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On 11/11/2021 at 5:38 PM, stryker said:

Very preliminary but this article sounds like they could suggest in a hypothetical Madrid bid that aquatics could be in Barcelina, rowing/canoeing in Seville, or cycling in either Valencia or Palma de Mallorca. There's an emphasis on high-speed rail connections as well. If they are willing to try that, then I don't think having athletics in either Seville or Barcelona is as much of hindrance as one might think.

well even Brisbane 2028 has many events throught various Queensland regions which has an area of 1,851,736 km2 which is 3+ times the land of Spain (550.000km2)

   
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24 minutes ago, George_D said:

well even Brisbane 2028 has many events throught various Queensland regions which has an area of 1,851,736 km2 which is 3+ times the land of Spain (550.000km2)

   

If I remember right so far only Football matches are confirmed to be hosted outside South East Queensland which is 22,420 km2.

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On 11/24/2021 at 3:55 PM, George_D said:

well even Brisbane 2028 has many events throught various Queensland regions which has an area of 1,851,736 km2 which is 3+ times the land of Spain (550.000km2)

   

True but most of the events such as those in Sunshine Coast and Gold Coast are much shorter in distance than say from Madrid to Barcelona or Madrid to Seville (I'm excluding football venues). The difference is Spain has the high speed rail that can make those longer distances negligible.

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https://www.rtve.es/deportes/20220322/madrid2036-coe-cancela-candidatura-olimpica/2320281.shtml

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Olimpismo | JJOO 2036 

El COE descarta una candidatura de Madrid para los Juegos Olímpicos de 2036

  • "La recomendación (del COI) que nos dijeron para los del 2036 es que Madrid no se presente", afirma Alejandro Blanco
  • "Cuando hablamos con el COI de las posibilidades que había, nos dijeron que las posibilidades son de invierno", añade

22.03.2022 | actualización 12:41 horas

 

PorAGENCIAS
 
El presiente del Comité Olímpico Español (COE), Alejandro Blanco, interviene durante el acto institucional. EFE

2 min.

El presidente del Comité Olímpico Español (COE), Alejandro Blanco, ha descartado, a instancias de las recomendaciones del Comité Olímpico Internacional (COI), la posibilidad de que Madrid presente una candidatura para albergar los Juegos Olímpicos de 2036.

En una entrevista con la emisora de radio RAC1, Blanco ha animado a la capital española a "reiniciar el camino" para ser sede de unos Juegos Olímpicos de verano, si bien subrayó que "en este momento" su candidatura para la cita de 2036 "no está encima de la mesa para nada".

Madrid no va a optar a los Juegos de 2036

"He tenido varias reuniones con el alcalde de Madrid hablando de este tema y Madrid, sin ninguna duda, es una ciudad que debe intentar albergar los Juegos Olímpicos, pero no va a optar a los del 2036", ha dicho Blanco.

"Nosotros (el COE) cuando hablamos con el COI de las posibilidades que había, nos dijeron que las posibilidades son de invierno. Están dados los juegos de París (2024), los de Los Ángeles (2028) y los de Brisbane (2032) y la recomendación que nos dijeron para los del 2036 es que Madrid no se presente", agregó.

Según Blanco, "todo el mundo tiene que tener tranquilidad" y "el sueño de Madrid no debe desaparecer" para albergar en un futuro la cita olímpica.

"El compromiso que tenemos, y además estoy muy agradecido al alcalde de Madrid, es que se retomen las actividades de alto nivel en Madrid para intentar en un futuro, no en el 2036, optar a los Juegos", ha afirmado el presidente del COE.

Madrid optó tres veces de forma consecutiva a acoger los Juegos Olímpicos de 2012, 2016 y 2020, que fueron concedidos respectivamente a Londres, Río de Janeiro y Tokio.

Bid´s dead, they got told by the IOC to try a Barcelona Winter Games instead...which might as well become a Barcelona summer olympics when they fail that?

 

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Remember that JAS Junior is pulling many strings again for his Catalan home...so wouldn't surprise me if he did a bit of nice "convincing" in the background there (though Barcelona winter bid really seems a bit futile if Sapporo/SLC can really be locked in - then the next winter opportunity is even further down the road then the next summer one).

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2 hours ago, Guilga said:

might as well become a Barcelona summer olympics when they fail that?

A second Barcelona Summer Olympics will happen over Madrid's dead body. As Stefan already pointed out, looks like JAS JR. is just trying his very best to follow in his father's conniving ways.

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1 hour ago, StefanMUC said:

Remember that JAS Junior is pulling many strings again for his Catalan home...so wouldn't surprise me if he did a bit of nice "convincing" in the background there (though Barcelona winter bid really seems a bit futile if Sapporo/SLC can really be locked in - then the next winter opportunity is even further down the road then the next summer one).

Perhaps his logic is that Sapporo can still falter with it's survey, since SLC is pretty much a lock-in at this point. But a Barcelona-Pyrenees bid would seem to have the same public support problem as Sapporo. But maybe pushing it to 2034 can make JAS JR. work more of his "magic" behind closed doors.

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Is a second Barcelona summer Olympics that crazy? Barcelona has both a possible future IOC president in its corner, and an existing athletics stadium. Not to mention everything else from 92 like aquatic centre, velodrome etc. If you look at it from a non Spanish, "objective" view, there's no doubt which Spanish city is best placed for an Olympic tilt right now... and it's not Madrid. 

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It's not that a second Barcelona Summer Olympics is "that crazy". But much moreso, considering a Spanish bid can't really be viewed from a non-Spanish perspective, since the Spanish Olympic Committee (which is located in Madrid nonetheless) is the one that has the final say in it anyway, would more than likely balk at the idea of another Barcelona Summer Olympics, when their national capital hasn't even hosted their first.

Madrid's 2012, 2016 & 2020's had most of the venues in place already. That was their big selling point, especially for the 2020 bid, during their financial crisis. So the main venue, the Olympic stadium, is what they currently lack now. Of course, it's not out of the realm of possibility, but I just can't see Madrid rolling over & saying, "here ya go, Barcelona. Have another go at it. We're okay with that", regardless of how many strings JAS JR. can get to pull within the IOC. 

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5 hours ago, Guilga said:

https://www.rtve.es/deportes/20220322/madrid2036-coe-cancela-candidatura-olimpica/2320281.shtml

Bid´s dead, they got told by the IOC to try a Barcelona Winter Games instead...which might as well become a Barcelona summer olympics when they fail that?

 

Yep, denied. Barcelona would be more interesting hosting the 2030 Olympic Winter Games and would be the second city to host both summer and winter games after the recent edition in Beijing.

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On 3/22/2022 at 1:30 PM, StefanMUC said:

Remember that JAS Junior is pulling many strings again for his Catalan home...so wouldn't surprise me if he did a bit of nice "convincing" in the background there (though Barcelona winter bid really seems a bit futile if Sapporo/SLC can really be locked in - then the next winter opportunity is even further down the road then the next summer one).

I think JAS Junior grew up in Madrid and has less affiliation to Barcelona than his father.  I think.  

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