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34 minutes ago, Australian Kiwi said:

Crazy decision to give $4bn in federal cash. Zero national benefit. 

 

34 minutes ago, Australian Kiwi said:

Also so much for the lean and frugal Olympics - watch this become a more expensive feat than Sydney 2000. 

“Frugal” & Olympics never really go hand-in-hand. And I seriously doubt that they ever have, no matter how much spin some bid committees have put on that (looking mainly @ L.A. with that one). 
 

But hey, as long as Coates got what he wanted, what does he care how much money 2032 ends up costing the average  Australian taxpayer.

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“The overhaul of the Gabba stadium will be solely funded by the Queensland government, while the federal government will create a new 17,000-seat Brisbane Live arena at Roma Street.”

“Another $2 billion has been earmarked to upgrade existing venues and build smaller facilities, the ABC reported on Friday.”

 

 

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4 minutes ago, ulu said:

Brisbane Live needed to be done with or without the Olympics so the only shock is the price tag for the Gabba which is a bit hard to stomach considering it's going to be only slightly bigger than it already is.

Now that’s interesting.

Today they announced the school will be moved and rebuilt in another location.

Makes it very intriguing about what the capacity of the Olympic Gabba Stadium will be -  could it be nudged up beyond 50,000 any further?

We wait now for the final stadium design.

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Australian Government Media Release:

MEDIA RELEASE
17 Feb 2023

Prime Minister, Premier of Queensland, Minister for Infrastructure, Transport, Regional Development and Local Government, Deputy Premier of Queensland

With the eyes of the world on Brisbane, Prime Minister Anthony Albanese and Premier Annastacia Palaszczuk are delivering the important infrastructure that will be at the heart of the Brisbane 2032 Olympic and Paralympic Games and leave an enduring Games legacy.


The Queensland Government will fund the $2.7 billion redevelopment of the Gabba while the Federal Government will provide $2.5 billion for the Brisbane Arena development. Sixteen new or upgraded venues will receive close to $1.87 billion in co-funding on a 50/50 basis between the two governments.


This significant agreement will help Brisbane run a Games that will do Australia proud and leave a substantial legacy long after the closing ceremony.
Brisbane Arena is planned to be built within the Roma Street precinct with easy access for people of all mobilities to the city’s rail and bus network.


It will host Olympic and Paralympic swimming, and water polo finals, completing the list of venues that will put 16 Olympic sports within walking distance of each other.

The Gabba redevelopment, along with Cross River Rail and the Brisbane Metro will anchor a major urban renewal of Woolloongabba delivering more housing, more jobs, and better connectivity.


Access to the railway network provides fast, clean, green and easy connectivity to the rest of the south-east region.


Importantly, all venues provide city building capacity with economic and social benefits lasting well beyond 2032.


Prime Minister Anthony Albanese said all of Australia is backing Brisbane 2032.
“The 2032 Olympic and Paralympic Games will be the largest event that’s ever been held in Queensland.”


“The Australian Government has worked cooperatively with the Palaszczuk Government to secure infrastructure projects that will have a long-term and transformational impact on Queensland as we count down to 2032.”


“My Government is ensuring that every dollar that is invested has lasting benefits, not just for Brisbane but for all Queenslanders and all Australians.”

 

Premier Annastacia Palaszczuk said it is important to remember no project is built solely for the few weeks of Games competition.


“For example, the Gabba has hosted sport for more than a century and is home to cricket and AFL most weeks of the year,” the Premier said.


“It must be upgraded to maintain our competitiveness for international sport and events.


“Brisbane Arena will provide a new indoor entertainment centre – something Brisbane’s CBD has not had since the demolition of Festival Hall in 2003.”


Federal Infrastructure, Transport, Regional Development and Local Government Minister Catherine King said the projects will be fiscally responsible and are in accord with the International Olympic Committee’s ‘New Norm’.


“Brisbane 2032 will be another opportunity to show what Australia can do, but more than that, it will provide a lasting benefit for Australia.”


“Better infrastructure, and building in a lower emissions environment, will not only mean the best for the athletes of the world, but that communities will have great spaces and places to use into the future.”


“I look forward to working cooperatively with Queensland on these important projects.”

Deputy Premier Steven Miles said the Games are forecast to deliver $8.1 billion in economic and social benefits to Queensland and more than $17.6 billion to Australia.


“Queensland’s population is booming, and the Games legacy will be infrastructure to cater for this growth and ensure our Queensland lifestyle in the coming decades.


“Infrastructure like Brisbane Arena and The Gabba have benefits that reach far beyond the next nine and a half years, delivering jobs and investment.


“The Gabba revitalisation will transform Brisbane providing an opportunity for more housing and an active travel corridor to South Bank and the CBD.”


The Australian and Queensland Governments are also investing in the SEQ City Deal which will deliver social, environmental and economic benefits for communities in the region and support the delivery and legacy of the Brisbane 2032 Olympic and Paralympic Games.

Brisbane Arena

  1. New 17,000 seat CBD indoor entertainment venue
  2. Proposed Roma St location to be serviced by new Cross River Rail Brisbane Underground and existing train and bus services; and will be close to Suncorp Stadium
  3. Hosts 2032 Olympic and Paralympic Swimming and Water Polo
  4. Construction planned to start 2027. Completion 2030.

Gabba Stadium

  1. New 50,000 seat stadium
  2. Olympic and Paralympic Athletics and Ceremonies
  3. New Pedestrian walkway linking to new Cross River Rail and Brisbane Metro
  4. Two minute Cross River Rail access to Brisbane CBD
  5. Construction planned to start 2026. Completion 2030.

