Egypt 2036

[AustralianFan]

“The statement, issued by the Egyptian cabinet, quoted Bach as saying Egypt’s sports infrastructure was capable of hosting the event.”

 

 

 

[ulu]

They really should host the Asian Games first.

[stryker]

2 hours ago, AustralianFan said:

An Olympic Games in Cairo’s climate certainly is do-able with rescheduling of some events.

Security at an Olympic Games is always a big concern and always a big logistical exercise to guard it against any threats.   Cairo 2036 will be no exception.

No. Middle East terrorism is a higher threat. ISIS operates freely in the Sinai and has conducted a number of attacks on tourist infrastructure especially targeting westerners and Egypt had been so so at security. I suggest you educate yourself a bit on ME terrorism.

[yoshi]

25 minutes ago, ulu said:

They really should host the Asian Games first.

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...the African Games would be a better bet  I don't know how feasible this is without getting NBC to change the dates. Also isn't the traffic and pollution famously bad in Cairo? (Not that that stopped Beijing). Sporting tradition though, so far more worthy than Doha...

 

[ulu]

4 hours ago, yoshi said:

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...the African Games would be a better bet  I don't know how feasible this is without getting NBC to change the dates. Also isn't the traffic and pollution famously bad in Cairo? (Not that that stopped Beijing). Sporting tradition though, so far more worthy than Doha...

 

Haha. I can't believe I said that. Are the African Games even big enough to be a decent stepping stone to hosting an Olympics?

[StefanMUC]

2 hours ago, ulu said:

Haha. I can't believe I said that. Are the African Games even big enough to be a decent stepping stone to hosting an Olympics?

No.

 

[Zhou Jiaming]

China must support Egypt's bid for the 2036 Olympic Games!

[SportLightning]

Maybe Saudi Arabia could support Egypt's bid as well since they are the Red Sea neighbour.

[baron-pierreIV]

Cairo will build 100 A/C stadia in the shadow of the pyramids. 

Oh wait, someone promised that before . . . 

 

[SportLightning]

1 hour ago, baron-pierreIV said:

Cairo will build 100 A/C stadia in the shadow of the pyramids. 

Oh wait, someone promised that before . . . 

 

Someone promised it, but not me.

[AustralianFan]

 

Crowded Field for 2036 Games

IOC CONFIRMATION:    New Norm Host Selection Process

10 COUNTRIES CONFIRMED TO BE IN CONTINUOUS DIALOGUE WITH THE INTERNATIONAL OLYMPIC COMMITTEE FOR THE 2036 SUMMER GAMES

It is strongly believed that Egypt is one of the ten countries.

This report below from Inside The Games:

 

[AustralianFan]

Bidders Egypt say 'it is time for Africa' - BBC Sport - 3Oct-22

 

Excerpt from the report:

“Egypt's National Olympic Committee (NOC) says "it is time for Africa" as it tries to become the first country on the continent to host the Olympic Games.”

“On 24 September, Egypt President Abdel Fattah al-Sisi gave governmental backing to a possible bid while International Olympic Committee (IOC) president Thomas Bach was visiting the country.”

"We're preparing the letter to [the] IOC, with our intention to present a bid for the 2036 Olympic Games," NOC secretary general Sharif El Erian told BBC Sport Africa.”

"It's time for Africa. It's the only continent that did not host the Summer Olympic Games, and I think Egypt is one of the few countries in Africa where the infrastructure is ready from today to host such a huge event."

Olympic Stadium

 

[Sir Rols]

Okay, this from The Sun, via Fox News, so make of it what you will

Inside insane $78 billion Olympic plan as Egypt builds ‘sport city’ to host Games

[FYI]

With Nusantra, Doha-ha, Ahmedabad & this yet-to-be named Egyptian 'sports city' all flipping over themselves to give the IOC exactly what they're supposedly NOT looking for anymore (super flashy & very expensive *new* stadia, & in these cases, actual new cities), because of the "new-norm", how will the IOC decide to paint that picture then. 

[stryker]

It will never get built. Egypt is practically broke and the Egyptian pound is almost worthless. Even if they did, the IOC is not going to a country where ISIS has a base of operations (the Sinai). 

As for the "it's time for Africa" the IOC has already done that with the YOGs in Dakar and that is the best any African nation can hope for. There's not a single country in Africa capable of hosting the Olympics both logistically and financially.

[Australian Kiwi]

41 minutes ago, stryker said:

It will never get built. Egypt is practically broke and the Egyptian pound is almost worthless. Even if they did, the IOC is not going to a country where ISIS has a base of operations (the Sinai). 

