FYI Posted July 11 Report Share Posted July 11 11 hours ago, REDWHITEBLUE24 said: The Parliament in the UK likely to vote for to ask the IOC to move the games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iceman530 Posted July 13 Report Share Posted July 13 redwhiteblue, its seven months out, you should actually be rooting for this. You want China to be embarrassed??? Xinjiang might or might not be brought up............but COVID sure as hell is. The disease has proved resilient. If even one hot spot emerges in China between now and the games, even with a Chinese "vaccine", its gonna be pandemonium (my wife has Chinese descent, her parents live in China, both got the Chinese-made vaccine, and both got the virus nonetheless. They barely survived. Its not effective). Let this happen, its going to do harm to China's image, not the prestige that they want. The spotlight is gonna be on them, and in at least one theatre, they are going to slip up, and it could be multiple. Thank god Almaty didnt get dragged into this mess, I bet they are counting their blessings now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quaker2001 Posted July 13 Report Share Posted July 13 10 hours ago, iceman530 said: redwhiteblue, its seven months out, you should actually be rooting for this. You want China to be embarrassed??? Xinjiang might or might not be brought up............but COVID sure as hell is. The disease has proved resilient. If even one hot spot emerges in China between now and the games, even with a Chinese "vaccine", its gonna be pandemonium (my wife has Chinese descent, her parents live in China, both got the Chinese-made vaccine, and both got the virus nonetheless. They barely survived. Its not effective). Let this happen, its going to do harm to China's image, not the prestige that they want. The spotlight is gonna be on them, and in at least one theatre, they are going to slip up, and it could be multiple. Thank god Almaty didnt get dragged into this mess, I bet they are counting their blessings now. Have you not seen all his posts? He is very openly rooting for there to be major fallout from this, possibly going so far as to cause the end of the Olympics and the IOC. Not sure if he's trolling or actually believes any of that though. As a fan of the Olympics, I want them to be okay, but as much of the fallout to hit China as possible. I don't want COVID to still be an issue come February just to do that though. The problem for them is that they'll want to whitewash all their issues (and COVID is far from the only one), but I think the world has wised up to them unlike how they did in 2008. Social media is going to be what gets them because unlike their last Olympics where a lot of people just shrugged their shoulders and moved on, that's not going to be the case here. I'm not worried about them slipping up so much as not being able to defend their actions when pressured. Because when the cameras are pointed at them and they're on stage in front of the world, people are going to start asking them the tough questions. Let's see if they have answers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDWHITEBLUE24 Posted July 14 Report Share Posted July 14 https://toysmatrix.com/coalition-opposing-genocide-games-calls-to-move-boycott-2022-olympics/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob. Posted July 15 Report Share Posted July 15 (edited) "The awarding of the 2008 Olympics to Beijing was accompanied by the International Olympics Committee promising that the Games would act as a catalyst for human rights reform in China. "Well, a widely acknowledged genocide in Xinjiang later, thousands of Tibetans arrested, imprisoned, displaced, tortured and killed later, the snuffing out of free speech and political freedoms in Hong Kong, and the trashing of the Sino-British Joint Declaration and imposition of their national security law later, that went well didn't it?" Beijing 2022: MPs in House of Commons support diplomatic boycott of next year's Winter Olympics in China https://www.skysports.com/olympics/news/15234/12356751/beijing-2022-mps-in-house-of-commons-support-diplomatic-boycott-of-next-years-winter-olympics-in-china Edited July 15 by Rob. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ulu Posted July 15 Report Share Posted July 15 A diplomatic boycott is basically a way to be seen as boycotting without actually boycotting. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDWHITEBLUE24 Posted July 16 Report Share Posted July 16 19 hours ago, ulu said: A diplomatic boycott is basically a way to be seen as boycotting without actually boycotting. And I don’t think it will wash with the public. At least one country will announce they going to properly boycott soon, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanMUC Posted July 16 Report Share Posted July 16 36 minutes ago, REDWHITEBLUE24 said: And I don’t think it will wash with the public. At least one country will announce they going to properly boycott soon, I‘m pretty sure Malawi will not attend. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FYI Posted July 17 Report Share Posted July 17 As I've stated a couple of times before, nothing short of China invading Taiwan (or something else foolishly big), before their opening ceremonies, will stop these Games from happening, nor makes the case for a boycott. Anything shy of that makes all the boycott blather moot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quaker2001 Posted July 17 Report Share Posted July 17 1 hour ago, FYI said: As I've stated a couple of times before, nothing short of China invading Taiwan (or something else foolishly big), before their opening ceremonies, will stop these Games from happening, nor makes the case for a boycott. Anything shy of that makes all the boycott blather moot. Diplomatic boycotts will start to gain some steam once Tokyo is in the rearview mirror (and perhaps in part spurred by any pandemic-related fallout from that). But it won't be more than that, IMO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDWHITEBLUE24 Posted July 19 Report Share Posted July 19 https://www.insidethegames.biz/articles/1110265/pence-urges-biden-oppose-beijing-2022 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDWHITEBLUE24 Posted July 19 Report Share Posted July 19 On 7/17/2021 at 6:19 PM, Quaker2001 said: Diplomatic boycotts will start to gain some steam once Tokyo is in the rearview mirror (and perhaps in part spurred by any pandemic-related fallout from that). But it won't be more than that, IMO America is about to accuse China of global hacking. How they can say it’s safe for athletes to go there is going to be a sight to see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Rob. Posted July 19 Report Share Posted July 19 (edited) Ok, so the forum won't let me submit any forms from my laptop in any browser (I can't even sign in to gamesbids anymore) but from my phone seems to work. Edited July 19 by Rob. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDWHITEBLUE24 Posted July 20 Report Share Posted July 20 Could we see countries repeating what they did in 1980 and competing under the Olympic flag and skipping the ceremonies? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ulu Posted July 21 Report Share Posted July 21 This dude is so desperate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanMUC Posted July 21 Report Share Posted July 21 6 hours ago, REDWHITEBLUE24 said: Could we see countries repeating what they did in 1980 and competing under the Olympic flag and skipping the ceremonies? Because that‘ll impress Xi so much he‘ll close all Uyghur „re-education“ camps the next day? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iceman530 Posted July 21 Report Share Posted July 21 China better be taking their bubble seriously, because Japan's bubble is already going horribly. Again, it sucks, but China's earned this. Everyone is still going to be as mad about COVID as before, and China is going to be stepping on eggshells primarily due to COVID, let alone human rights. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDWHITEBLUE24 Posted July 21 Report Share Posted July 21 12 hours ago, StefanMUC said: Because that‘ll impress Xi so much he‘ll close all Uyghur „re-education“ camps the next day? Of course not but it’s the type of thing that could say the country is boycotting and the athletes are going for pure sporting purposes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDWHITEBLUE24 Posted July 26 Report Share Posted July 26 https://www.insidethegames.biz/articles/1110767/us-commission-ioc-beijing-2022 https://www.reuters.com/lifestyle/sports/us-lawmakers-urge-ioc-delay-or-move-chinas-2022-winter-olympics-2021-07-23/ Cross party support for a full USA boycott. Hard to see Biden objecting to this - and if he backs USOC know they have to comply or they will not be able to financially afford to survive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stryker Posted July 27 Report Share Posted July 27 18 hours ago, REDWHITEBLUE24 said: https://www.insidethegames.biz/articles/1110767/us-commission-ioc-beijing-2022 https://www.reuters.com/lifestyle/sports/us-lawmakers-urge-ioc-delay-or-move-chinas-2022-winter-olympics-2021-07-23/ Cross party support for a full USA boycott. Hard to see Biden objecting to this - and if he backs USOC know they have to comply or they will not be able to financially afford to survive. Not happening. This is a symbolic protest. No legislation has or will be passed regarding the Olympics. Team USA and the rest of the world will go to a Beijing. At most there will be a diplomatic boycott. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stryker Posted July 27 Report Share Posted July 27 I will also add the USOPC is a non-profit entity. It is not affiliated with the U.S. government. There are limits as to what they can compel the USOPC to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iceman530 Posted July 28 Report Share Posted July 28 6 and a half months to go. Its happening in China, or its not happening at all. It will happen in China, and it frankly it is going to be miserable for the Olympic athletes with all the procedures that will be in place for the pandemic. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stryker Posted July 28 Report Share Posted July 28 2 hours ago, iceman530 said: It will happen in China, and it frankly it is going to be miserable for the Olympic athletes with all the procedures that will be in place for the pandemic. It won't be that bad but the restrictions will be tighter than Tokyo. Vaccinated athletes shouldn't have a problem though I would t rule out mandatory two week quarantines in the Olympic Village. Outside of that I expect China to be quite welcoming though I would not expect repeated reminders about wearing masks as in Tokyo as China will likely have stricter consequences for covid protocol violations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDWHITEBLUE24 Posted July 30 Report Share Posted July 30 https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/15730259/britain-political-boycott-winter-olympics-china/ https://www.rickscott.senate.gov/sen-rick-scott-no-excuse-bidens-inaction-moving-2022-olympic-games-out-communist-china https://www.rubio.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/2021/7/rubio-joins-cecc-commissioners-asking-ioc-president-to-postpone-and-relocate-2022-winter-olympics-if-china-does-not-end-abuses Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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