Additional Venues

  1. Upgrade 9 existing venues: 
    1. Wyaralong Flatwater Centre and Precinct – Rowing
    2. Sunshine Coast Stadium – Football
    3. Brisbane Aquatic Centre and Precinct – Aquatics (including diving, artistic swimming and water polo preliminaries)
    4. Barlow Park (Cairns) – Football
    5. Toowoomba Sports Ground – Football
    6. Brisbane International Shooting Centre – Shooting
    7. Sunshine Coast Mountain Bike Centre – Mountain Biking
    8. Anna Meares Velodrome and BMX Track – Track, BMX Racing
    9. Queensland Tennis Centre – Tennis

 

  1. Construction of 5 news venues: 
    1. Breakfast Creek (Brisbane) Indoor Sports Centre – Basketball and Wheelchair Basketball
    2. Chandler Indoor Sports Centre – Gymnastics and Wheelchair Basketball
    3. Sunshine Coast Indoor Sports Centre – Basketball
    4. Moreton Bay Indoor Sports Centre – Boxing
    5. Redlands Whitewater Centre – Canoe
  2. Temporary International Broadcasting Centre
  3. Logan Indoor Sports Centre as a potential training or competition venue
  4. Minor upgrades to existing competition and training venues.
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3 hours ago, AustralianFan said:

Now that’s interesting.

Today they announced the school will be moved and rebuilt in another location.

Makes it very intriguing about what the capacity of the Olympic Gabba Stadium will be -  could it be nudged up beyond 50,000 any further?

We wait now for the final stadium design.

The school buildings will be retained.

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The heritage buildings within the East Brisbane State School will be refurbished and repurposed and integrated into the operations of the Gabba Stadium.

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“The closest existing alternative to the Gabba is Carrara Stadium, which the Lions would have to share with the Gold Coast Suns during their home's redevelopment, and would require the devoted Brisbane AFL faithful to travel an additional 70 kilometres.”

”Queensland Sports Minister Stirling Hinchliffe has previously revealed upgrading Brisbane's RNA Showgrounds at a cost of $80 million could be another possibility.”

 

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“The current Woolloongabba Priority Development Area will be expanded to encompass more of Woolloongabba and the Stanley Street precinct to South Bank.”

“Along with connecting Cross River Rail and the Brisbane Metro, it will deliver a walkable connection to South Bank and Brisbane CBD via Brisbane City Council’s new green bridge.”

 

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“The Gabba's capacity is around 42,000, but this is reduced for international cricket and Australian rules football matches to make way for electronic scoreboards and corporate facilities, and International Olympic Committee (IOC) requirements dictate that it should hold at least 50,000.”

“The main project covered under the Federal Government's contribution is a new AUD $.5 billion (£1.4 billion/$1.7 billion/€1.6 billion) Brisbane Live Arena, set to hold 18,000 spectators and swimming and water polo events at Brisbane 2032.”

 

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8 hours ago, TorchbearerSydney said:

I saw a report once on the Games cost per event...and there have been 3 relatively 'cheap' Games in the modern era,  LA84, Atlanta and Sydney.

Sydney showed what could be done on a limited budget when everything goes right  (and that includes a fortuitous currency plunge).

 

Sydney also was realistic about location of venues - Homebush was cheap and easily developable land. 

Brisbane is building its major indoor arena above railway lines at Rome Street. 

Imagine if Sydney built the Super Dome over Central Station.

Its an insane waste of money. I don't object to federal money going to secure 2032 given how high profile the event is but I object to this money going towards what is effectively an indulgence on Brisbane's part when the country is struggling financially. 

Victoria pays its way with our major events like the Grand Prix and Australian Open - Queenslanders would be the first to cry foul if we got billions to pay for our venue upgrades. 

But of course they're a largely conservative swing state that gets what they want ( the Australian Florida).

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11 minutes ago, TheOtherRob said:

Sure, but I'm not sure you'll get much of a main stadium for a quarter of a billion pounds in 2023.  :lol:

The existing Gabba is barely 20 years old. 

Similarly the Brisbane Live arena is being built in the most expensive location (elevated above an active transport corridor). Literally so many other places around the region it could be.

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They've done well - pointed out on the news earlier that Sydney got barely $150m from Canberra for 2000. The host state (NSW) and private sector split the remaining $2.2bn for infrastructure. 

I'm gobsmacked at how little private investment there is for 2032 - let alone the rest of the country paying for another city's Games. 

Imagine if Texans or New Yorkers tax dollars were used for LA28. 

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“The future design of the Gabba will be finalised and put to tender this year, the Queensland government confirmed on Friday, paving the way for the stadium to become the focal point of Brisbane’s next CBD.”

“If all goes to plan, by 2030 Woolloongabba will have an underground rail station, Metro bus station, new retail hub and more unit towers, servicing a state-of-the-art stadium seating 50,000 people.”

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“The transformation of the suburb will be completed with new pedestrian and cycle links to South Bank, the CBD and beyond.”

“The 2032 Olympic and Paralympic Games will change Brisbane the way Expo 88 did,” Deputy Premier Steven Miles said.”

“It is fitting that we will extend the much-loved South Bank precinct to the Gabba and back to the city via the (Botanic) Gardens.”

 

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Would've rather seen QSAC redeveloped instead of upgrading The Gabba. QSAC could be an 80,000 seat stadium and downgraded to a multi-use arena for concerts, football and athletics once the Games are over. Current capacity is 48,500 and could be reconfigured into a 60,000 seat stadium post-games. 

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