Ahmedabad 2036

[baron-pierreIV]

11 hours ago, Roger87 said:

Barcelona recently said no way. No more tourists.

If JAS, Jr. is running strong for IOC president, I am sure he can assuage Barcelona citizenry to change their minds. 

[Roger87]

5 hours ago, baron-pierreIV said:

If JAS, Jr. is running strong for IOC president, I am sure he can assuage Barcelona citizenry to change their minds. 

Going to the recent political sphere of Spain, JAS should be more worried of the fall of Isabel DIaz Ayuso (Involved in corruption scandals linked with sporting events). 

His power has been completely dismissed in the recent years and he's not the father. He's like the "Infantas" of King Juan Carlos - neophite nepo babies.

[texan]

9 hours ago, Roger87 said:

This. Also, the European Games and UEFA Euro is still happening in Turkiye after all. One of the proposed stadiums is near of the border of Syria (Although that can change)

So what? There are minefields, walls, and trenches all along the border. Gaziantep is probably safer than Paris considering the number of terrorist attacks. What's your point here? 

[sebastien1214]

4 hours ago, texan said:

Gaziantep is probably safer than Paris considering the number of terrorist attacks. 

What is this completely stupid opinion?

[texan]

14 hours ago, sebastien1214 said:

What is this completely stupid opinion?

First of all, watch your language. Then, it is statistically the truth. Paris had many more terror attacks then Gaziantep did. Being close to Syria means nothing. 

[Sir Rols]

Reports out of India are now suggesting Delhi is emerging as the front-runner to be India’s bidder:

Times of India - The Taj Mahal could be central to India's 2036 Olympic bid

India.com - Not Ahmedabad or Mumbai, India will bid for Olympics 2036 keeping THIS historic place in mind….

[baron-pierreIV]

Delhi really makes more sense . . .  in February or March -- NOT in July - September!!  

[Sir Rols]

12 hours ago, baron-pierreIV said:

Delhi really makes more sense . . .  in February or March -- NOT in July - September!!  

Not just the monsoon though - and who knows what climate change will do to it: delay it? extend it? extinguish it? And remember how they had that run of 50C plus days earlier this year? - but the air quality is atrocious. Shades of Beijing.

‘The air is killing us’: why Delhi’s pollution problem runs deeper than smog season

And as for the “showpiece” Taj Mahal

[baron-pierreIV]

I wasn't even thinking about the smog around the Delhi plains in July-September.  It's the ABSOLUTE HEAT and HUMIDITY that wilts even mad dogs and Englishmen!!

I visited in late February and when the sun was out mid-day in the capital, i could already feel a little winter sweat building under my neck.  That is why Gandhi was half-naked ALL THE TIME!! 

[Sir Rols]

India eyes multi-city hosting for 2036 Olympics

 

 

[baron-pierreIV]

/\  They're skipping (the Black Hole of Kolkotta) but giving Rowing to Bhopal where there was the Union Carbide Industrial Gas Disaster (like Chernobyl) took place in . . .  hold your breath . . . 1984!! At least they're including Mumbai for Cricket -- so can Bollywood do musical numbers about Cricket?? 

BTW, just thinking . . . there have been other conflagrations:

- Manila (being the 2nd most destroyed city of WW2 after Warsaw, shone again in 8 years' time after 1945 with the Philippines International Exposition of 1953, the first World's Fair ever in Asia);
- London (3x Olympic host); the Blitzkreig 1941-44; the Thalidomide catastrophes in the 1960s
- Chicago (1866),
- Atlanta (when General Sherman burned down probably was a smallish city of maybe 20 blocks downtown),

Other disasters . . . 
- Fukushima (for Tokyo 2020 / Covid in 2020, so rest for 2021);
- New York, Sept 11 -- (but New Jersey will have the United 2026 Finals . . .) 
- Bhopal (probable 2036 🤪) 
- and now, LA'25, in-between its 1984 and 2028 hostings!  

Of the world's infamous disasters, so maybe Ukraine can hope to have Gymnastics in Chernobyl someday?  The PanAm Games in Lahaina, Maui?? 🫢

Edited January 12, 2025 by baron-pierreIV

[sebastien1214]

1 hour ago, Sir Rols said:

India eyes multi-city hosting for 2036 Olympics

 

 

If I believe the image that goes with the Tweet, I wouldn't really call these "multi-city" games, we are still much closer to the Paris model which had a few events in Marseille, Chateauroux, Lille & Tahiti but 80-85% in Paris, than a model like Milano-Cortina or the French Alps.

[texan]

 

These cities are not even close to each other. 

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[texan]

Here is the map. I. couldnt add to my previous post.

[Sir Rols]

9 minutes ago, texan said:

 

These cities are not even close to each other. 

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Neither is Oklahoma City (not to mention New Jersey - cricket - to LA). Or Tahiti to Paris. Or Hong Kong to Beijing. Hardly a deal breaker, especially in the “New Norm” era.

