Quaker2001 Posted March 16, 2021 Report Share Posted March 16, 2021 17 hours ago, REDWHITEBLUE24 said: Does Mitt Romney not realise that an economic boycott by companies will likely see athletes be unable to attend due to their sponsors pulling them out? Due to how entangled everything is an economic boycott would likely not be viable. 1 hour ago, REDWHITEBLUE24 said: It is, Say if Nike come under massive pressure to disinvest from China - how are they then going to sanction the athletes they have under contracts going off to China to compete? Did you actually read the article and see what Romney suggested before you decided to insert your own twisted and very ignorant narrative? You're the one who is entangling everything here just like you've done before. Romney is saying that American companies shouldn't directly benefit the Chinese economy. Divesting from China does not imply they can't supporting funding for athletes competing in China. Just like your nonsensical claims that trade sanctions fully prevent any interaction between these countries and China. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iceman530 Posted March 16, 2021 Report Share Posted March 16, 2021 Romney is no slouch, he knows how to make the Olympics work and was a big cog in the SLC movement for 2002. Romney's piece IMO is actually an extremely smart way to go about it IMO. Its pretty brilliant. Put them front and center, make them active and vocal, and make them untouchable all at the same time. I love the idea of loading up our delegation with Uighurs and Chinese dissidents. If there was no boycott, that would be a nice little alternative slap in the face. and in the name of the thread, yes, it is already too late to move the Olympics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ulu Posted March 16, 2021 Report Share Posted March 16, 2021 24 minutes ago, iceman530 said: I love the idea of loading up our delegation with Uighurs and Chinese dissidents. It might be a bit naive to think that China would approve their visas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDWHITEBLUE24 Posted March 18, 2021 Report Share Posted March 18, 2021 https://www.insidethegames.biz/articles/1105543/ioc-in-tight-spot-over-beijing-2022-blog Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDWHITEBLUE24 Posted March 19, 2021 Report Share Posted March 19, 2021 https://www.urdupoint.com/en/sports/us-continues-consultations-on-whether-to-boyc-1197060.html https://www.newsweek.com/ted-cruz-calls-olympics-moved-out-china-tensions-rise-between-beijing-us-1577513 https://www.malaysiasun.com/news/268163913/china-does-deserve-to-host-2022-winter-olympics-pompeo https://www.theglobeandmail.com/opinion/article-data-dive-with-nik-nanos-if-canada-and-china-can-fix-ties-does-the/ The Majority of Canadians support the Games being moved out of China and opposes the Government not supporting the motion when it was voted on in the Canadian parliament - will this be reflected in the thinking of the Canadian Government in deciding if to boycot or not? Especially as an election is looking possible for later this year, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quaker2001 Posted March 19, 2021 Report Share Posted March 19, 2021 15 minutes ago, REDWHITEBLUE24 said: https://www.urdupoint.com/en/sports/us-continues-consultations-on-whether-to-boyc-1197060.html https://www.newsweek.com/ted-cruz-calls-olympics-moved-out-china-tensions-rise-between-beijing-us-1577513 https://www.malaysiasun.com/news/268163913/china-does-deserve-to-host-2022-winter-olympics-pompeo https://www.theglobeandmail.com/opinion/article-data-dive-with-nik-nanos-if-canada-and-china-can-fix-ties-does-the/ The Majority of Canadians support the Games being moved out of China and opposes the Government not supporting the motion when it was voted on in the Canadian parliament - will this be reflected in the thinking of the Canadian Government in deciding if to boycot or not? Especially as an election is looking possible for later this year, (facepalm) You know who doesn't get to decide where the Olympics held? The Majority of Canadians. Or Ted Cruz, who only a week ago was saying not to boycott. Now he's saying move the whole thing out of China. Please stop with the "well there's an election, so they have to discuss whether they oppose not supporting the movement to take an anti-boycott position" or whatever other nonsense you can throw into a word salad. And as for the United States.. the default is that they're attending the Olympics. Spinning it as "they haven't decided whether or not they'll attend" as if they need someone's approval is a terrible narrative. They have to be convinced NOT to attend, not the other way around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triplecast Posted March 20, 2021 Report Share Posted March 20, 2021 1 hour ago, Quaker2001 said: (facepalm) And as for the United States.. the default is that they're attending the Olympics. Spinning it as "they haven't decided whether or not they'll attend" as if they need someone's approval is a terrible narrative. They have to be convinced NOT to attend, not the other way around. I wish a thoughtful reporter would remind Blinken or Psaki or any other Administration official who keeps saying they haven't decided on a boycott that the USOPC has announced on March 11 that USA athletes are attending the Beijing Olympic Winter Games and Paralympic Games and then a follow-up along the lines of "so are you prepared to force US athletes not to attend by any or all means necessary?" (revoke passports, etc. as was something that was suggested that the Carter Administration would do in 1980 if the USOC would not fall into line). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob2012 Posted March 20, 2021 Report Share Posted March 20, 2021 15 hours ago, Quaker2001 said: You know who doesn't get to decide where the Olympics held? The Majority of Canadians. Or Ted Cruz, who only a week ago was saying not to boycott. Now he's saying move the whole thing out of China. I'm much more interested in his campaign to move the 2024 Games to Pittsburgh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quaker2001 Posted March 20, 2021 Report Share Posted March 20, 2021 1 minute ago, Rob. said: I'm much more interested in his campaign to move the 2024 Games to Pittsburgh. Obscure movie line here. In the movie Apollo 13, they're showing a scene the astronauts are broadcasting back to Earth from their trip to the moon but it's not being shown on TV... All the networks dumped us. One of them said we made going to the moon as exciting as taking a trip to Pittsburgh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FYI Posted March 20, 2021 Report Share Posted March 20, 2021 1 hour ago, Rob. said: I'm much more interested in his campaign to move the 2024 Games to Pittsburgh. I think he should campaign to move Beijing 2022 to Cancun! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDWHITEBLUE24 Posted March 22, 2021 Report Share Posted March 22, 2021 https://www.scmp.com/news/china/politics/article/3126333/naming-and-shaming-latest-strategy-rights-groups-seeking ‘Naming and shaming’ latest strategy by rights groups seeking boycott of Beijing Winter Olympics Sponsors, other firms supporting 2022 Games named in attempt to create action over alleged human rights violations in Xinjiang, Tibet and Hong Kong https://www.oann.com/rep-cheney-participating-in-2022-olympics-would-whitewash-ccp-actions/ Rep. Liz Cheney (R-Wyo.) has joined several GOP lawmakers in calling for the U.S. to boycott the 2022 Winter Olympics in China. During an interview on Friday, Cheney cited China’s human rights abuses as a red flag that should deter America from participating in the event. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDWHITEBLUE24 Posted March 22, 2021 Report Share Posted March 22, 2021 I think the UK government will shift to a pro-boycott position soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Triplecast Posted March 22, 2021 Report Share Posted March 22, 2021 2 hours ago, REDWHITEBLUE24 said: I think the UK government will shift to a pro-boycott position soon. And the British Olympic Association will tell the UK Government what they can do with their boycott. Plus, Great Britain has a perfect record of Olympic attendance. 56 Summer and Winter Olympic Games held, 56 times Great Britain has sent a team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quaker2001 Posted March 22, 2021 Report Share Posted March 22, 2021 7 hours ago, REDWHITEBLUE24 said: https://www.scmp.com/news/china/politics/article/3126333/naming-and-shaming-latest-strategy-rights-groups-seeking ‘Naming and shaming’ latest strategy by rights groups seeking boycott of Beijing Winter Olympics Sponsors, other firms supporting 2022 Games named in attempt to create action over alleged human rights violations in Xinjiang, Tibet and Hong Kong It seems really typical of the social media age that the response to human rights abuses in China is "naming and shaming." Not trying to help improve the situation and those people in China, but rather to punish anyone and everyone associated with them. IMO, it's one of the worst types of virtue signaling, because you make it seem like you're doing something, when in truth you're doing absolutely nothing. 7 hours ago, REDWHITEBLUE24 said: https://www.oann.com/rep-cheney-participating-in-2022-olympics-would-whitewash-ccp-actions/ Rep. Liz Cheney (R-Wyo.) has joined several GOP lawmakers in calling for the U.S. to boycott the 2022 Winter Olympics in China. During an interview on Friday, Cheney cited China’s human rights abuses as a red flag that should deter America from participating in the event. OAN. Even the commenters on that article say she's a whackjob. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FYI Posted March 22, 2021 Report Share Posted March 22, 2021 At least she stood up to the other big whackjob. Unlike the other lackey cheetoh-lickers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDWHITEBLUE24 Posted March 23, 2021 Report Share Posted March 23, 2021 Emma Hardy (Kingston upon Hull West and Hessle) (Lab) this specific contribution Given the actions and the rightful condemnation that the Foreign Secretary has announced today, does he still feel it will be appropriate to hold the winter 2022 Olympics in Beijing? Dominic Raab this specific contributiThe hon. Lady raises a perfectly legitimate question, but we have a long tradition in this country of keeping politics and sport separate. Of course, she will also know that that is an independent decision made by the sporting authorities, and not one for the Government. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDWHITEBLUE24 Posted March 23, 2021 Report Share Posted March 23, 2021 Jamie Stone (Caithness, Sutherland and Easter Ross) (LD) this specific contribution If he will make an assessment with Cabinet colleagues on the potential merits of Team GB boycotting the 2022 winter Olympic and Paralympic games in Beijing. (912800) The Minister for Asia (Nigel Adams)this specific contribution The hon. Member will no doubt have heard the Prime Minister highlight that we are not normally in favour of sporting boycotts. Along with that, participation of the national team at the winter Olympics is a matter for the British Olympic Association, which is required to operate independently of the Government under International Olympic Committee regulations. Jamie Stone [V] I am indeed aware of what the Prime Minister has said. Nevertheless, allies such as the United States and Canada have referred to what is going on in Xinjiang province as genocide. First, does the Minister agree that we should get international condemnation of these ghastly goings on in China? Secondly, in view of what the Prime Minister said, does the Minister agree that we should support those athletes who choose individually to boycott the winter Olympic and Paralympic games, as a demonstration of their opposition to this genocide? Nigel Adams We are leading international action, including at the UN, to hold China to account. We have led from the front. We have an increasing cohort of countries supporting our statements on the happenings in Xinjiang. This is a matter for the British Olympic Association and the individual sportsmen. The British Olympic Association is required to operate independently of Government, and rightly so, under the regulations set down by the International Olympic Committee. This is a matter for the Olympic organisations and individual sportsmen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDWHITEBLUE24 Posted March 23, 2021 Report Share Posted March 23, 2021 The Lord Bishop of St Albans [V] What consideration have Her Majesty’s Government given to the suggestion of a diplomatic and economic, rather than full-scale, boycott of the 2022 Beijing winter Olympics, in response to China’s ongoing repression of the Uighur Muslim minority? Lord Parkinson of Whitley Bay My right honourable friend the Prime Minister has made clear that we are not normally in favour of sporting boycotts. The broader question of the participation of the national team at the winter Olympics is a matter for the British Olympic Association, which is required to operate independently of the Government under the International Olympic Committee regulations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob2012 Posted March 23, 2021 Report Share Posted March 23, 2021 (edited) The above posts, for people who don't follow UK politics, are in relation to this.... https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/china-xinjiang-genocide-trade-bill-b1820812.html Edited March 23, 2021 by Rob. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDWHITEBLUE24 Posted March 24, 2021 Report Share Posted March 24, 2021 https://www.firstpost.com/sports/republican-senator-rick-scott-urges-ioc-to-move-2022-winter-olympics-out-of-china-citing-human-rights-issues-9459711.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanMUC Posted March 25, 2021 Report Share Posted March 25, 2021 Maybe he can line up Florida for that one too, like the plan to stand in for Tokyo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quaker2001 Posted March 25, 2021 Report Share Posted March 25, 2021 14 hours ago, REDWHITEBLUE24 said: https://www.firstpost.com/sports/republican-senator-rick-scott-urges-ioc-to-move-2022-winter-olympics-out-of-china-citing-human-rights-issues-9459711.html Has Rick Scott not figured out yet that the IOC doesn't care about his "urges" and that if they've been ignoring him since 2019, they're probably going to continue to ignore him? That's a rhetorical question of course and now this is all just a bunch of virtue signaling from him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FYI Posted March 25, 2021 Report Share Posted March 25, 2021 8 hours ago, StefanMUC said: Maybe he can line up Florida for that one too, like the plan to stand in for Tokyo. Lol, you read my mind, cuz I was gonna say. But that was actually “Jimmy” Patronis, the State’s CFO, with that big dumb idea. But yeah, Ricky should contact him, since he’s so vehement about “moving” Beijing 2022 somewhere else & Jimmy wanting some attention. And Rick Scott preaching to the IOC about “standing up for freedom” is so hypocritically rich. It’s like the IOC preaching about frugal spending, lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDWHITEBLUE24 Posted March 25, 2021 Report Share Posted March 25, 2021 Street protests in Indonesia https://jakartaglobe.id/vision/masked-protesters-rally-against-alleged-oppression-on-chinas-uighur-muslim Greece being very apologetic towards China https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202103/1219477.shtml More IOC news - https://www.insidethegames.biz/articles/1105850/beijing-ioc-eu-meetings A general report - https://www.morningbrew.com/daily/stories/2021/03/24/inside-growing-calls-boycott-2022-beijing-winter-olympics?__cf_chl_jschl_tk__=0d55f0865232ac935573fba4693681272e40c535-1616687049-0-AbllY11s8RspV35pSWjLGNK6zLqkI1l8SpTY4OclTPV6MxvSIxxKTQVqit3w7PxBzAvVTbK67gTbEcuedvC_UQC-7lmwJhyxJH0W3gib-tTyIn6OThknyMQRTM5lv9F03eGQFJd_zuH3kP-2yx6Fu0CaO3onroeEJN40zSuZgIpLZzJ2ij-yfvO7xpiDx7seuWQrsMP2ibdjGY5tlJXaPpIWtaIlMyBFQWDozapTofafDEkfC7g1D2FshQ0B5hnRHj4J9pe9Da6sjB9gk4za2j8TMc_uEhRMJJiOTNARKRgXkLR1XFbDvfnlRHiIXy1vAzDeT8Xi4BrzUpPDzmlHGc3NBvtval8gzF8DIlQSN5n1UNhPa6x_v0X1mk9HBXBCG_dVe1uathlSP-k31jbna-wYs1jT6OxKVwXUs-W84LMjtGU4vbrjKl6wLNkPqB8S-XZJY9k6sIZotGrbW7D2oDkqdo_4OKYg1WhESWZlgcDz 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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