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On 10/29/2022 at 7:51 AM, GBModerator said:

Four First Nation leaders and Canadian Olympic Committee (COC) president Tricia Smith blasted the British Columbia provincial government Friday for snubbing the team exploring the Vancouver 2030 Olympic and Paralympic Winter Games bid, leading to the project’s demise. It was to be the first-ever indigenous-led Olympics. “Let’s get together,” Smith implored the provincial government and […]

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On 10/29/2022 at 8:09 AM, AustralianFan said:

I agree.

The arrogance of the BC Government having  a First Nations led bid

then not telling the First Nations that you have cancelled

Apalling, shameful behaviour.

 

 

 

1 hour ago, Faster said:

Tone-deaf.

Apalling, shameful behaviour by the BC Government for having  a First Nations led bid

then not telling the First Nations that you have cancelled the bid.

The First Nations peoples have every right to be angry at the tone deaf, patronising and foolish behaviour of the BC Government and Vancouver Organising Committee, of which they are meant to be a part of.

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Why there’s a move to revive Canadian 2030 Olympic bid - Deseret News 24Nov22

Could Vancouver get back in the race to host the 2030 Winter Games?

“Canada’s Olympic and Paralympic committees are formally urging officials in British Columbia to reconsider their rejection last month of Vancouver’s bid to become the first indigenous-led Games, according to the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation.”

“A letter signed by the presidents of both the national Olympic and Paralympic committees asked for a meeting and expressed “surprise” at the decision announced by the provincial government that was seen as narrowing the fieldfor 2030 to just Salt Lake City and Sapporo, Japan.”

 

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“The letter, seen by insidethegames, and signed by Canadian Olympic Committee (COC) President Tricia Smith and Canadian Paralympic Committee (CPC) President Marc-Andre Fabien expressed "surprise" at the Government of British Columbia opting not to back the bid, and called for an in-person meeting between all parties.”

"With the feasibility work completed and a draft proposal submitted, we expected the next step to be a face-to-face meeting with all parties to discuss the costs and benefits, priorities, and possibilities," part of the letter read.”

"The Government of British Columbia has not yet given any of the parties, despite attempts by us and the nations, an opportunity to have this discussion.”

 

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With all that's transpired with the Vancouver bid, alarm bells should be going off in Lausanne. Despite the so-called New Norm, Agenda 2020, or whatever you want to call it, the fact of the matter is the IOC is going into the homestretch of the 2030 race in the exact same position numerically as they were in the 2022 race. Don't get me wrong, a choice between Salt Lake City or Sapporo is vastly different from that of Beijing and Almaty. Here you have two candidates that can put on a successful Olympics.

The problem is Vancouver's bid checked all the boxes in terms of legacy, cost effectiveness using existing venues and infrastructure, the opportunity to refurbish the 2010 venues cementing Vancouver's status as the winter sports capital of Canada, and the unique angle of having the First Nations lead it. Despite all that, the BC government determined that an Olympic bid was not cost effective. With all the IOC has done and talked about, if you cannot convince a city like Vancouver to keep their hat in the ring, then it's clear something is wrong in your messaging. Based on a recent poll (granted it`s only one) the majority of Vancouver citizens support the decision to withdraw the bid. I've said before and I`ll say it again, the IOC has a messaging problem when it comes to communicating the benefits of an Olympics at a grassroots level, and the tepid at best support Vancouver had is evidence of that. Now I will acknowledge the IOC and the bidding environment has an unexpected headwind and that is the likelihood of a global recession in 2023 and one that could last into 2024 or 2025. Trying to convince people to spend taxpayer money on an Olympics when people are struggling to make ends meet due to rising inflation and gas prices is a tall order and it's a minefield the IOC is going to have to navigate. I for one hope Vancouver gives it another shot in 2034 even if SLC gets 2030. The limited number of bidders who seem to want to put forth their hats for a WOGs bid means I could easily see the IOC going to North America in back to back years.

One final thought regarding to the effort to revive this thing. I get the frustration especially from the First Nations, but the elephant in the room has always been who's going to pay for this, and everyone knew it was going to be BC. There's a simple but unlikely solution to this dilemma. the BC government just has to tell the COC and the First Nations, fine the bid is back on provided both of you cut the check for the costs of the Olympics plus any and inevitable cost overruns. No money. No bid. 

