FYI Posted October 28, 2023 Report Posted October 28, 2023 And if/when the time comes for Durban, surely the stadium will be upgraded to Olympic standards anyway. Look at L.A.'s Memorial Coliseum. A 100-year old stadium that's going to see Olympic action for the 3rd time in it's lifespan come 2028. Besides, the IOC "hates" new builds these days anyway! 1 Quote
baron-pierreIV Posted October 29, 2023 Report Posted October 29, 2023 1 hour ago, FYI said: And if/when the time comes for Durban, surely the stadium will be upgraded to Olympic standards anyway. Look at L.A.'s Memorial Coliseum. A 100-year old stadium that's going to see Olympic action for the 3rd time in it's lifespan come 2028. Besides, the IOC "hates" new builds these days anyway! And I just checked, Durban has a 3.5 mil metropolitan population. So large enough. I guess SASOC and Pretoria have other priorities at the moment. Quote
Roger87 Posted October 29, 2023 Report Posted October 29, 2023 1 hour ago, baron-pierreIV said: And I just checked, Durban has a 3.5 mil metropolitan population. So large enough. I guess SASOC and Pretoria have other priorities at the moment. Well, that's the real deal: Quote
baron-pierreIV Posted October 29, 2023 Report Posted October 29, 2023 /\/\ How old is that report? They are entering the warmer SUMMER months -- NOT the winter. Besides, do you think that crisis would be there 6-7-8 years from now when the bidders for 2036, 2040 start lining up? Quote
stryker Posted October 29, 2023 Report Posted October 29, 2023 3 hours ago, FYI said: If Brisbane can in 2032, then I don't see why Durban can't in 2044. Metro-wise, they're both about the same size now. Brisbane is in a first world country with money to spend and had kost of the facilities in place. Durban is in a third world country on the brink of political and financial collapse with no money to spend Quote
Roger87 Posted October 29, 2023 Report Posted October 29, 2023 1 hour ago, baron-pierreIV said: /\/\ How old is that report? They are entering the warmer SUMMER months -- NOT the winter. Besides, do you think that crisis would be there 6-7-8 years from now when the bidders for 2036, 2040 start lining up? It's from May. They just recently gain some solution few months ago... And about that crisis... Well, this crisis is actually from 2007! But that came in worse terms in recent years - At least since the pandemic. And it looks it doesn't have a clear definitive solution yet. Quote
Roger87 Posted October 29, 2023 Report Posted October 29, 2023 Another trouble in South Africa related to the current growing wave of violence and poverty is the upcoming elections in 2024... The scenario is looking for a potential bomb. -A sclerotic ANC filled with the rampant corruption and inneficacy -The ascension of the Economic Freedom Fighters, a Marxist Leninist party with a leader which prior threatening with an armed coup and may have parallelisms with Robert Mugabe -The recently formed Multi-Party Charter. Although not bad in principle, some of these small parties had some past in the Afrikaaner Volksfront (The right-wing party as the democratic band of the Apartheid white parties. Something like Brothers of Italy linked in Italian Social Movement). Quote
AustralianFan Posted October 7, 2024 Author Report Posted October 7, 2024 Egypt Has Built a New Olympic Park This is gob-smacking set of stadiums and venues in Egypt’s new Olympic Park is the very opposite of New Norm. It’s horrifying multi-billion $$$$ cost scale reminds me of Sochi 2014’s build-it-at-any-cost from scratch. 1 1 Quote
texan Posted October 9, 2024 Report Posted October 9, 2024 On 10/7/2024 at 8:55 PM, AustralianFan said: Egypt Has Built a New Olympic Park This is gob-smacking set of stadiums and venues in Egypt’s new Olympic Park is the very opposite of New Norm. It’s horrifying multi-billion $$$$ cost scale reminds me of Sochi 2014’s build-it-at-any-cost from scratch. Literally any country could get a loan from the Gulf or China and build massive venues. What is more important is sustainability and building giant structures in the middle of a desert is not sustainable. These structures will share the same destiny as the Athens 2004 venues. A country must build and prove that it will utilize the venues before submitting a bid for the Olympics. They should not build expensive structures just to host thee Olympics for a few days. Quote
AustralianFan Posted October 10, 2024 Author Report Posted October 10, 2024 14 hours ago, texan said: Literally any country could get a loan from the Gulf or China and build massive venues. What is more important is sustainability and building giant structures in the middle of a desert is not sustainable. These structures will share the same destiny as the Athens 2004 venues. A country must build and prove that it will utilize the venues before submitting a bid for the Olympics. They should not build expensive structures just to host thee Olympics for a few days. Exactly. The IOC are not naive and will steer the Games well clear of Egypt. My money’s on Seoul getting another Games in 2036. 1 Quote
Rob2012 Posted October 10, 2024 Report Posted October 10, 2024 Hmmm....if Egypt was a more stable nation, more secure, and was a strong financial bet, I wonder if they'd care too much. The "new norm" seems to be about ensuring no embarrassment to the IOC between the awarding of a Games and the opening ceremony. If you've got things already built and you're a nation the IOC sees as desirable then I'm not sure how much sway it would have. I don't think the problem for Egypt is the "new norm". 1 Quote
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