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Their are many countries very upset at China. India is one that is taking a stand to China. Many countries in Europe are taking steps to deal with China, and if Trump is reelected he might boycott the games and force others countries to do the same. Take heed IOC.

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While I don't think the IOC cares about India when it comes to Winter Olympics or about the volatile (to put it mildly) man in the White House, I wouldn't be surprised if 2022 is the next thing to blow up right into the IOC's face.

They chose Beijing in a competition between leftovers after all serious European contenders either didn't even make the starting line (Munich) or got fearful and annoyed along the way (Oslo), both accompanied or caused by sheer arrogance from Bach and company. That alone was problematic already, not least because of the human rights issues - but beggars couldn't be choosers in 2015 either and the fear for a potentially unstable Kazakhstan was obviously winning.

Now, less than two years before the scheduled opening ceremony, a lot will depend on the will of the Chinese government to set up proper health and safety standards and cooperate fully with international organisations such as the WHO to tackle both the cause and the effects of the pandemic. The risk for another major image problem for the IOC is definitely enormous, but I'm sure Thomas Bach will see this again as the Olympic torch being the light at the end of the tunnel, guiding light for China and the world to come out of this crisis and celebrate unity etc etc.

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3 hours ago, olympikfan said:

Their are many countries very upset at China. India is one that is taking a stand to China. Many countries in Europe are taking steps to deal with China, and if Trump is reelected he might boycott the games and force others countries to do the same. Take heed IOC.

Thank you for some good old-fashioned baseless speculation right there.  India - with a grand total of 21 athletes sent to the Winter Olympics - is going to take a stand?  European countries are going to send a message by.. doing what?  And if Trump gets re-elected (G-d help us all), do you really the USOPC or anyone else for that matter will give a $hit if he's pissed at China?

The IOC is in bed with China right now.  There is ZERO chance either party is willingly backing out of that agreement.  Especially given how much damage control they're going to have to do with regard to Japan in the 202One Olympics.  You can't honestly think the IOC is going to turn their backs on China.  What's the alternative?  Cancel the 2022 Olympics?  Pretty sure the IOC will not consider that an option, especially with how badly they're hurting right now with Tokyo.

2 hours ago, StefanMUC said:

While I don't think the IOC cares about India when it comes to Winter Olympics or about the volatile (to put it mildly) man in the White House, I wouldn't be surprised if 2022 is the next thing to blow up right into the IOC's face.

They chose Beijing in a competition between leftovers after all serious European contenders either didn't even make the starting line (Munich) or got fearful and annoyed along the way (Oslo), both accompanied or caused by sheer arrogance from Bach and company. That alone was problematic already, not least because of the human rights issues - but beggars couldn't be choosers in 2015 either and the fear for a potentially unstable Kazakhstan was obviously winning.

Now, less than two years before the scheduled opening ceremony, a lot will depend on the will of the Chinese government to set up proper health and safety standards and cooperate fully with international organisations such as the WHO to tackle both the cause and the effects of the pandemic. The risk for another major image problem for the IOC is definitely enormous, but I'm sure Thomas Bach will see this again as the Olympic torch being the light at the end of the tunnel, guiding light for China and the world to come out of this crisis and celebrate unity etc etc.

The good thing about the 2022 Olympics is that there's so much focus on trying to salvage 2021 that very little attention will be paid to Beijing next September.  So most people in Olympics circles will forget about what they hate about China and why they probably shouldn't have been awarded an Olympics in the first place.  That said, be careful of how we remember history.  The final vote total for Beijing over Almaty was 44-40.  A couple of voters have a change of heart at the last moment and suddenly the country that "obviously" wasn't winning actually pulls it off.

That all aside.. yes, we're nearly 2 years away from the start of their Olympics.  Right now in the moment of this pandemic, there are a lot of fingers being pointed at China.  We know the lengths that Japan was willing to go to in order to make the world believe it would be safe to host the Olympics on schedule.  No one knows what the state of the world will be in 2 years or where we'll be in terms of this pandemic.  It's not as if we'll have forgotten about all this by the time the 2022 Olympics roll around, but it's unfair to evaluate the future based on the present in that regard.

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Nationalists generally love the Olympics as a venue for national competition. I doubt Trump would actually want to boycott the Olympics. Carter was a very different sort of president.

Blaming China for a disease that has killed thousands of their people is simply stupid. Should the French hate America because phylloxera came from America and destroys European grapes?

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8 hours ago, olympikfan said:

I doubted Trump was getting elected 2016.

In a democracy not taking its election rules from the 18th century, he wouldn’t have been. 
 

But Beijing 2022 fate will not depend on that Pennywise clown anyway.

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The IOC is ride or die with Beijing now.  There is no night in shiny armor to save it.  It HAS to succeed for them. China has a bullseye on their back right now whether they like it or not, and its mostly justified.  Their handling of the pandemic was simply shambolic, and yes they should share a heavy blame for that.  The Olympics is by far and away their best chance for a charm offensive at a world that is very..........very mad with them right now.

Kazakhstan would have been struggling mightily to pay this thing off with the huge plummet in oil and natural gas prices.  The Tenge is absolutely tanking right now.  The "stability" of China is looking like a good bet right now, because Kazakhstan would have made us pretty nervous right now with their current financial situation.  

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