2030 Olympics: BC made right decision | CityNews Vancouver

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“The Executive Board also discussed the possibility of awarding the hosting rights to 2030 and 2034 simultaneously to “create stability for the winter sport and the Olympic Winter Games.”

Christophe Dubi, Olympic Games Executive Director:

“The three interested parties have been informed of those conversations and discussions,” without naming the cities. Sapporo and Salt Lake City are interested parties; Vancouver was out of contention but may be back in the running.”

Credit: Hostcity.com - 7 Dec 2022

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4 hours ago, AustralianFan said:

“The Executive Board also discussed the possibility of awarding the hosting rights to 2030 and 2034 simultaneously to “create stability for the winter sport and the Olympic Winter Games.”

Christophe Dubi, Olympic Games Executive Director:

“The three interested parties have been informed of those conversations and discussions,” without naming the cities. Sapporo and Salt Lake City are interested parties; Vancouver was out of contention but may be back in the running.”

Credit: Hostcity.com - 7 Dec 2022

It is gonna be rough to find a city for 2030 Olympics because of the climate change concerns.

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Canadian First Nations Disheartened Over Lack of Support for 2030 Olympic Bid

  • “Other factors in the decision not to financially back the bid include Vancouver being a host city for the 2026 Men's World Cup of Soccer and the 2025 Invictus Games.”
  • Chief Jen Thomas of the Tseil-Waututh First Nation said the decision marks 10 steps back for the process of reconciliation. She said the organizers of the bid could live with the answer being no, but are upset that the provincial government did not make an effort to discuss the proposal with the First Nations, or the Canadian Paralympic and Olympic Committees. “
  • "You know, we did invite the province to come to our table to talk about this," she said. "We were asked by the province to share why we want the Olympics, why it's so important to us, and we didn't even get that opportunity to share that with them."
  • Wilson Williams of the Squamish First Nation, said despite the provincial government's claims of reconciliation and working with U.N. Declaration on the Rights of Indigenous Peoples, the British Columbia provincial government is not truly ready. “
  • "And you know, I know they're working with colonial system that keeps pushing Indigenous peoples away," Williams said. "But at the same time, like I said, we're not going away. We will stand strong in order to have our voice heard." 
  • “Along with the other First Nations and the Canadian Paralympic and Olympic Committees, Wilson said his people are still open to discussions with the provincial government on the project.”
  • “He noted that the First Nations are not involved in Vancouver being a host city for the 2026 World Cup or the Invictus Games. “
  • “In a written statement to VOA, a spokesperson for Lisa Beare, the tourism minister, said she offered to meet with the First Nations and is willing to do so. However, after evaluating the proposal for over a year, "the Government had made a decision and felt it was important to relay that decision to the Nations as soon as possible."
  • “Beare and the provincial government initially rejected hosting the World Cup, only to later reverse course.”
  • Montreal-based Lawyer Richard Pound is the longest serving active member of the International Olympic Committee and says there is still a chance for the bid to be successful.”
  • "This could turn out to be just a hiccup that could be solved by sitting down and saying what are the plans? And, you know, can they be altered in any respect that to sort of address some of the concerns that the government has expressed?"

VOA News - 3 Nov 2022

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yeah that thing's in a coma.  But, its a place that the IOC really should be having boots on the ground nonetheless at this juncture.  They should have had them there a long time ago, because time is short, and I dont think theres enough time to turn Vancouver around.

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This is like a catch-22, really. The IOC is, unfortunately, in a damn-if-you-do, or a damn-if-you-don't situation (kinda like past bidders who lost, & then in hindsight, it was blamed that their bid wasn't aggressive enough in the campaign. But had they been aggressive, & still lost, then it would've been blamed that they were too arrogant). I think the IOC might be afraid of going in & talking directly to the people (& in a way, I can't say I really blame them. Cause that could have the potential of making things worse for them). They just talk to the local officials & then let them try to deal with the local citizenry. But that strategy alone is not working anymore. So they have to get somehow more creative to get their message across. In this day & age of social media, one would think that would be easy. But then again even there, SM can also destroy a message, since the naysayers are almost always usually louder. But deflecting the problem & blaming it solely on "climate concern" (which of course, is a concern, but not the only one) is not the answer, either.

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