Brisbane 2032

[AustralianFan]

On 8/28/2024 at 11:55 PM, AustralianFan said:

Brisbane/SEQ is having a warm August at the moment so probably the effects of climate change.  August 2032 might have drier weather for the Games than we anticipated.

A record breaking hot 🥵 August day in Brisbane today 35C / 95F on the second last day of winter.  This is 15C / 59F above average.

[Roger87]

On 8/22/2024 at 5:16 PM, Gonzo said:

Welcome to the world of Brisbane folks, nothing to see here, just a place where snakes eat Kangaroos in inner city suburbia

Plan your 2032 trip now!

 

Well... 

There's a joke about how teenagers in Australia are trained to fight against snakes and sharks. 

[AustralianFan]

A little distraction from the Stadium issue:

While this below is not an Olympics specific project, this development at Howard Smith Wharves Waterfront would be a smash hit during the Games if it gets up. It would be absolutely buzzing.

I loved visiting the existing outlets there under the Storey Bridge post-Covid and it is such a great place to eat, drink and hang out in a beautiful spot by the river.  But in 2032 it surely would be packed to the rafters and full of spectators, tourists, Brisbane-ites and maybe some athletes who have finished competing.

Tourist developments along the Brisbane River are certainly amping up for this Olympic City.

The new, huge Queens Wharf development is another example.

 

[Sir Rols]

Nice test event

AOC welcomes news Brisbane will host UCI Track Cycling World Championship in 2030

[stryker]

https://www.skynews.com.au/australia-news/sport/queensland-labor-criticised-amid-olympic-budget-blowout-for-2032-brisbane-games/video/8ac6c259d9c7ca9698db49bd324b2e7b

Anybody surprised? To think people actually bought John Coates' line about a Brisbane Olympics costing something like 1.5 billion. This is shaping up to be a big budget blowout, and the spin will be, hey at least we're not Sochi.

[AustralianFan]

Love this 🥰 …

 

[AustralianFan]

 

9 minutes ago, TorchbearerSydney said:

Q; To be fair, changing the “July-August” time window, would not only allow middle-East bid but also to quite a few Southern hemisphere countries (including part of Australia).

Brisbane 2032 needs to be moved- mid winter is a pretty sad time to be hosting a Games at a beach/resort location. I have been there the last 2 Julys and its was pretty cold and grim- and was even snowing not thaaat far away in the Ranges.

Yes I heard it can get nippy in Brisbane at that time of the year.  Spectators are going to have to take extra layers to venues given that the IOC is not going to change the dates of the Brisbane 2032 Olympic Games.

Will be great for athletes though to compete at their best in a cooler climate for a change which is sub-tropical Brisbane during winter.

[AustralianFan]

11 minutes ago, AustralianFan said:

Yes I heard it can get nippy in Brisbane at that time of the year.  Spectators are going to have to take extra layers to venues given that the IOC is not going to change the dates of the Brisbane 2032 Olympic Games.

Will be great for athletes though to compete at their best in a cooler climate for a change which is sub-tropical Brisbane during winter.

@TorchbearerSydney I mean the IOC could change the dates for Brisbane 2032 to a warmer time of year for spectators but the basis for moving them would only be that, and not due to any concerns for the safety of the athletes who would thrive in the cooler months of July/August, Brisbane’s sub-tropical winter period.

So since the safety of athletes are their prime concern, and spectators will be ok if they bring warmer clothes, I just can’t see the IOC wanting to move the dates of the Brisbane Games.

The global climate continues to warm and by 2032, who knows? This past August Brisbane had a record breaking very hot 35 degree celcius day. 

 

[TorchbearerSydney]

Q:So since the safety of athletes are their prime concern,

Athletes are not 'safe' in cold conditions- it is both detrimental to performance and can cause injuries.

I am not suggesting moving Brisbane to the heat of summer- just the warmth and comfort of Spring (like Sydney).

[AustralianFan]

1 hour ago, TorchbearerSydney said:

Q:So since the safety of athletes are their prime concern,

Athletes are not 'safe' in cold conditions- it is both detrimental to performance and can cause injuries.

I am not suggesting moving Brisbane to the heat of summer- just the warmth and comfort of Spring (like Sydney).