As for the "it's time for Africa" the IOC has already done that with the YOGs in Dakar and that is the best any African nation can hope for. There's not a single country in Africa capable of hosting the Olympics both logistically and financially.

South Africa could, but I don't think the timing is right. I feel like 2032 was quietly meant to be Durban's until everything went pear shaped with the 2022 Commonwealth Games. 

On the topic at hand, I want to like the idea of Cairo but there are just too many risks as others have pointed out. In my mind (and I confess its wrong/ ignorant) I don't really see Cairo as an 'African' Olympics - I think the world is expecting a sub-Saharan Olympics (see my point above about Durban). And then in terms of the first Islamic Summer Olympics host, Cairo isn't even the most realistic option there either with the likes of Istanbul, Dubai or Kuala Lumpur all realistic future options in the 2040s.

[FYI]

^I certainly get where you're going with that perception, cause I wouldn't view an Egyptian Olympics primarily an 'African' Olympics, either. Technically, it's not wrong (& that's why Egypt is wanting to play that card as well), but I agree I would view a (Sub-Sahararan) South African Olympics much more African before an Egypt one. Egypt would mainly be viewed as Arab/Muslim first before African, & pretty sure that's how it would be played out, too. 

It's kinda like 'America', which technically is a continent (not a country), but while also whether wrong/ignorant, a lot of the world still sees it as just meaning the United States, when technically, it can also mean any country on the north & south American continent. And interestingly enough, most people in Latin America when identifying someone from the U.S., they mainly refer to them as "North" American rather than just 'American'. While I'd say that's still technically wrong, it's just the perception within those respective countries that can go either way. 

And I'd also agree that (mainly) Istanbul would be a better option in that respect than Egypt would. IMO an Istanbul Games would also be much more intriguing & picturesque than any of those other cities mentioned.

[iceman530]

Yup, if there is going to be an Asian/Islamic country that gets this, its going to be Istanbul.  And even then, a Poland, Hungary, or South Korea scuttles that.

[Roger87]

13 hours ago, FYI said:

With Nusantra, Doha-ha, Ahmedabad & this yet-to-be named Egyptian 'sports city' all flipping over themselves to give the IOC exactly what they're supposedly NOT looking for anymore (super flashy & very expensive *new* stadia, & in these cases, actual new cities), because of the "new-norm", how will the IOC decide to paint that picture then. 

This is exactly a good point about how determinate they are to defend Agenda 2030. 

Now related to the perception it's understandable. Sure Egypt is geographically in Africa and they still keep interdependency with their closest neighborns in Subsaharian Africa, but culturally and socially speaking is more "Arab" and our main idea of Africa came from the Subsaharian region, outside of the Northern Africa. 

[stryker]

22 hours ago, Australian Kiwi said:

South Africa could, but I don't think the timing is right. I feel like 2032 was quietly meant to be Durban's until everything went pear shaped with the 2022 Commonwealth Games. 

Durban couldn't afford the CWGs. They wouldn't be able to host an Olympics 

[Australian Kiwi]

11 hours ago, stryker said:

Durban couldn't afford the CWGs. They wouldn't be able to host an Olympics 

They didn't have much backing - but it also could be argued that the CGF left them to flail. 

As much as I take issue with the IOC I can't see them setting a host up to fail like the CGF did with Durban.

[stryker]

Egypt has always been a big security risk for a possible Olympics but now the events in Gaza with potential to spill over into the Sinai provide a nice off ramp for the IOC to make the phone call saying when there's peace between the Israelis and the Palestinians we can talk about a Cairo bid. Until then, save your time and money. 

[baron-pierreIV]

ATLANTA 1996 - first "African" Games of the Olympics!!    And one of the first cities to grab the prize on the FIRST TRY!!   (But Cape Town did bid for 2004.)  Loved that logo.  




I'm really surprised South Africa hasn't jumped into the 2036 fray again -- even just as another trial run for 2040 by which time Durban's Olympic Stadium might already be crumbling?  Or maybe because Durban just doesn't have the mass and gravitas to be a competent host, even then??

[FYI]

2 hours ago, baron-pierreIV said:

Or maybe because Durban just doesn't have the mass and gravitas to be a competent host, even then??

If Brisbane can in 2032, then I don't see why Durban can't in 2044. Metro-wise, they're both about the same size now.

[Roger87]

Tbh the Durban Olympic stadium is the least worrisome aspect. It's still in use for athletic and team sports even today. The crown of the city.