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On 10/5/2020 at 7:20 PM, Quaker2001 said:

Let's revisit that one a month from now and hope and pray that there is hope for the future and not that the American dream can officially be dead and buried

Revisited: Half alive, half dead, I‘d say. But let‘s see the glass as half full for now and look forward optimistically.
 

But to keep it relevant to the thread topic, I doubt the election has any effect on Beijing 2022, which will go ahead regardless, cost what it may.

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My goodness, man.. get off Pavlovian streak of yours when you get excited anytime you see the slightest hint of what could look like a boycott. You do realize that Trump is about to no longer be

What’s that? Suicide for fear of death?    Never in a million years would athletes en masse go for that idea.

I mean, it's only fair that they are punished and equally get their games cancelled if Tokyo loses them. Even if they did not caused the pandemic, the fact that their lies and constant cover ups of th

With Trump now out of the game, the probablity (if there was any) of an american boycott to Beijing 2022 is pretty much zero. Now lets hope Biden can do a good answer to COVID in his presidency.

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On 11/7/2020 at 5:02 AM, StefanMUC said:

Revisited: Half alive, half dead, I‘d say. But let‘s see the glass as half full for now and look forward optimistically.
 

But to keep it relevant to the thread topic, I doubt the election has any effect on Beijing 2022, which will go ahead regardless, cost what it may.

I'm not celebrating yet, but there is definitely some optimism on the horizon that wasn't as clear a week ago.

And yes, as for the 2022 Olympics.. much less concern there will be any intervention on the part of the government now that we are going to have Biden instead of Trump.  Can't really see him getting involved here trying to use the Olympics as a statement on China.

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On 11/7/2020 at 9:21 PM, Ikarus360 said:

With Trump now out of the game, the probablity (if there was any) of an american boycott to Beijing 2022 is pretty much zero. Now lets hope Biden can do a good answer to COVID in his presidency.

https://www.economist.com/international/2020/11/08/calls-to-boycott-the-beijing-winter-olympics-are-growing-stronger

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On 11/9/2020 at 6:01 AM, Quaker2001 said:

I'm not celebrating yet, but there is definitely some optimism on the horizon that wasn't as clear a week ago.

And yes, as for the 2022 Olympics.. much less concern there will be any intervention on the part of the government now that we are going to have Biden instead of Trump.  Can't really see him getting involved here trying to use the Olympics as a statement on China.

He might have to for electoral purposes.

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The SNP is not "the left". And can we take anything the SNP says about Team GB with a pinch of salt please?

(that said, I can't find any link which says the SNP are calling for a boycott, can you post one?)

 

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1 hour ago, Rob. said:

The SNP is not "the left". And can we take anything the SNP says about Team GB with a pinch of salt please?

(that said, I can't find any link which says the SNP are calling for a boycott, can you post one?)

 

In October one of their front-bench mentioned in the commons a boycott of Bejing 2022 should be considered.

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5 hours ago, REDWHITEBLUE24 said:

http://www.businessworld.in/article/Trump-signs-order-banning-Americans-from-investing-in-companies-that-support-Chinese-military-/13-11-2020-342251/

If Trump signs a pro boycott order I cant see Biden rescinding it due to the popularity of being tough on China.

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My goodness, man.. get off Pavlovian streak of yours when you get excited anytime you see the slightest hint of what could look like a boycott.

You do realize that Trump is about to no longer be president, right?  Short of one of the biggest political coups ever, Joe Biden is about to be POTUS.  He doesn't need to take a stand on China to help get elected.  The vote already happened.

And what is a "pro boycott order" anyway?  Do you think with all that's going on right now that either Trump (likely not going to be the president in 2022) or Biden is thinking about the Olympics at this point?  Just because you're making all these posts to fill 9 pages worth of a thread does not mean they're pushing to make these decisions now.  You need to get it in your head that just because this is a hot topic for you now doesn't mean government officials are going to make decisions *now* for an event that is still 15 months away and also happens to have another Olympics in front of it.

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21 hours ago, Quaker2001 said:

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My goodness, man.. get off Pavlovian streak of yours when you get excited anytime you see the slightest hint of what could look like a boycott.

You do realize that Trump is about to no longer be president, right?  Short of one of the biggest political coups ever, Joe Biden is about to be POTUS.  He doesn't need to take a stand on China to help get elected.  The vote already happened.

