StefanMUC Posted January 6, 2022 Report Share Posted January 6, 2022 39 minutes ago, Chris_Mex said: Whatever they don't have, they can build it. I know we've been in a not build-it mood right now, but let's not forget that building the venues you don't have and use them later as training facilities is a plausible option for any olympic host. Sliding tracks, as much popular as sliding sports are e.g. here in Germany, are always an economical and environmental burden, no matter how much you want to sugarcoat things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_Mex Posted January 6, 2022 Report Share Posted January 6, 2022 2 minutes ago, StefanMUC said: Sliding tracks, as much popular as sliding sports are e.g. here in Germany, are always an economical and environmental burden, no matter how much you want to sugarcoat things. If only there was possible to create temporary sliding centers, winter olympics would be a cheaper options and the sport would be more practiced around the world Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stryker Posted January 7, 2022 Report Share Posted January 7, 2022 On 1/5/2022 at 2:20 PM, FYI said: A former city council member says that the city would march on (no pun intended) if the latest survey in March didn't show majority support. But would the IOC still bite, though. And I don't think that they would. Their focus would immediately turn to a SLC 2030 deal then, IMO. So, here's hoping that the Sapporo survey passes, & then SLC can get 2034, to the IOC's & USOC's delight, but probably to SLC's vexing, though. I highly doubt Sapporo would move forward with a bid if the March survey showed a majority of residents did not want the city to pursue the bid. That would be political suicide for Sapporo's ruling politicians. We've seen countless examples (Obamacare comes to mind) where politicians go forward with something the public doesn't want then they get punished at the polls for it. Remember some thought Calgary's bid which had a non-binding referendum could still go forward even if the referendum turned out negative. The city quickly ended the bid. I fully expect Sapporo to do the same. 22 hours ago, FYI said: I also think we could see France (& maybe another Western European country), if Paris 2024 & Milan 2026 go mostly smooth. I don’t think it’d be the dire predicament that some here like to predict if SLC does wind up with the 2030 Winter Olympics. Much of Western Europe is still out right hostile with the IOC but I could see France in perhaps the best position to go forward with a WOGs bid if Paris 2024 goes well and comes in within budget (and if covid is no longer an issue by then). Milan is a bit iffier. Milan has the potential to have a budget spiral out of control with the sliding track, new ice hockey arena, and speed skating oval needing to be built with no clear legacies involved. If Turin was still part of this I'd say no doubt but Milan has to prove they can control the budget for 2026 and I'm not sure they can. If Milan ends up going over budget then I suspect it will be even tougher sledding for the IOC to attract WOGs bids from Western Europe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iceman530 Posted January 7, 2022 Author Report Share Posted January 7, 2022 I am so hard on the Sapporo 2030 / SLC 2034 double train right now. Come on Sapporo, give us a good surprise. We could use one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigVic Posted January 10, 2022 Report Share Posted January 10, 2022 Nagano, 1998, Beijing 2008, PyeongChang 2018, Beijing 2022, Sapporo 2030? That would be 5 Olympics in the last 32 years to be held in East Asia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigVic Posted January 10, 2022 Report Share Posted January 10, 2022 Just now, BigVic said: Nagano, 1998, Beijing 2008, PyeongChang 2018, Beijing 2022, Sapporo 2030? That would be 5 Olympics in the last 32 years to be held in East Asia Also the recently-completed Tokyo 2020 Summer Games (aka Tokyo 2021) was held in East Asia. So 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TorchbearerSydney Posted January 10, 2022 Report Share Posted January 10, 2022 60 percentage of the worlds population is Asian..... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quaker2001 Posted January 10, 2022 Report Share Posted January 10, 2022 8 hours ago, BigVic said: Nagano, 1998, Beijing 2008, PyeongChang 2018, Beijing 2022, Sapporo 2030? That would be 5 Olympics in the last 32 years to be held in East Asia Maybe if other cities would bid, they'd win. Beijing shouldn't be the 2022 host, it should have been a European city. Then suddenly Sapporo 2030 doesn't look quite as egregious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palette86 Posted January 11, 2022 Report Share Posted January 11, 2022 13 hours ago, TorchbearerSydney said: 60 percentage of the worlds population is Asian..... Most of them are Chinese and Indian. Good at calculating. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SportLightning Posted January 12, 2022 Report Share Posted January 12, 2022 On 1/10/2022 at 6:49 AM, BigVic said: Nagano, 1998, Beijing 2008, PyeongChang 2018, Beijing 2022, Sapporo 2030? That would be 5 Olympics in the last 32 years to be held in East Asia Well, we should wait and see on that if Sapporo is awarded the 2030 Olympic and Paralympic Winter Games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FYI Posted January 12, 2022 Report Share Posted January 12, 2022 Making the correlation (& complaining) about three consecutive East Asian Olympics is one thing, but stretching it way beyond from 1998 to potentially 2030, is so disingenuous, to the say the least. Since we can make the same type of correlation with just about any aspect. For example, from 1996 to potentially 2034, that'd be eight Olympic Games in English-speaking countries in a span of 38 years. Hardly culturally diverse, especially to non-English speakers. At least the East Asian examples are all linguistically & culturally different. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted January 22, 2022 Report Share Posted January 22, 2022 I think it should go to Spain. That is my opinion, anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SportLightning Posted January 22, 2022 Report Share Posted January 22, 2022 15 hours ago, Victorian said: I think it should go to Spain. That is my opinion, anyway. It might not happen, but we'll see if either Sapporo or Barcelona could be awarded. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Australian Kiwi Posted February 1, 2022 Report Share Posted February 1, 2022 On 1/7/2022 at 1:34 PM, iceman530 said: I am so hard on the Sapporo 2030 / SLC 2034 double train right now. Come on Sapporo, give us a good surprise. We could use one. Interesting to see some patterns emerging.... Not sure if others have noticed but this will create a complete repeat of 1996-2002: Atlanta 1996 / Los Angeles 2028 (USA) Nagano 1998 / Sapporo 2030 (Japan) Sydney 2000 / Brisbane 2032 (Australia) Salt Lake City 2002 / Salt Lake City 2034 (USA) While not the same countries, the same continents are mimicked in the SOG years before also: Seoul 1988 / Tokyo 2020 (Asia) Barcelona 1992 / Paris 2024 (Western Europe) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Australian Kiwi Posted February 1, 2022 Report Share Posted February 1, 2022 On 1/22/2022 at 4:07 PM, Victorian said: I think it should go to Spain. That is my opinion, anyway. I'd rather them wait and throw Madrid up for 2036. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotguy II Posted February 1, 2022 Report Share Posted February 1, 2022 4 hours ago, Australian Kiwi said: I'd rather them wait and throw Madrid up for 2036. eh 2036 is Aucklands games Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ulu Posted February 1, 2022 Report Share Posted February 1, 2022 We've got so many Kiwis in SE Queensland that 2032 can be a pseudo home games for New Zealand too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AustralianFan Posted February 11, 2022 Report Share Posted February 11, 2022 Sapporo just needs to win over majority citizens’ support in their upcoming public survey, and 2030 is their’s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iceman530 Posted February 11, 2022 Author Report Share Posted February 11, 2022 Isnt "go time" on the referendum pretty soon? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AustralianFan Posted February 11, 2022 Report Share Posted February 11, 2022 I think it was to be in March? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AustralianFan Posted February 11, 2022 Report Share Posted February 11, 2022 (after Beijing 2022) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brekkie Boy Posted February 23, 2022 Report Share Posted February 23, 2022 Not looking hugely promising then and guessing it's unlikely Nagano would step up again. Would even Tokyo be a possibility for repurposed venues for the ice events if there is a mountain venue within range under the "Agenda 2020" rules, or is Tokyo just too curse now by the curse of the covid games? That said as much as I'd like to see Japan rewarded for hosting the games in the most difficult circumstances I'm not that keen on a third Winter games in four being in Asia. I'd rather see Tokyo have the option of hosting the summer games again in 2036 TBH. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanMUC Posted February 23, 2022 Report Share Posted February 23, 2022 Not completely sure about Japanese geography, but I think the nearest mountain venue from Tokyo might indeed be…Nagano & surroundings? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_Mex Posted February 23, 2022 Report Share Posted February 23, 2022 3 hours ago, StefanMUC said: Not completely sure about Japanese geography, but I think the nearest mountain venue from Tokyo might indeed be…Nagano & surroundings? I mean, if sapporo 2030 fail, they could try Tokyo-Nagano 2034, or even if expo 2025 and asian games 2026 become a success, they can try again for summer maybe in another city like nagoya-aichi or osaka-kansai but thats all an if Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SportLightning Posted February 23, 2022 Report Share Posted February 23, 2022 3 hours ago, Chris_Mex said: I mean, if sapporo 2030 fail, they could try Tokyo-Nagano 2034, or even if expo 2025 and asian games 2026 become a success, they can try again for summer maybe in another city like nagoya-aichi or osaka-kansai but thats all an if My prediction for the 2030 Winter Olympics joint bid for Japan idea should be: Sapporo-Nagano 2030. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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