Ikarus360 Posted November 28, 2020 Report Share Posted November 28, 2020 Controversial country with controversial government which was elected in 2015 despite all of the previously mentioned causes controversy. Imagine my shock. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quaker2001 Posted November 28, 2020 Report Share Posted November 28, 2020 On 11/26/2020 at 4:57 PM, REDWHITEBLUE24 said: https://observerxtra.com/2020/11/26/plenty-of-reasons-to-boycott-2022-olympics-in-china/ More calls in Canada for a boycott. That's an opinion piece from a publication based on a town with a population of 12,000... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ulu Posted November 28, 2020 Report Share Posted November 28, 2020 Just now, Quaker2001 said: That's an opinion piece from a publication based on a town with a population of 12,000... An opinion piece that doesn't even have the authors name. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDWHITEBLUE24 Posted November 30, 2020 Report Share Posted November 30, 2020 I feel the latest prove that China actions have killed millions from covid will make the public's attitude to boycotting stronger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDWHITEBLUE24 Posted November 30, 2020 Report Share Posted November 30, 2020 'Proof' - Apologies for the misspelling and lack of ' '. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDWHITEBLUE24 Posted December 1, 2020 Report Share Posted December 1, 2020 https://www.skynews.com.au/details/_6213253120001 An Aussie Tv host calls for a boycott. I believe Sky News Australia is popular and influential with supporters of the current Aussie government. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olympikfan Posted December 2, 2020 Author Report Share Posted December 2, 2020 It took an Aussie to tell like it is, Come on world get with it. Over a trillions of dollars lost in economic activity. China hasn't take the responsibility for Covid 19. Their will be a huge public outcry to boycott if Coivd doesn't go away. The WHO still hasn't declare the pandemic over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quaker2001 Posted December 2, 2020 Report Share Posted December 2, 2020 16 hours ago, REDWHITEBLUE24 said: https://www.skynews.com.au/details/_6213253120001 An Aussie Tv host calls for a boycott. I believe Sky News Australia is popular and influential with supporters of the current Aussie government. Are you going to continue to post every time you see someone call for a boycott? I get that's the purpose of this thread, but it's going to get annoying and overbearing really quickly. If it hasn't already. 2 hours ago, olympikfan said: It took an Aussie to tell like it is, Come on world get with it. Over a trillions of dollars lost in economic activity. China hasn't take the responsibility for Covid 19. Their will be a huge public outcry to boycott if Coivd doesn't go away. The WHO still hasn't declare the pandemic over. Sure, because the Aussies are really influential when it comes to the Winter Olympics. Once again, to point out the obvious.. did you forget there's another Olympics on the calendar before Beijing? How we view China in relation to the pandemic could be a lot different a year from now. And thru the lens of the Olympics, we need to be on the other side of Tokyo before we can make an assessment on that one. More than that.. calls to boycott the 2022 Olympics are not and should not be about COVID. The central issue with China is human rights abuses. That's what would lead to a boycott. You didn't start this thread because of COVID. Remember that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ulu Posted December 2, 2020 Report Share Posted December 2, 2020 Sky News is basically the Australian equivalent of Fox News and even has the same owner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ulu Posted December 2, 2020 Report Share Posted December 2, 2020 It's also nowhere near as popular in Australia as Fox News is in the US. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDWHITEBLUE24 Posted December 2, 2020 Report Share Posted December 2, 2020 17 hours ago, Quaker2001 said: Are you going to continue to post every time you see someone call for a boycott? I get that's the purpose of this thread, but it's going to get annoying and overbearing really quickly. If it hasn't already. Sure, because the Aussies are really influential when it comes to the Winter Olympics. Once again, to point out the obvious.. did you forget there's another Olympics on the calendar before Beijing? How we view China in relation to the pandemic could be a lot different a year from now. And thru the lens of the Olympics, we need to be on the other side of Tokyo before we can make an assessment on that one. More than that.. calls to boycott the 2022 Olympics are not and should not be about COVID. The central issue with China is human rights abuses. That's what would lead to a boycott. You didn't start this thread because of COVID. Remember that I think people will hate China even more in a year's time when more and more evidence emerges about how the vaccine came around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quaker2001 Posted December 3, 2020 Report Share Posted December 3, 2020 7 hours ago, REDWHITEBLUE24 said: I think people will hate China even more in a year's time when more and more evidence emerges about how the vaccine came around. Countries aren't going to boycott an Olympics out of hate. That's dumb and pointless. For years, the criticisms about China have been about major political issues. That's why the talks to boycott go back much further than the start of the pandemic. For the umpteenth time.. I know you get excited anytime you hear any talk of athletes or nations skipping the 2022 Olympics, but what is that supposed to accomplish? If it's about "hate" and payback for the pandemic, how does that hurt China or make them change their ways? You think they'll care if even a major country like Canada or Great Britain doesn't send its athletes and the platform behind that is about the virus? That doesn't make any sense. If there's any national backing behind these efforts (i.e. a country withholding funding so as to not support the sending of athletes to China), then that's a pretty big political statement. That needs to come with some sort of message of what they hope China will do in response. Sitting out from the Olympics on its own won't accomplish anything. It needs to be backed up with a "we are doing this because ________." Better have something there or else it's nothing more than an empty gesture that serves no real purpose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ulu Posted December 3, 2020 Report Share Posted December 3, 2020 9 hours ago, REDWHITEBLUE24 said: I think people will hate China even more in a year's time when more and more evidence emerges about how the vaccine came around. And how has the vaccine come around? