New CGF roadmap encourages greater flexibility as urgent search for Commonwealth Games host continues

[GBModerator]

The Commonwealth Games Federation (CGF) introduced a new strategic roadmap during the organization’s General Assembly held online Monday due to the ongoing COVID-19 pandemic that forced the cancellation of last year’s meeting. The CGF is more than two years behind its original schedule to lock in a host for the 2026 edition of the Games, […]

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[stryker]

So a 15 sport program with only athletics and swimming compulsory. Interesting as it would leave host cities lots of flexibility in terms of what sports they want to offer. I'm especially intrigued by the multi-site athletes village option that Birmingham is already putting in play. Perhaps this is something the IOC could look into as well?

Bigger question. How does the CWF make the event relevant again? This was touched in in another thread. The affordability is a good start, but how do encourage candidates beyond the UK and Australia to say this a good thing let's go for it

[TorchbearerSydney]

Q: multi-site athletes village option that Birmingham is already putting in play. Perhaps this is something the IOC could look into as well? 

 

Doesn't Brisbane 2032 have three villages- one in Brisbane, one on the Gold Coast and one on the Sunshine Coast?

[Victorian]

On 10/13/2021 at 8:25 AM, TorchbearerSydney said:

Q: multi-site athletes village option that Birmingham is already putting in play. Perhaps this is something the IOC could look into as well? 

 

Doesn't Brisbane 2032 have three villages- one in Brisbane, one on the Gold Coast and one on the Sunshine Coast?

That is correct. The have the main village in Brisbane with two satellite villages on the GC and SC.

As I said before in another thread, they new formula will allow smaller nations to host together.

New Zealand and the Pacific  (nations such as Fiji, PNG, and smaller nations too)

Malaysia and Singapore (even though they are more than capable of being able to host alone, this might be more appealing for their governments to bid if they can share costs)

Caribbean (Jamaica, Trinidad, Bahamas, Antigua and Barbuda etc)

Canada and the Caribbean or multiple Canadian cities might make us finally get a Canada CWG for the first time since 1994!

Malta, Cyprus, Guernsey bid 

Northern Ireland (and Dublin to help)

Wales and Northern Ireland bid

Sri Lankan and Indian bid (these bids would surely have cricket included)

 

 

[stryker]

On 10/13/2021 at 5:38 PM, Victorian said:

That is correct. The have the main village in Brisbane with two satellite villages on the GC and SC.

Will these athletes villages be new housing or will they use (at least for the satellite villages) existing university housing? 

[AustralianFan]

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On 10/13/2021 at 8:25 AM, TorchbearerSydney said:

Q: multi-site athletes village option that Birmingham is already putting in play. Perhaps this is something the IOC could look into as well?

Doesn't Brisbane 2032 have three villages- one in Brisbane, one on the Gold Coast and one on the Sunshine Coast?

 

On 10/14/2021 at 8:38 AM, Victorian said:

That is correct. The have the main village in Brisbane with two satellite villages on the GC and SC.

Actually, there’s 4 athletes villages in total with the other one in Kooralbyn Satellite Village at Kooralbyn Resort approx. 80kms (1h 30m) or so by road east of Gold Coast which will house competitors and officials Lake Wyralong competitors in rowing and canoe (sprint) events.  

 Kooralbyn Resort is 40 minutes by road from the venue at Queensland State Rowing Centre, Lake Wyralong.

“The resort includes a range of amenities including restaurants, conference rooms, fitness and recreation facilities, a swimming pool and an 18 hole golf course, all of which will be available to the athletes. The permanent accommodation will be supplemented by additional temporary accommodation in a fully secured environment. Regular shuttles will connect to the venues and the Brisbane Olympic and Paralympic Village.”

(from p.38, of IOC’s 2032 Questionnaire)

[AustralianFan]

16 hours ago, stryker said:

Will these athletes villages be new housing or will they use (at least for the satellite villages) existing university housing? 

Three of the Villages, Brisbane, Gold Coast and Sunshine Coast, will be new housing apartment buildings for community use/sales after the Games.  As mentioned, the fourth athletes village will be an existing resort hotel at Kooralbyn (rowing/canoe sprint) with some temporary accommodation units installed for the Games.

[Australian Kiwi]

Just absurd the situation the CGF is in. They have coasted by for decades now, and they should've seen that the Kuala Lumpur's, Melbourne's and Glasgow's were always finite. They should have been proactively engaging earlier to avoid this. In some ways I don't blame multiple Aussie cities for declining suggestions to step in on 2026. We've done out bit with 2006 and 2018. Time for others to step up (Birmingham 2026?) or maybe curtain call for the CWG......

 

[StefanMUC]

Birmingham is already hosting next year, so why 2026 again?
 

I wonder what will happen to the Commonwealth itself once its unifying icon will no longer be around. To me as outsider, it‘s like the undead version of the long gone Empire without much actual meaning except for some pomp & circumstances like the CWG.

[Australian Kiwi]

On 10/23/2021 at 4:37 AM, StefanMUC said:

Birmingham is already hosting next year, so why 2026 again?
 

I wonder what will happen to the Commonwealth itself once its unifying icon will no longer be around. To me as outsider, it‘s like the undead version of the long gone Empire without much actual meaning except for some pomp & circumstances like the CWG.

Because Birmingham is holding 2022. Frankly a back to back hosting in Birmingham is what the CGF should be focused on right now, along with securing Hamilton for 2030.  

Notions of the Empire are long gone, however the CHOGM/Commonwealth itself still maintains some geopolitical significance.  