The 2032 Games awarded to Brisbane by the IOC on the basis of the assessed weather and temperatures at that time of the year, July/August and projected to 2032 with data from the World Meteorological Organisation.

The IOC Feasibility Asessment - Olympic Games Brisbane covers this on pages 52 and 53, as follows:

 

The IOC Future Host Commission also obtained data on the effects of global warming on Brisbane’s July/August temperatures:

Rest assured, there is absolutely no risk to the health, safety or performance of the athletes at Brisbane 2032 otherwise the IOC would not have awarded the Games to them.  Consequently, the IOC will not be changing the dates of the Brisbane 2032 Games.

Spectators may need to bring an extra layer but athlete performance will be absolutely fine in these cooler conditions.

[yoshi]

?!?!?!?!

Any truth to this? Tbh I can't really see it as the final logo (it's very plain) but I guess you never know...

(And if you think you could do a better job of designing an Olympic logo, head over to the 18th GB logo comp thread, where Singapore 2036 & Salt Lake City 2034 need your help! You might even get on Google image search with the latter )

[Victorian]

9 hours ago, yoshi said:

?!?!?!?!

Any truth to this? Tbh I can't really see it as the final logo (it's very plain) but I guess you never know...

(And if you think you could do a better job of designing an Olympic logo, head over to the 18th GB logo comp thread, where Singapore 2036 & Salt Lake City 2034 need your help! You might even get on Google image search with the latter )

I doubt that is the logo. Almost certainly it will include some indigenous design

[AustralianFan]

13 hours ago, yoshi said:

?!?!?!?!

Any truth to this? Tbh I can't really see it as the final logo (it's very plain) but I guess you never know...

(And if you think you could do a better job of designing an Olympic logo, head over to the 18th GB logo comp thread, where Singapore 2036 & Salt Lake City 2034 need your help! You might even get on Google image search with the latter )

 

3 hours ago, Victorian said:

I doubt that is the logo. Almost certainly it will include some indigenous design

I agree, I highly doubt that the redditt posted logo design is no more than an attention grabbing stunt by some random person who is in no way connected with the Games.

On the topic of the evolution of the Brisbane 2032 logo, perhaps the primary colours for it comes from the official Brisbane 2032 Games website.

The “Q” in ‘Q2032’ has quite distinctive aqua blue and yellow-ish tones with an underlying Indigenous storyline.

Perhaps this a hint of what is to come whenever the final logo is announced?

 

[AustralianFan]

Following a discussion in the LA 2028 thread re which sports will or may continue on to Brisbane 2032:

Brisbane 2032 Sports

 So Brisbane 2032 currently has 41 total sports with the final Brisbane 2032 program expected to be finalised in next 3-4 years with additional sports.

At bottom of the list in italics are at this time the sports in contention, that we know about, for continuance at Brisbane 2032.

1. Archery
2. Artistic Gymnastics
3. Artistic Swimming
4. Athletics
5. Badminton
6. Basketball
7. Basketball 3x3
8. Beach Volleyball
9. BMX Freestyle
10. BMX Racing
11. Canoe Slalom
12. Canoe Sprint
13. Diving
14. Equestrian
15. Fencing
16. Football
17. Golf
18. Gymnastics
19. Handball
20. Hockey 
21. Indoor Volleyball
22. Judo
23. Marathon
24. Marathon Swimming
25. Modern Pentathlon
26. Mountain Bike
27. Race Walk
28. Road Cycling
29. Rowing
30. Rugby Sevens
31. Sailing
32. Shooting
33. Swimming
34. Table Tennis
35. Taekwondo
36. Tennis
37. Track Cycling
38. Triathlon
39. Water Polo
40. Weightlifting
41. Wrestling
42. Baseball / Softball - a chance to continue at Brisbane 2032 from LA2028
43. Cricket - hot chance to continue at Brisbane 2032 from LA2028
44. Flag football - a chance to continue at Brisbane 2032 from LA2028
45. Lacrosse - a chance to continue at Brisbane 2032 from LA2028
46. Squash - a chance to continue at Brisbane 2032 from LA2028
47. Sport Climbing - became permanent following Tokyo 2020, Paris 2024, LA2028 and will be formally added to the final Brisbane 2032 sports program as a permanent Olympic sport in next 3-4 years
48. Surfing - became permanent following Tokyo 2020, Paris 2024, LA2028 and will be formally added to the final Brisbane 2032 sports program as a permanent Olympic sport in next 3-4 years
49. *Boxing - a good chance to be contested at Brisbane 2032 if world governing body issues are sorted 

[cfm Jeremie]

This list is not a list of sports. You are mixing up sports and disciplines as we have demonstrated to you in the LA28 thread….

