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Sapporo 2030: Give them an offer they can't refuse with no bids involved


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39 minutes ago, Chris_Mex said:

Whatever they don't have, they can build it. I know we've been in a not build-it mood right now, but let's not forget that building the venues you don't have and use them later as training facilities is a plausible option for any olympic host.

Sliding tracks, as much popular as sliding sports are e.g. here in Germany, are always an economical and environmental burden, no matter how much you want to sugarcoat things.

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2 minutes ago, StefanMUC said:

Sliding tracks, as much popular as sliding sports are e.g. here in Germany, are always an economical and environmental burden, no matter how much you want to sugarcoat things.

If only there was possible to create temporary sliding centers, winter olympics would be a cheaper options and the sport would be more practiced around the world

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On 1/5/2022 at 2:20 PM, FYI said:

A former city council member says that the city would march on (no pun intended) if the latest survey in March didn't show majority support. But would the IOC still bite, though. And I don't think that they would. Their focus would immediately turn to a SLC 2030 deal then, IMO. So, here's hoping that the Sapporo survey passes, & then SLC can get 2034, to the IOC's & USOC's delight, but probably to SLC's vexing, though.  

I highly doubt Sapporo would move forward with a bid if the March survey showed a majority of residents did not want the city to pursue the bid. That would be political suicide for Sapporo's ruling politicians. We've seen countless examples (Obamacare comes to mind) where politicians go forward with something the public doesn't want then they get punished at the polls for it. Remember some thought Calgary's bid which had a non-binding referendum could still go forward even if the referendum turned out negative. The city quickly ended the bid. I fully expect Sapporo to do the same.

 

22 hours ago, FYI said:

 I also think we could see France (& maybe another Western European country), if Paris 2024 & Milan 2026 go mostly smooth. I don’t think it’d be the dire predicament that some here like to predict if SLC does wind up with the 2030 Winter Olympics. 

Much of Western Europe is still out right hostile with the IOC but I could see France in perhaps the best position to go forward with a WOGs bid if Paris 2024 goes well and comes in within budget (and if covid is no longer an issue by then). Milan is a bit iffier. Milan has the potential to have a budget spiral out of control with the sliding track, new ice hockey arena, and speed skating oval needing to be built with no clear legacies involved. If Turin was still part of this I'd say no doubt but Milan has to prove they can control the budget for 2026 and I'm not sure they can. If Milan ends up going over budget then I suspect it will be even tougher sledding for the IOC to attract WOGs bids from Western Europe.

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Just now, BigVic said:

Nagano, 1998, Beijing 2008, PyeongChang 2018, Beijing 2022, Sapporo 2030? That would be 5 Olympics in the last 32 years to be held in East Asia 

Also the recently-completed Tokyo 2020 Summer Games (aka Tokyo 2021) was held in East Asia. So 6 

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8 hours ago, BigVic said:

Nagano, 1998, Beijing 2008, PyeongChang 2018, Beijing 2022, Sapporo 2030? That would be 5 Olympics in the last 32 years to be held in East Asia 

Maybe if other cities would bid, they'd win.  Beijing shouldn't be the 2022 host, it should have been a European city.  Then suddenly Sapporo 2030 doesn't look quite as egregious.

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On 1/10/2022 at 6:49 AM, BigVic said:

Nagano, 1998, Beijing 2008, PyeongChang 2018, Beijing 2022, Sapporo 2030? That would be 5 Olympics in the last 32 years to be held in East Asia 

Well, we should wait and see on that if Sapporo is awarded the 2030 Olympic and Paralympic Winter Games.

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Making the correlation (& complaining) about three consecutive East Asian Olympics is one thing, but stretching it way beyond from 1998 to potentially 2030, is so disingenuous, to the say the least. Since we can make the same type of correlation with just about any aspect.

For example, from 1996 to potentially 2034, that'd be eight Olympic Games in English-speaking countries in a span of 38 years. Hardly culturally diverse, especially to non-English speakers. At least the East Asian examples are all linguistically & culturally different.

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