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDWHITEBLUE24 Posted December 5, 2020 Report Share Posted December 5, 2020 On 12/3/2020 at 6:38 AM, Quaker2001 said: Countries aren't going to boycott an Olympics out of hate. That's dumb and pointless. For years, the criticisms about China have been about major political issues. That's why the talks to boycott go back much further than the start of the pandemic. For the umpteenth time.. I know you get excited anytime you hear any talk of athletes or nations skipping the 2022 Olympics, but what is that supposed to accomplish? If it's about "hate" and payback for the pandemic, how does that hurt China or make them change their ways? You think they'll care if even a major country like Canada or Great Britain doesn't send its athletes and the platform behind that is about the virus? That doesn't make any sense. If there's any national backing behind these efforts (i.e. a country withholding funding so as to not support the sending of athletes to China), then that's a pretty big political statement. That needs to come with some sort of message of what they hope China will do in response. Sitting out from the Olympics on its own won't accomplish anything. It needs to be backed up with a "we are doing this because ________." Better have something there or else it's nothing more than an empty gesture that serves no real purpose. Canada is likely to have an election next year and the opposition leader is known to be pro-boycott so if he wins I don't expect to see Team Canada in Beijing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quaker2001 Posted December 5, 2020 Report Share Posted December 5, 2020 2 hours ago, REDWHITEBLUE24 said: Canada is likely to have an election next year and the opposition leader is known to be pro-boycott so if he wins I don't expect to see Team Canada in Beijing. You need to stop taking any slight hint of a boycott as a strong indication it's going to happen. It's probably not going to happen. It'll take more than a leader that is "pro-boycott"... John Ivison: Boycott of Beijing Olympics is no substitute for a proper foreign policy Canada won’t lead boycott of 2022 Olympic Games in Beijing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDWHITEBLUE24 Posted December 10, 2020 Report Share Posted December 10, 2020 Slowly more and more sport stars are turning on China and Chinese companies so even if no nations boycott I think we might get some athletes boycotting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDWHITEBLUE24 Posted December 11, 2020 Report Share Posted December 11, 2020 If the UK puts sanctions on President Xi how could any British competitor attending the opening ceremony where he will open the games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quaker2001 Posted December 11, 2020 Report Share Posted December 11, 2020 21 hours ago, REDWHITEBLUE24 said: Slowly more and more sport stars are turning on China and Chinese companies so even if no nations boycott I think we might get some athletes boycotting. See, this I agree with. Individuals may say that their personal ideals are worth sacrificing the Olympics for and decide to say they refuse to go to China. Or at the very least speak out against them. 7 hours ago, REDWHITEBLUE24 said: If the UK puts sanctions on President Xi how could any British competitor attending the opening ceremony where he will open the games. This OTOH I don't agree with. Brits are not going to completely sever ties with China over government sanctions. I know it's a strange scenario involving Olympic athletes because they are government funded, but sanctions should not imply that a boycott is then automatic. Especially since that's a big "if" you're offering up there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDWHITEBLUE24 Posted December 12, 2020 Report Share Posted December 12, 2020 On 12/11/2020 at 7:11 PM, Quaker2001 said: See, this I agree with. Individuals may say that their personal ideals are worth sacrificing the Olympics for and decide to say they refuse to go to China. Or at the very least speak out against them. This OTOH I don't agree with. Brits are not going to completely sever ties with China over government sanctions. I know it's a strange scenario involving Olympic athletes because they are government funded, but sanctions should not imply that a boycott is then automatic. Especially since that's a big "if" you're offering up there True but who knows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDWHITEBLUE24 Posted December 14, 2020 Report Share Posted December 14, 2020 More and More politicians in the uk calling for Boycotting China - can't see how the government will be able to allow team GB to go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDWHITEBLUE24 Posted December 15, 2020 Report Share Posted December 15, 2020 Debate in the UK Commons tomorrow on China - I think Raab likely to repeat his open to a boycott stance when it is inevitably raised as part of it. I think the aftermath of him saying that might be when the BOA and British winter Olympians comment on it - they need to starting preparing for a full scale debate on their participation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ulu Posted December 15, 2020 Report Share Posted December 15, 2020 I wouldn't be surprised if @REDWHITEBLUE24is having wet dreams each night about boycotting the Olympics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDWHITEBLUE24 Posted January 6, 2021 Report Share Posted January 6, 2021 With more and more news from Hong Kong I can't see the UK government allowing the team to go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nacre Posted January 6, 2021 Report Share Posted January 6, 2021 (edited) I understand that you want a boycott to happen. And that is your prerogative. But the rest of us doubt it will happen unless there are statements to that effect from groups like the British Olympic Association or the US Olympic Committee. EDIT: And as I write this the US Capitol Building is being stormed by protesters in the American equivalent of the era of the Gracchi Brothers of the Roman Republic. We have much bigger things to worry about as a country than whether we will snub a Chinese-hosted Olympics. Edited January 6, 2021 by Nacre Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDWHITEBLUE24 Posted January 7, 2021 Report Share Posted January 7, 2021 https://nationalinterest.org/blog/politics/why-joe-biden-should-boycott-china’s-2022-winter-olympics-175292 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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