As Sebastien pointed out, to all intents and purposes the plan is still very Ahmedabad-centric. Any highlighting of other far venues is more likely for domestic market Kc purposes.

[texan]

26 minutes ago, Sir Rols said:

Neither is Oklahoma City (not to mention New Jersey - cricket - to LA). Or Tahiti to Paris. Or Hong Kong to Beijing. Hardly a deal breaker, especially in the “New Norm” era.

As Sebastien pointed out, to all intents and purposes the plan is still very Ahmedabad-centric. Any highlighting of other far venues is more likely for domestic market Kc purposes.

I am aware of that but Oklahoma City and Tahiti are only for one kind of sporting event. In this case, if I want to watch hockey, kayaking, rowing, cricket, and volleyball I would have to travel more than 2500 km. This is like hosting the Games in Istanbul, Sofia, Vienna, Luxembourg, and Paris.

[texan]

They tried this pan-European hosting for Euro 2020 and it was the most boring sporting event ever. I know it was right after the pandemic but you would expect it to be alive since the world was starting to open. There was no soul since people kept moving from one city to another. 

[Sir Rols]

26 minutes ago, texan said:

I am aware of that but Oklahoma City and Tahiti are only for one kind of sporting event. In this case, if I want to watch hockey, kayaking, rowing, cricket, and volleyball I would have to travel more than 2500 km. This is like hosting the Games in Istanbul, Sofia, Vienna, Luxembourg, and Paris.

And what if I want to attend cricket, kayaking and athletics in LA? Or wanted to see handball;, sailing, surfing and swimming in Paris? It’s always a trade-off for visitors. And likely to become more common under the “New Norm:.

22 minutes ago, texan said:

They tried this pan-European hosting for Euro 2020 and it was the most boring sporting event ever. I know it was right after the pandemic but you would expect it to be alive since the world was starting to open. There was no soul since people kept moving from one city to another. 

I don’t think that’s comparable. And you’re going to get bigger distances in WC 2026.

India/Ahmedabad’s bid has it’s issues - political, social, climatic - it needs to address. I don’t think this preliminary (and unconfirmed venue plan is one of them or would be much to be concerned about or kill its chances.

[StefanMUC]

15 hours ago, Sir Rols said:

India eyes multi-city hosting for 2036 Olympics

 

 

Well I find this funny given that DOSB seems to be moving away from its nationwide/multiple-regions bid idea for whatever year they decide to put a German bid forward.

Plus Switzerland having to adapt their 2038 plans to accomodate the IOC. But maybe India curries the favours better (pun intended, just had some nice Indian food for lunch).

[Sir Rols]

8 hours ago, StefanMUC said:

Well I find this funny given that DOSB seems to be moving away from its nationwide/multiple-regions bid idea for whatever year they decide to put a German bid forward.

Plus Switzerland having to adapt their 2038 plans to accomodate the IOC. But maybe India curries the favours better (pun intended, just had some nice Indian food for lunch).

It still looks very Ahmedabad heavy to me, though. Not really much difference in terms of spread from recent hosts. I think calling it a country-wide plan is stretching it.

Anyway, if Watanabe wins the presidency, it’s all moot. We can look forward in 2036 to Basketball in Berlin, Badminton in Beijing, Boxing in Boston, Biking in Bloemfontein and Breaking in Brisbane!

[baron-pierreIV]

Hmmmm.  Did Musk and Modi talk Olympics '36 as well?  

India's Modi meets with Tesla, SpaceX CEO Musk in Washington 

[baron-pierreIV]

Not the Ambanis. but is BAZ Events auditioning for CWG 2030 and/or 2036 OGs Ceremonies portfolio? 
 

Apparently, this is outside Hyderabad.  

[texan]

At least 18 people died in a stampede at a New Delhi railway station during the world's largest religious event.

I wonder what could happen during the world's largest sporting event. This is unacceptable because China has more than a billion people as well but we don't hear such incidents.

https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/20250216-18-dead-in-india-stampede-to-catch-trains-to-hindu-mega-festival

[Sir Rols]

1 hour ago, texan said:

This is unacceptable because China has more than a billion people as well but we don't hear such incidents.

 

Shanghai new year crush kills 36

That was in 2015. You might also want to look up similar incidents in England, Germany, Korea and more. All are tragic.

[texan]

10 minutes ago, Sir Rols said:

Shanghai new year crush kills 36

That was in 2015. You might also want to look up similar incidents in England, Germany, Korea and more. All are tragic.

Okay, I didn't see that, but it still doesn’t justify the tragic event in India.

First of all, the incident in India occurred in a public transportation setting, while the one in China was sparked by people stopping to pick up fake money thrown from a nightclub balcony. These are two very different situations.

The Indian incident highlights the failure of the overcrowded transportation system, whereas the Chinese event was an unforeseen turn of events.