[AustralianFan]

4 hours ago, cfm Jeremie said:

This list is not a list of sports.

Yes @cfm Jeremie , I am absolutely following the IOC sports listings exactly for each Games.

Yes, I’m telling the truth of how the IOC lists the sports for each Games and as I have just done in the LA 2028 thread I have given you IOC screenshots of how the IOC lists their sports using Paris 2024 and LA 2028 as examples.

You might not like it which is fine or you can take it up with the IOC if you want to know the rationale why they lists some sports separately even though some come under the same international sporting federation. 

I’ll even give you the IOC  details if you wish to ask them why they list sports this way?

click on this link to >> Contact the IOC - International Olympic Committee 

In the meantime, here’s the IOC screenshots to see how the IOC lists the LA2028 and Brisbane 2032 sports as examples:

Brisbane Region:  29 sports disciplines (IOC):

Gold Coast Region: 14 Sports Disciplines (IOC):

Sunshine Coast Region:  9 Sports Disciplines (IOC):

1. Archery - Brisbane
2. Artistic Gymnastics - Brisbane
3. Artistic Swimming - Brisbane
4. Athletics - Brisbane
5. Badminton - Brisbane
6. Basketball - Brisbane
7. Basketball 3x3 - Brisbane
8. Beach Volleyball - Gold Coast
9. BMX Freestyle - Brisbane
10. BMX Racing - Brisbane
11. Canoe Slalom - Brisbane
12. Canoe Sprint - Scenic Rim
13. Diving - Brisbane
14. Equestrian - Brisbane
15. Fencing - Brisbane
16. Football - Brisbane, Cairns, Gold Coast, Melbourne, Sydney, Townsville
17. Golf - Brisbane
18. Gymnastics - Brisbane
19. Handball - Brisbane
20. Hockey - Brisbane
21. Indoor Volleyball - Gold Coast
22. Judo - Gold Coast
23. Marathon - Sunshine Coast
24. Marathon Swimming - Gold Coast
25. Modern Pentathlon - Brisbane
26. Mountain Bike - Sunshine Coast
27. Race Walk - Sunshine Coast
28. Road Cycling - Sunshine Coast
29. Rowing - Scenic Rim
30. Rugby Sevens - Brisbane
31. Sailing - Brisbane
32. Shooting - Brisbane
33. Swimming - Brisbane
34. Table Tennis - Brisbane
35. Taekwondo - Brisbane
36. Tennis - Brisbane
37. Track Cycling - Brisbane
38. Triathlon - Gold Coast
39. Water Polo - Brisbane
40. Weightlifting - Gold Coast
41. Wrestling - Gold Coast

[cfm Jeremie]

Thanks for demonstrating my case: in the screenshot for Brisbane it is explicitely written “Sports Disciplines”. DISCIPLINES!

You are counting disciplines, not sports as I had tried to explain to you.

[cfm Jeremie]

And one last thing regarding Paris.

IOC final report on Paris 2024 : page 12 “32 sports 48 disciplines”

[AustralianFan]

 

3 hours ago, Quaker2001 said:

We're arguing semantics here because it can work either way.  Some definitions of "cycling" include all the disciplines under 1 banner.  Others split them all off individually.  Neither is technically wrong.  Although with your original list, I've never seen the marathons and race walks split off from athletics.  Those have never been separate entities

 

1 hour ago, baron-pierreIV said:

