Kiwi said:

Townsville is a great venue - my only thought is that its rather small for a WC. Otherwise other stadiums like Wyndham City (Melbourne) or Newcastle could be in the mix. 

Townsville Stadium permanent capacity - 25,000 + 2,327 temporary grandstands = 27,327 total capacity

Townsville to host State of Origin - capacity increase to 27,327

This puts Townsvills on par with Melbourne’s 30,000 seat AIMI Stadium on your list.

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On 1/18/2022 at 8:43 PM, Australian Kiwi said:

MCG (Melbourne - 100,000 - potential finals venue)

The Melbourne Cricket Ground (MCG) is an oval shaped venue.   I understand that in Australia’s 2022 FIFA World Cup bid, the MCG capacity in FIFA mode was approx. 84,000 - not 100,000.

Why Melbourne wasn’t in the running for 2023 FIFA Women’s World Cup Final - Sydney Morning Herald

FIFA has officially accepted Perth’s Optus Stadium as a venue for matches in the 2023 FIFA Women’s World Cup.

For a 2030 or 2034 World Cup bid by Australia and NZ, Perth’s 65,000 FIFA mode Optus Stadium would most definitely again be approved by FIFA for hosting matches  

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On 1/18/2022 at 1:43 AM, Australian Kiwi said:

Stadium Australia (Sydney - 83,500 - potential finals venue)

Sydney could be the venue for the final if its possible. Sydney is also the final for the 2023 FIFA Women's World Cup, so i think this could do the same.

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