SportLightning Posted February 5, 2022 Report Share Posted February 5, 2022 I made a possible Paris 2024 Olympic and Paralympic Cauldron that should fit its art deco styled architechture. What do you think? that should be in front of the Eiffel Tower at the River Seine as possible permanent cauldron. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigVic Posted February 5, 2022 Report Share Posted February 5, 2022 Will be simple and compact similar to the recent ones at Rio, Tokyo and Beijing (W). Don't expect big cauldrons anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SportLightning Posted February 6, 2022 Report Share Posted February 6, 2022 18 hours ago, BigVic said: Will be simple and compact similar to the recent ones at Rio, Tokyo and Beijing (W). Don't expect big cauldrons anymore. We'll see about the cauldron like this that i made. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olympics2028 Posted February 10, 2022 Report Share Posted February 10, 2022 On 2/5/2022 at 12:34 AM, BigVic said: Will be simple and compact similar to the recent ones at Rio, Tokyo and Beijing (W). Don't expect big cauldrons anymore. I still don't get why the one for 2016 was designed by an American for a games held in Rio. The caldron for 2008 was a gigantic red object stuck at the top of the stadium. If the recent ones are too modest, that one was too enormous. The 2020/21 summer games should have used the classic cauldron from 1964. (Hey, recycling is a good thing, IOC/OOC! That's allows for a smaller carbon footprint) That one to me was simple, dignified and just the right size. I think it was one of the top 3 cauldrons in Olympics history. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Rols Posted February 10, 2022 Report Share Posted February 10, 2022 13 minutes ago, Olympics2028 said: I still don't get why the one for 2016 was designed by an American for a games held in Rio. The caldron for 2008 was a gigantic red object stuck at the top of the stadium. If the recent ones are too modest, that one was too enormous. The 2020/21 summer games should have used the classic cauldron from 1964. (Hey, recycling is a good thing, IOC/OOC! That's allows for a smaller carbon footprint) That one to me was simple, dignified and just the right size. I think it was one of the top 3 cauldrons in Olympics history. I think this is one aspect I tend to agree with you on. I also think the cauldron’s have become too gimmicky. Lovely, but gimmicky. Good you’re discovering the board outside the LA forums. The following are good threads if you want o discuss, compare opinions or opine on cauldrons in general: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olympics2028 Posted February 10, 2022 Report Share Posted February 10, 2022 ^ Each summer and winter games is both affected by the previous games and also wants to one-up them. After decades of the Olympic games all following the same general routine, an OOC and its commissioned producer(s) start becoming more and more gimmicky. I understand the current winter games, however, tossed out most of that in its entirety. Since I didn't watch that event, I'm guessing the 2022 OOC didn't re-use the large red cauldron from 2008. Regardless, the fact both the summer and now winter games have been held in the exact same city in just a few decades continues some of the prestige of the "Olympics" becoming a bit less shiny. I posted in the LA2028 thread a link to an article about how a large portion of today's music is now becoming increasingly limited to artists/compositions from decades ago. IOW, even younger fans of music are turning away from what's current and contemporary to oldies from years past. My sense is the "Olympics" - at least symbolically - is seeing a bit of the same thing too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Rols Posted February 10, 2022 Report Share Posted February 10, 2022 8 minutes ago, Olympics2028 said: ^ Each summer and winter games is both affected by the previous games and also wants to one-up them. After decades of the Olympic games all following the same general routine, an OOC and its commissioned producer(s) start becoming more and more gimmicky. I understand the current winter games, however, tossed out most of that in its entirety. Since I didn't watch that event, I'm guessing the 2022 OOC didn't re-use the large red cauldron from 2008. Regardless, the fact both the summer and now winter games have been held in the exact same city in just a few decades continues some of the prestige of the "Olympics" becoming a bit less shiny. I posted in the LA2028 thread a link to an article about how a large portion of today's music is now becoming increasingly limited to artists/compositions from decades ago. IOW, even younger fans of music are turning away from what's current and contemporary to oldies from years past. My sense is the "Olympics" - at least symbolically - is seeing a bit of the same thing too. Now, for THAT discussion, you might want to go to: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AustralianFan Posted February 10, 2022 Author Report Share Posted February 10, 2022 The Greening of Paris Looks like no cauldron, or another planted torch 2022-style, at the Paris 2024 Opening Ceremony Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baron-pierreIV Posted March 17, 2022 Report Share Posted March 17, 2022 That's why the 2024 flame will NOT go on top of the Eiffel Tower. The Eiffel Tower is now 20 feet taller. Here's why. (cnn.com) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotguy II Posted March 17, 2022 Report Share Posted March 17, 2022 Could we see a totally virtual cauldron and flame where instead of changing flashing lights there is a 16 day constant projections of flames on the tower? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baron-pierreIV Posted March 17, 2022 Report Share Posted March 17, 2022 /\/\ That's ridiculous. If I lived around that, I certainly would complain to City Hall -- NOT TO mention the waste of fuel. ANd I am sure many Parisians would see that as ABUSE as well. Get real, Scotguy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PikyoK Posted July 15, 2022 Report Share Posted July 15, 2022 I swear if Paris does what Beijing 2022 did, I don't know what I will do anymore. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigVic Posted July 27, 2022 Report Share Posted July 27, 2022 They could use the entire Eiffel Tower as a cauldron. LA28 will have the Memorial Coliseum Cauldron once again thankfully and a normal cauldron Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_Mex Posted July 27, 2022 Report Share Posted July 27, 2022 36 minutes ago, BigVic said: They could use the entire Eiffel Tower as a cauldron. LA28 will have the Memorial Coliseum Cauldron once again thankfully and a normal cauldron There has been pointed out plenty of times how risky (and expensive) it'd be for them to put the gas systems needed to supply the cauldron au top de la tour eiffel. Also for the sense of the ceremony it'd better be located at the top of the trocadero like here whatever they set up, just hoping they dont go the ridiculous beijing 2022 path, that "caudron" lightning was just underwhelming and unfit for a country like china P.R. if you focus your view, you can barely see a red point. Now imagine if paris did that at an space far bigger than birds nest, it would be unsightable http://www.moriareviews.com/rongulator/wp-content/uploads/A-Trip-to-the-Moon-1902-14.jpg for me something that would be so epic for paris (going more into fan ideas) was to inspire the cauldron from the canyon from "le voyage dans la lune" light it from the bottom and then making like an explosion effect to the top where the flame would be, a little bit like mixing the athens cauldron with the sochi/torino litting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigVic Posted July 28, 2022 Report Share Posted July 28, 2022 Singapore SEA Games 2015's cauldron had a Sochi 2014 feel to it. Domed stadium with an outdoor cauldron Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baron-pierreIV Posted July 28, 2022 Report Share Posted July 28, 2022 Eiffel Tower will NOT be the Cauldron. Not gonna happen. Read previous posts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fusilli Posted August 10, 2022 Report Share Posted August 10, 2022 On 2/10/2022 at 11:58 AM, AustralianFan said: The Greening of Paris Looks like no cauldron, or another planted torch 2022-style, at the Paris 2024 Opening Ceremony Those flying pyramids at the beginning look so cool. I wonder if they could do something like that for the cauldron. Floating-but anchored multiple structure following the river parade. Just thoughts.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olympics2028 Posted August 11, 2022 Report Share Posted August 11, 2022 There were cauldrons well before the format of a torch runner was introduced at the 1936 games in Berlin. If the 2024 OOC wants to be very new and innovative - and carbon friendly - they should dump the concept of a large cauldron entirely and present something that looks like this. Considering what ideas and formats that host committees and their ceremonial producers have been accepting for quite awhile, I don't know if I'm being sarcastic or not: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baron-pierreIV Posted August 11, 2022 Report Share Posted August 11, 2022 It won't be entirely miniscule -- but because it is being held in the city of the birth of gran-gran-pere Baron Pierre de Coubertin, it will be something distinguished and significant. Certainly not megalomaniacally humongous like Beijing 2008 was; but since it will also be Paris' first actual Olympic cauldron, I hope it will be a memorable one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AustralianFan Posted February 23, 2023 Author Report Share Posted February 23, 2023 Paris 2024 Cauldron and Torch Designer Chosen “Applicants were invited to demonstrate their understanding of the organisers’s creative ambition, and Lehanneur was chosen for his "poetic and highly symbolic approach, along with his ability to grasp the values and expectations of Paris 2024," according to Paris 2024.” “Lehanneur is described by French officials as a "designer of eclectic, innovative masterpieces". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baron-pierreIV Posted February 23, 2023 Report Share Posted February 23, 2023 (edited) I think Lehanneur might have been better as their medals designer. French designer Mathieu Lehanneur discusses his new series 50 Seas | Christie's (christies.com) Other Lehanneur designs: Eh on this one . . . Nous verrons. Edited February 23, 2023 by baron-pierreIV 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoshi Posted February 23, 2023 Report Share Posted February 23, 2023 Does having a specific cauldron designer suggest they won't just stick it on the Eiffel Tower? I thought they'd follow the concept art of the opening ceremony with what looked like burning Olympic rings halfway up the Tower... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baron-pierreIV Posted February 24, 2023 Report Share Posted February 24, 2023 1 hour ago, yoshi said: Does having a specific cauldron designer suggest they won't just stick it on the Eiffel Tower? I thought they'd follow the concept art of the opening ceremony with what looked like burning Olympic rings halfway up the Tower... Those are JUST prelim designs, quickly made up for the bid packages -- but NOT vetted by the ET commission or by the Paris Fire Dept. Why do people here perceive preliminary designs as Bible-truth?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigVic Posted March 3, 2023 Report Share Posted March 3, 2023 They'll be a permanent outdoor cauldron that will be lit during the OC and one at the Stade De France for the T&F competitions and Closing Ceremony. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Rols Posted May 23, 2023 Report Share Posted May 23, 2023 So it has indeed now been narrowed down to the Tower: Paris 2024 hopes Olympic Flame will burn at Eiffel Tower during Games So the question now is, what stage of the tower if not the top? And will his be the main cauldron, or an ancillary, or on of a number. For sure it seems it will be the one lit during the ceremony. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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