OK, here's what going on, AF.  Traditionally, it should be one Federation -- one sport.  It's an easier way to do it.  During the Games, the COJO has to host, interface and deal with all the participating and relevant Federations -- so, from that POV, it is easier for the COJO to keep track of them.  
(And that, I believe, is how Casey Wasserman counted his sports -- and then adding FIVE MORE to reach 34 sports -- thereby matching the XXXIVth marker of the upcoming Games.)
But the IOC, has lately, decided to also expand and be more granular with their list of sports -- make their Games be more INCLUSVE (specially as Paris 2024 decided to go hog wild with the Pictograms.  And as the various federations are also undergoing re-branding as World X-X-X:  World Athletics, World Swimming, etc., etc.  All just getting a facelift.)  
AF, if you go by the lower-level breakdown of sports, then you will be approaching the 49-50 mark.  I can choose whichever list I want to go by.  I am NOT bound by any oaths of which listing I have to swear by.  
 

(ALso, because there are FEWER disciplines competed in the WOGs, the IOC & COJOs break down Ice Events of the ISU to 3 disciplines (Figure Skating, Short-Track Speed Skating and Long-Track Speed Skating) to give the appearance of a fuller slate.  Now, remember, Curling also takes place on flat ice -- but it is a different Federation.  
So, it's really which poison you want to take.  I like the more MAJOR sports heading & classification.  (As Quaker just said, the Marathons and Foot Races (even though they take they take them out of the main stadium for an airing -- depending on the host city), those are always administered by World Athletics/ex-IAAF. 

Thankyou @Quaker2001 and @baron-pierreIV for your these responses over on the LA2028 thread.

Yes, fully agree.

The breakdown of sports at each Games by the IOC seems to be a thing for the public.  

[Brisbane Boy]

I noticed a few posts regarding Brisbane can get a bit chilly in winter for what is classed as the Summer Olympics.

I have lived in Brisbane for 71 years and yes it can feel a bit cold to us locals, but most tourists still go swimming on the beaches at the Gold and Sunshine Coasts. Surfboard riders prefer the cleaner breaks in winter. It is also slightly warmer on those two coastline venue locations.

In reality Brisbane is at its coldest in the evenings from around 8-10pm onwards till about 9am the following morning.

From 9am- 5pm you get regular sunny beautiful weather. You can be unlucky when visiting cities for a holiday and get something unexpected from what you read about. 

The two main football codes played in Australia are played during winter. The better quality and marketing games are usually scheduled to be played at night. Usually starting from 7pm-8pm. Most Olympic athletes should not have a problem handlining the weather if their sport in scheduled outdoors at an evening session.

The weather bureau lists 9am mean temperatures as this when things warm up and 3pm as this is when things start to get cooler in Brisbane. A link for anyone interested

Climate statistics for Australian locations

SUMMARY from link

	July	August
Mean max temperature C	20.4 (68.7 F)	21.8 (71.2 F)
Mean min temperature C	9.5 (49.1 F)	10.3 (50.5 F)
Mean daily sunshine hours	7.4	7.9
Number of clear days	15.2	15.4
Mean 9 am temperature C	13.7 (56.7 F)	15.4 (59.7 F)
Mean 3 pm temperature C	19.5 (67.1 F)	20.7 (69.2 F)

Those are the mean temperatures. Below the actual daily maximum temperatures for July/August 2024.

I have gone up if it was above 0.5 and down under 0.5 so 23.4 is 23 and 26.5 is 27. Starting from the 1st of the month.

Anyone from overseas and use Fahrenheit a guide: 16C=60.8F, 20C=68F, 25C=77F, 30C=86F, 33C=91.4F. 

Underlined dates are the proposed Olympic dates.

July: 20,17,20,21,22,22,22,21,22,24,24,24,21,20,19,19,16,19,21,23,21,22,23,24,24,25,23,22,20,21,22

July: 22 days without any rainfall recorded. 3 days with rainfall over 3mm (0.12 inches).

August: 22,22,23,23,22,23,23,20,23,24,24,21,21,20 26,28,30,25,24,23,25,26,26,26,27,28,28,30,32,30,33

August: 23 days without any rainfall recorded. 4 days with rainfall over 3mm (0.12 inches).

 

[TorchbearerSydney]

I have been to the Gold Coast the last 2 winters- my God what a chilly, miserable place the beach was. I cant imagine how horrible competing in those conditions will be .