And what is a "pro boycott order" anyway?  Do you think with all that's going on right now that either Trump (likely not going to be the president in 2022) or Biden is thinking about the Olympics at this point?  Just because you're making all these posts to fill 9 pages worth of a thread does not mean they're pushing to make these decisions now.  You need to get it in your head that just because this is a hot topic for you now doesn't mean government officials are going to make decisions *now* for an event that is still 15 months away and also happens to have another Olympics in front of it.

A lot of people expect Trump to sign lots of crazy orders in early January that he can forever attack Biden rescinding them Once January 20th comes.

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2 hours ago, REDWHITEBLUE24 said:

A lot of people expect Trump to sign lots of crazy orders in early January that he can forever attack Biden rescinding them Once January 20th comes.

Do you honestly think at this point in time that Donald Trump gives 2 craps about the 2022 Olympics?  That he will make any sort of executive order affecting the USA's participation?  

If he had won the election, then yea, this could have been a thing at some point.  But you need to move away from this idea that anything is going to happen 15 months away from the Olympics.  Next summer after Tokyo, then there will be more focus on China.  Not until then

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Trump's executive orders will carry about as much weight as a gnat's butthole after the election.  Trump can attack them, it wont mean anything when hes behind bars.  In two and a half months, the day he steps out of office, New York is going to extradite and charge him for a bunch of stuff they have on deck.  Hes going to be much more occupied with trying to stay out of jail than attacking biden.  Trump will be 1000 percent irrelevant very shortly, at least until 2024.  By which, obviously, Beijing will be over by then.  

There is a more than reasonable possibility Beijing could be boycotted, but not with anything to do with the orange orangutan.  

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19 minutes ago, mountainboarder_530@yahoo. said:

Trump's executive orders will carry about as much weight as a gnat's butthole after the election.  Trump can attack them, it wont mean anything when hes behind bars.  In two and a half months, the day he steps out of office, New York is going to extradite and charge him for a bunch of stuff they have on deck.  Hes going to be much more occupied with trying to stay out of jail than attacking biden.  Trump will be 1000 percent irrelevant very shortly, at least until 2024.  By which, obviously, Beijing will be over by then.  

There is a more than reasonable possibility Beijing could be boycotted, but not with anything to do with the orange orangutan.  

I still have doubts that there will be larger organized boycotts on the level of what we saw in the 1970s and 1980s.  Individuals may make those decisions, but I don't see a scenario where an entire country says "we refuse to send our athletes to Beijing."  It's possible, but I don't see what the goal of that is intended to accomplish as if anything will result from it

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21 hours ago, Quaker2001 said:

Do you honestly think at this point in time that Donald Trump gives 2 craps about the 2022 Olympics?  That he will make any sort of executive order affecting the USA's participation?  

If he had won the election, then yea, this could have been a thing at some point.  But you need to move away from this idea that anything is going to happen 15 months away from the Olympics.  Next summer after Tokyo, then there will be more focus on China.  Not until then

Plenty of people do think he will as it be a perfect issue for Trump TV  to then attack Biden for.

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57 minutes ago, REDWHITEBLUE24 said:

Plenty of people do think he will as it be a perfect issue for Trump TV  to then attack Biden for.

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Who is "plenty of people" that think that?  Are they the same people that still think Trump won the election?

And I can assure you that Joe Biden is going to get negative fucks about Trump TV and anything that gets said by them.  They're undoubtedly going to find 1,000 things to criticize Biden about.  The United States' participation in the 2022 Olympics is going to be really far down that list.

I'll say it again.. for crying out loud, please stop pretending like there's more than a tiny handful of people that care about this as much as you want to think they do.

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On 11/14/2020 at 5:21 PM, Quaker2001 said:

I still have doubts that there will be larger organized boycotts on the level of what we saw in the 1970s and 1980s.  Individuals may make those decisions, but I don't see a scenario where an entire country says "we refuse to send our athletes to Beijing."  It's possible, but I don't see what the goal of that is intended to accomplish as if anything will result from it

I think it's quite likely.

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7 hours ago, REDWHITEBLUE24 said:

I think it's quite likely.

If you say so.  I think that notion is so ingrained in your head, you assume it'll happen without any real evidence.  Just generic hearsay and conjecture.

It's possible that it might happen, but it's going to take a lot more than someone simply saying the word "boycott" to make it so.

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