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2 minutes ago, Sir Rols said:

Nope. Never touted, never speculated.

Melbourne’s the sports-mad city whose citizens would all give their left eyeballs to host another games. Sydney’s more “been there, done that”.

 

Damn. Largest collection of Olympic memorabilia outside of Lausanne, Switzerland.

Since the enthusiasm for the summer games was so strong in Sydney, I didn't think Melbourne could be any greater. But I guess it would be.

 

 

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17 minutes ago, Olympics2028 said:

This is why the constantly traveling nature of the Olympic games should be changed so that the build-use-and-move-on model is altered. If the concept of this being always reserved for summer games were implemented, that would be both more green-Earth friendly and sustainable:

A bit of construction work isn’t exactly planet destroying. The amount of resources consumed - just daily - to power the internet for people like us to post things or look at cat videos is far more damaging.

And anyway, infrastructure gets old and dated. Things always need to be replaced. Sydney Olympic Stadium is already in the midst of a major rebuild/redevelopment. And other growing cities also need amenities for sports etc, and the games are often one way for such cities to fast-track hem.

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21 minutes ago, baron-pierreIV said:

There is only ONE Brisbane -- in San Francisco Bay!!

I didn't know what you were talking about. But after looking up whether there's a town by that name in California, lol, hey, you're correct. I'm a native of California but I've never known a "Brisbane" was in the SF Bay area.

Learn something new everyday.

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1 minute ago, Sir Rols said:

And other growing cities also need amenities for sports etc, and the games are often one way for such cities to fast-track hem.

 

For technical/symbolic/operational reasons, however, I still like the concept of former host cities being in a constant loop of upcoming games. But that's for certain former host cities, not all of them.

The great enthusiasm for the games in Sydney or London, for example, was very different from the way the event was received in Rio.

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23 minutes ago, Olympics2028 said:

But I wonder if people in Sydney pushed for another games but got muscled aside by Brisbane?

Actually, it was Melbourne that got muscled aside, according to another Aussie member that use to post in the past. But also the IOC's own, current strict July/Aug. hosting time-frame didn't help Melbourne's cause either, since it would be way too cold there for a 'Summer' Olympics in those months.

26 minutes ago, Olympics2028 said:

I know in the US, for several years Boston/Chicago/SF/NYC, etc, were treated as default options to holding another games in LA.

What do you mean by "default" options? I think you have that backwards.

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2 minutes ago, FYI said:

Actually, it was Melbourne that got muscled aside, according to another Aussie member that use to post in the past.

 

Since I don't know the culture and politics in Australia, I have only a vague notion of how things work there.

My sense was that Sydney is the go-to city for Aussie in general. So its sports scene and, in particular, highly embraced Olympics in 2000 would make it outrank both Melbourne and Brisbane.

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This looks like one of the nicest, friendliest Olympic villages set up for a summer games. It's not along the lines of the "Commie" block style  of housing in Tokyo or Rio.

I think Paris 2024 is going more for this format.

I'm partial to it also because, hey, it looks like a newer neighborhood in southern California. lol

 

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1 minute ago, Sir Rols said:

Maybe to you guys. To us it’s more Miami/Orlando - beaches, theme parks, retirement.

Funny you say that - on a recent episode of House Hunters International, there was a guy moving from Miami to Brisbane. He was the dopey surfer type, & he was saying how much Brisbane reminded him of Miami. 

But what I meant is more from an international *Olympic* perspective, since Atlanta is an Olympic city. And besides, it's not like Miami, & especially Orlando (which I'm sure even from an international perspective, many would be hard-pressed to find on a map) would be intriguing Olympic options from an international POV.

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1 minute ago, FYI said:

And besides, it's not like Miami, & especially Orlando (which I'm sure even from an international perspective, many would be hard-pressed to find on a map) would be intriguing Olympic options from an international POV.

Profile and reputation-wise, I think Miami would be a great host. I could get behind it!

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9 minutes ago, Olympics2028 said:

My sense was that Sydney is the go-to city for Aussie in general. So its sports scene and, in particular, highly embraced Olympics in 2000 would make it outrank both Melbourne and Brisbane.

From my understanding, Melbourne is one of the very few cities in the world that could host the Olympics on a dime, much like L.A. can, with it's ready-to-go venues. Melbourne is Australia's sports capital, whereas Sydney is more the Aussie cultural epicenter, much like NYC, London & Paris are to their respective countries. At least from the international perspective.

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4 minutes ago, Sir Rols said:

Profile and reputation-wise, I think Miami would be a great host. I could get behind it!

I sometimes think of Miami like our Rio de Janiero, but without the rolling hills & Christ the Redeemer. Very large Brazilian population down there, too. But I think the weather there during the July/Aug. time-frame is also it's negative. Like Houston, & the rest of the U.S. gulf coast during that time, is very much like India's monsoon season. Very hot, humid & lots & lots of rain.