I am a big ocean swimmer, but the sea was huge and thundering- and chilly.

A Games in September would have been bliss...

[Sir Rols]

It’s unlikely the temperatures will be extreme enough to affect athletics performance one way or the other. They’re professional athletes and should be prepared for whatever conditions are thrown at them, within reason.

But it’s likely to be a dampener on the actual enjoyment of the games. It’s one thing to say “just throw on a jumper or overcoat”, but it’s a real pity to miss out on one of the real joys of the summer games - the whole summer festival aspect of them. Enjoying a once in a lifetime event and partying outdoors when your city is at its best and cheeriest, in summer. When days are long, cafes and restaurants and outdoors venues are teeming with people enjoying the season in shorts and t-shirts and soaking up the atmosphere.

Actually, speaking of long days - is Queensland contemplating relaxing their aversion to daylight savings during the games? One of the great things in 2000 was when we brought forward daylight savings for the games to make the most of daylight. Or are we going to see the city going dark at 5:30pm? Between that and the winter, there’s a real risk of a gloomy games.

As Torchbearer says, September would have been bliss… just imagine showcasing the city to the world when Spring is lifting the mood and the jacarandas are blooming spectacularly and showcase the city at its prettiest.

I’m sure it will still be a fun and exciting time for the city but not as much as it could, or should, be. And not as charming and enticing as it could or should be to our international guests.

Edited January 6, 2025 by Sir Rols

[Brisbane Boy]

3 hours ago, TorchbearerSydney said:

I have been to the Gold Coast the last 2 winters- my God what a chilly, miserable place the beach was. I cant imagine how horrible competing in those conditions will be .

I am a big ocean swimmer, but the sea was huge and thundering- and chilly.

A Games in September would have been bliss...

Sorry to hear about that.

Spending good money on a holiday and getting bad weather is never great for anyone.

Brisbane had very good weather during the 2024 winter with only 8 days in total of rain of any note.

Four consecutive days the 12th-15th total 68mm (39mm on the 14th) being in August. 

Both the Gold and Sunshine Coasts are about 100klm away so can have different weather but usually very similar to Brisbane.

[Brisbane Boy]

1 hour ago, Sir Rols said:

It’s unlikely the temperatures will be extreme enough to affect athletics performance one way or the other. They’re professional athletes and should be prepared for whatever conditions are thrown at them, within reason.

But it’s likely to be a dampener on the actual enjoyment of the games. It’s one thing to say “just throw on a jumper or overcoat”, but it’s a real pity to miss out on one of the real joys of the summer games - the whole summer festival aspect of them. Enjoying a once in a lifetime event and partying outdoors when your city is at its best and cheeriest, in summer. When days are long, cafes and restaurants and outdoors venues are teeming with people enjoying the season in shorts and t-shirts and soaking up the atmosphere.

Actually, speaking of long days - is Queensland contemplating relaxing their aversion to daylight savings during the games? One of the great things in 2000 was when we brought forward daylight savings for the games to make the most of daylight. Or are we going to see the city going dark at 5:30pm? Between that and the winter, there’s a real risk of a gloomy games.

As Torchbearer says, September would have been bliss… just imagine showcasing the city to the world when Spring is lifting the mood and the jacarandas are blooming spectacularly and showcase the city at its prettiest.

I’m sure it will still be a fun and exciting time for the city but not as much as it could, or should, be. And not as charming and enticing as it could or should be to our international guests.

The Sydney games were in September and daylight saving was bought forward for the games as you mentioned.

A reasonable thing to do as daylight times are longer in spring and it naturally flowed into the usual daylight-saving summer times for one year only.

Being winter and having shorter daylight hours in Brisbane anyhow i can't see much benefit in daylight saving. 

Even if they did it would only be for 1 month and just think it would be too much disruption for very little benefit

There just are not enough daylight hours to re-distribute them out in winter as you can in summer and even September.

[Brisbane Boy]

13 of the last 15 summer games have been held in the July/August timeframe.

Only Sydney 2000 and Seoul in 1988 was held at another time both in September.

So, we probably did not have much choice as that is the usual time to have the Olympics.

I suppose having it in a different month throws out all sorts of sports championships and world championships.