 

[Tejas57]

On 10/26/2021 at 9:02 PM, Australian Kiwi said:

Because Birmingham is holding 2022. Frankly a back to back hosting in Birmingham is what the CGF should be focused on right now, along with securing Hamilton for 2030.  

i believe with brisbane winning the 2032 olympics it's killed any chance of an australian comm games prior this, and possibly to 2038 at a minimum - the money is not there to support a comm games and an olympics

[TorchbearerSydney]

To a country as rich as Australia, with all the facilities built (in a number of cities), the Comm Games cost peanuts. Not quite sure what the problem is TBH.. I think politicians are being careful about offering circuses in the time of COVID...

[ulu]

1 hour ago, TorchbearerSydney said:

To a country as rich as Australia, with all the facilities built (in a number of cities), the Comm Games cost peanuts. Not quite sure what the problem is TBH.. I think politicians are being careful about offering circuses in the time of COVID...

Especially now there are only two compulsory sports.

[Australian Kiwi]

6 hours ago, Tejas57 said:

i believe with brisbane winning the 2032 olympics it's killed any chance of an australian comm games prior this, and possibly to 2038 at a minimum - the money is not there to support a comm games and an olympics

Yes it is. 

Its a lack of interest, not a lack of capability or financial capacity. Perhaps Queensland might not wish to take it on again before 2032, but Melbourne or Sydney could step up to 2026 without flinching. I would also argue Perth or Adelaide could prepare a solid Games within four years. However it has become clear that NSW, Victoria, WA and SA have no interest in stepping in (again) to save 2026.

[Australian Kiwi]

The CGF have been skating on thin ice for decades. Its been luck and a minimal level of interest from Australian states and UK countries that has allowed the event to continue into the 21st century. More often than not its been sole bidders or a max of two. Last time there were three candidates at the vote was for 1990. Surprised this 2026 situation hasn't occurred already. 

1966 - Kingston, Jamaica; other bidders are Edinburgh, Scotland; and Salisbury (Harare), Rhodesia (Zimbabwe)

1970 - Edinburgh, Scotland; one other bid from Christchurch, NZ

1974 - Christchurch, NZ; one other bid from Melbourne, Australia

1978 - Edmonton, Canada; one other bid from Leeds, England

1982 - Brisbane, Australia; sole candidate after Birmingham, England withdrew

1986 - Edinburgh, Scotland; sole candidate - The CGF had hoped 1986 would be held in Asia, Africa or the Caribbean however bids (including from Hong Kong and Port of Spain) failed to materialise leaving them without a candidate resulting in a direct appeal to the 1970 host to put together a proposal.

1990 - Auckland, New Zealand; two other bids from Perth, Australia and Delhi, India

1994 - Victoria, Canada; one other bid from Delhi, India

1998 - Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia; one other bid from Adelaide, Australia. Cardiff (Wales) and Delhi (India) withdrew before vote.

2002 - Manchester, England; sole candidate

2006 - Melbourne, Australia; sole candidate (Wellington, NZ withdrew before vote)

2010 - Delhi, India; one other bid from Hamilton, Canada

2014 - Glasgow, Scotland; one other bid from Abuja, Nigeria

2018 - Gold Coast, Australia; one other bid from Hambantota, Sri Lanka

2022 - Birmingham, England; replacement host after Durban, South Africa stepped down two years after being named host city as sole candidate after Edmonton, Canada withdrew

2026 - ??? 

 

 

[Tejas57]

On 12/7/2021 at 7:48 PM, Australian Kiwi said:

Yes it is. 

Its a lack of interest, not a lack of capability or financial capacity.

i'm thinking more of sponsorship. they will struggle to find corporate sponsors when the biggest marketing opportunity in the world will be right on our doorstep

[Australian Kiwi]

1 hour ago, Tejas57 said:

i'm thinking more of sponsorship. they will struggle to find corporate sponsors when the biggest marketing opportunity in the world will be right on our doorstep

Possibly - but if its a few years out I think Australian sponsors could be found. Its never really been an issue before (eg. Melbourne 2006 wasn't affected by Sydney 2000 at all). 

[Australian Kiwi]

What is becoming certain is that the CWG will not be back in Australia until 2034 minimum. Would be fun to see a centenary Games in Sydney in 2038. 

[stryker]

Could London save the CWGs in 2026. Not sure how reliable the source is though.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.standard.co.uk/sport/london-commonwealth-games-birmingham-2022-b967704.html%3Famp&ved=2ahUKEwiy5LWLk9n0AhWWqZUCHfxVCwQQyM8BKAB6BAgWEAI&usg=AOvVaw33tskG0Xwg2MX_5YkF6U8V

[Tejas57]

Wasn’t sure where to post this, but The Daily Telegraph are reporting that Australian governments are secretly hatching plans for more sporting events in Australia, one of the more major ones being the Federal government speaking to states interested in preparing a bid to host the 2026 Commonwealth Games in Australia.

Federal Sports Minister Richard Colbeck warns that if the Commonwealth Games don’t return to Australia in 2026, then we’ll have to wait until 2038.

https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/australias-secret-plans-to-secure-sporting-mega-events-revealed/news-story/0ac94885de54f9ce36e002309ab155ba 

[ulu]

1 hour ago, Tejas57 said:

Wasn’t sure where to post this, but The Daily Telegraph are reporting that Australian governments are secretly hatching plans for more sporting events in Australia, one of the more major ones being the Federal government speaking to states interested in preparing a bid to host the 2026 Commonwealth Games in Australia.

Federal Sports Minister Richard Colbeck warns that if the Commonwealth Games don’t return to Australia in 2026, then we’ll have to wait until 2038.

https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/australias-secret-plans-to-secure-sporting-mega-events-revealed/news-story/0ac94885de54f9ce36e002309ab155ba 

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