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16 minutes ago, Olympics2028 said:

My sense was that Sydney is the go-to city for Aussie in general. So its sports scene and, in particular, highly embraced Olympics in 2000 would make it outrank both Melbourne and Brisbane.

No, even Sydneysiders (perhaps grudgingly) acknowledge Melbourne is the sports capital.

12 minutes ago, Olympics2028 said:

This looks like one of the nicest, friendliest Olympic villages set up for a summer games. It's not along the lines of the "Commie" block style  of housing in Tokyo or Rio.

I think Paris 2024 is going more for this format.

I'm partial to it also because, hey, it looks like a newer neighborhood in southern California. lol

 

My sister lived in one of those after thegames. Was a nice house.

4 minutes ago, FYI said:

whereas Sydney is more the Aussie cultural epicenter, much like NYC, London & Paris are to their respective countries. At least from the international perspective.

 Don’t let the Melburnians see that - to them we Sydneysiders are shallow philistines!

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30 minutes ago, FYI said:

From my understanding, Melbourne is one of the very few cities in the world that could host the Olympics on a dime, much like L.A. can, with it's ready-to-go venues. Melbourne is Australia's sports capital, whereas Sydney is more the Aussie cultural epicenter, much like NYC, London & Paris are to their respective countries. At least from the international perspective.

Even Brisbane looks like it will accommodate a summer games quite easily.

In various ways, I think it or Sydney fit the needs of an Olympic games better than Tokyo, Paris or London do.

Cities are like people. Just as certain people have better or different skillsets than others do, certain cities fit a major sports event better than other places do.

So-called world capitals in Europe or North America are better for things like the arts, museums, fine dining, old-world architecture. Other cities are better for track and field, baseball, volleyball, swimming, field hockey, football (or futbol), etc.

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31 minutes ago, Sir Rols said:

Don’t let the Melburnians see that - to them we Sydneysiders are shallow philistines!

lol. That doesn't fit the stereotype.

I'd think the more sports-oriented cities of a country are judged as more brawn than brains. By contrast, the places where the artiste-intellectual crowd hangs out (and aren't as much into sports) is stereotyped as more brains than brawn.

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On 3/17/2022 at 10:42 AM, baron-pierreIV said:

Maybe that's another impediment as to why the Olympics have bypassed Games hopeful Durban

don't forget durban was stripped of the commonweath games after a trail of missed deadlines and financial problems, whereas you have Brisbane / gold coast who staged a sucessful comm games and a country who hosted, in the words of than IOC president Samaranch the best games ever,.  i don't see an african olympics in the next 30 years

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On 3/17/2022 at 3:44 PM, FYI said:

From my understanding, Melbourne is one of the very few cities in the world that could host the Olympics on a dime, much like L.A. can, with it's ready-to-go venues

the commonwealth games federation approached Melbourne and asked them to host 2026 (as there is currently no host) as they know Melbourne can do it with next to no notice and minimal spending. 

 

having lived in melbourne until i was 19 and than moving to brisbane, if i could have the sports of melbourne (AFL, F1, Australian open, Boxing Day Test) and the weather of brisbane i'd be happy as larry

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27 minutes ago, Chris_Mex said:

So basically the subway station will be half the prince of what the actual stadium will cost, IDK if that speaks of a cheap stadium, or a VERY expensive station

These figures are not the actual cost of these projects.
That amount is a contribution from the  City Deal agreement including the cross river tunnelling works and pedestrian piazza joining the station to the stadium.  
 

The entire Cross River Rail project, of which the Gabba Stadium Train Station is one part, includes  several other stations along that line under the Brisbane River and on both sides of it.

The cost of the stadium rebuild itself is separate around $1b or so and has been previously announced.

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55 minutes ago, Chris_Mex said:

So basically the subway station will be half the prince of what the actual stadium will cost, IDK if that speaks of a cheap stadium, or a VERY expensive station

The station and stadium part of different projects with the station being part of the cross river rail project which has been in progress since before the stadium upgrade was proposed for the Olympic bid. 

 "Gabba" refers to the suburb not the stadium.

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2 hours ago, Chris_Mex said:

So basically the subway station will be half the prince of what the actual stadium will cost, IDK if that speaks of a cheap stadium, or a VERY expensive station

 

58 minutes ago, ulu said:

The station and stadium part of different projects with the station being part of the cross river rail project which has been in progress since before the stadium upgrade was proposed for the Olympic bid. 

 "Gabba" refers to the suburb not the stadium.

Gabba Station:  major new transport interchange

I stand corrected.  
This $450million is going directly into the Gabba Metro Starion which is

(Deputy Premier Miles) quote:

“going to be much more than a new station, it's a major new transport interchange linking our flagship cross-river rail, heavy rail upgrades with the Brisbane City Council's flagship Metro project."

"People will be able to change from Metro to trains here, access our new train station and of course get to and from the fantastic Olympics venue, the Gabba that will be rebuilt."

“The Gabba Station is the centrepiece of the deal.”

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Any word on the existence of the Brisbane Organizing Committee? I remember hearing about the legislation last year, but I never found out what came of it

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