Moved 2022 before its to late.

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https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/12863358/uk-may-boycott-winter-olympics/

'The BOA would not respond to Raab’s comments but stressed they are completely independent from government interference.'

 

 

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Meanwhile Labour Mp Graham Stringer ( More nationalistic than many Labour Mp's) reminded Raab of Thatcher's failed attempts to get Team GB to boycott 1980.

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https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1344769/beijing-winter-olympics-2022-uk-boycott-iain-duncan-smith-dominic-raab

'IAIN Duncan Smith has backed calls for a boycott of the Beijing Winter Olympics in 2022 over human rights abuses by China.'

http://www.mcivortimes.com.au/national/2020/10/07/1720686/minister-cool-on-chinese-olympics-boycott

'Australia's sports minister has shrugged off calls to boycott the 2022 Beijing Winter Olympics over human rights abuses in China.'

'"It is not the government but the independent Australian Olympic Committee who are responsible for sending teams to winter and summer Olympic Games," he told parliament on Wednesday.'

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https://www.telegraph.co.uk/olympics/2020/10/07/no-plans-ask-british-athletes-boycott-beijing-2022-winter-olympics/

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https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-10-08/push-for-australia-to-boycott-china-winter-olympics/12740548

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2020/oct/08/minister-cool-on-winter-olympics-boycott-over-human-rights-abuses

Australia's senate might pass a motion calling for a boycott.

 

[Quaker2001]

11 hours ago, REDWHITEBLUE24 said:

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/olympics/2020/10/07/no-plans-ask-british-athletes-boycott-beijing-2022-winter-olympics/

Have you noticed the common thread running through a lot of these articles?  Politicians want boycotts.  But they don't seem too eager to impose that upon the athletes.  In other words.. exactly what I've been saying this while time.

Will the Australian Olympic Committee or the British Olympics Committee or whoever else tell their Olympics they're not going to compete?  Because it remains a question whether or not the threat of withholding funding would even be on the table.

To say it yet again.. I'll believe it when I see it

 

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On 10/8/2020 at 4:03 AM, Quaker2001 said:

Have you noticed the common thread running through a lot of these articles?  Politicians want boycotts.  But they don't seem too eager to impose that upon the athletes.  In other words.. exactly what I've been saying this while time.

Will the Australian Olympic Committee or the British Olympics Committee or whoever else tell their Olympics they're not going to compete?  Because it remains a question whether or not the threat of withholding funding would even be on the table.

To say it yet again.. I'll believe it when I see it

 

https://www.insidethegames.biz/index.php/articles/1099360/coates-angry-over-beijing-boycott-call

 

 

[Quaker2001]

4 hours ago, REDWHITEBLUE24 said:

https://www.insidethegames.biz/index.php/articles/1099360/coates-angry-over-beijing-boycott-call

Are you seeing the pattern develop here?  Politicians are calling for boycotts.  Those who actually have a stake in the Olympics and Olympic committees are essentially telling them to piss off.

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15 hours ago, Quaker2001 said:

Are you seeing the pattern develop here?  Politicians are calling for boycotts.  Those who actually have a stake in the Olympics and Olympic committees are essentially telling them to piss off.

But in the UK the funding means if the government wants a boycott funding for athletes might end.

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https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-10-11/should-australia-boycott-the-beijing-2022-winter-olympic-games/12751614

 

I don't think it was as diverse in the UK - A few sports boycotted but those who went suffered no reputational harm.

[Quaker2001]

On 10/10/2020 at 12:07 PM, REDWHITEBLUE24 said:

But in the UK the funding means if the government wants a boycott funding for athletes might end.

And how exactly would that work?  Is the UK going to stop funding Summer athletes too?  Because that's going to be a terrible optic to fund athletes for Tokyo and then not fund athletes for Beijing 6 months later.  Even if there's a pretty obvious political motive behind it, the messaging is likely going to get lost and in the end, the only thing that will have been accomplished is that Great Britain will have stolen what could be some athletes' only shot at the Olympics

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On 10/12/2020 at 3:02 AM, Quaker2001 said:

And how exactly would that work?  Is the UK going to stop funding Summer athletes too?  Because that's going to be a terrible optic to fund athletes for Tokyo and then not fund athletes for Beijing 6 months later.  Even if there's a pretty obvious political motive behind it, the messaging is likely going to get lost and in the end, the only thing that will have been accomplished is that Great Britain will have stolen what could be some athletes' only shot at the Olympics

https://ipolitics.ca/2020/10/08/boycotting-the-2022-winter-games-should-be-one-way-canada-sticks-it-to-china/

Athletes saying they will go no matter what  might end up being seen as being pro Regime.

[Quaker2001]

2 hours ago, REDWHITEBLUE24 said:

https://ipolitics.ca/2020/10/08/boycotting-the-2022-winter-games-should-be-one-way-canada-sticks-it-to-china/

Athletes saying they will go no matter what  might end up being seen as being pro Regime.

That'll be interesting.  So we'll go from "athletes shouldn't make political statements" to "every athlete is making a political statement."

Hopefully most people aren't that vapid to think that any athlete who wants to compete in the Olympics is supporting China.  Again, tell that to every athlete who missed out on the 1980 Olympics and never got another shot

[olympikfan]

But outside of Humans rights. At this point in the world, Tokyo 2020 might get cancel. so why reward China for lying costing over a million lives lost. And costing the world economy trillion of dollars. Australia  wants an international inquiry on Cobid-19 and China is not cooperating with the world.

 

[Quaker2001]

4 hours ago, olympikfan said:

But outside of Humans rights. At this point in the world, Tokyo 2020 might get cancel. so why reward China for lying costing over a million lives lost. And costing the world economy trillion of dollars. Australia  wants an international inquiry on Cobid-19 and China is not cooperating with the world.

At this point in the world, Tokyo might *not* get cancelled.  Either way, it will have no bearing on what happens with 2022.

China was "rewarded" with the hosting rights to the 2022 Olympics more than 5 years ago.  There are signed contracts between China and the IOC where neither side can back out on a whim.  Despite what you have as the title of the thread, it is way too late to move the 2022 Olympics from China.  So the IOC has 2 choices.. hold the 2022 Winter Games in Beijing as scheduled.  Or cancel them entirely.  Do you think for a split second the IOC will consider doing that?  Zero chance that happens and I think you know that.  Let countries or athletes boycott if they want to make a stand.  The "but human rights" argument is not going to make the IOC change their minds.

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https://abcnews.go.com/Sports/wireStory/questions-human-rights-beijing-winter-olympics-73651039

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https://www.insidethegames.biz/index.php/articles/1099639/coates-beijing-2022-bill-brisbane-2032

Australia might end up getting banned from the olympics - surely that will cause an u turn - the summer olympics is very popular there.

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https://theowp.org/australia-to-consider-2022-beijing-winter-olympics-boycott/

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https://www.taipeitimes.com/News/editorials/archives/2020/10/23/2003745623

https://www.globaltimes.cn/content/1204371.shtml

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The BOA  is opposing a boycott but the government seems to still be considering it.

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The UK Parliament might vote to order Disney to be summoned to explain it's involvement in China.

 

Don't underestimate how popular a boycott of 2022 will be in most countries - only athletes might be willing to publicly oppose come this time next year.

[olympikfan]

I agree with you  RWB  the world will see it as pay back for the Covid 19. Why reward China when they  screwed the world.

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14 hours ago, olympikfan said:

I agree with you  RWB  the world will see it as pay back for the Covid 19. Why reward China when they  screwed the world.

A lot of athletes will get a big shock if they not emotionally prepared to not be able to go.

 

[Quaker2001]

On 11/5/2020 at 6:33 AM, REDWHITEBLUE24 said:

The UK Parliament might vote to order Disney to be summoned to explain it's involvement in China.

 

Don't underestimate how popular a boycott of 2022 will be in most countries - only athletes might be willing to publicly oppose come this time next year.

Don't overestimate how popular a boycott of 2022 will be in most countries.  Let alone a year from not when who knows where we are in the pandemic (or other socio-political matters), let alone how people feel about China.

This is the textbook definition of putting the cart before the horse.  You think a vocal minority (and they're very much a minority) will push for a boycott and it's on the NOC's and the athletes to oppose it.  That's not how this is going to go down.  I don't believe when it comes down to it that government leaders will impose their will and think they're making some sort of grandiose statement when it's not going to accomplish anything.  Nor will the narrative be that any athlete attending the Olympics is somehow supportive of China's regime and all that comes with it.  I can see in a forum like this how someone might think that.  I don't think it's going to actually play out that way just because you found a couple of articles with people saying they want it to happen.

[Quaker2001]

15 hours ago, olympikfan said:

I agree with you  RWB  the world will see it as pay back for the Covid 19. Why reward China when they  screwed the world.

Dude, you need to stop it with the "reward" narrative.  We all know China unleashed this plague on the world.  They already have the Olympics.  That "reward" is NOT going to be taken away from them.  Because the only people that can take that away from them is the IOC.  And there is ZERO chance they do that.  Because if they do, there will be no Winter Olympics in 2022.  And that's not an option. 

It is too late to move the 2022 Olympics, in spite of what the thread title says.  Will some athletes decide to make the decision not to support China and refuse to travel and compete there?  I'm sure they will.  But that will be a very tiny and insignificant number of people.  Olympians will not give up what's potentially a once in a lifetime dream to compete in the Olympics over political views.  Ask every athlete that missed out on Moscow in 1980 how that worked out for them