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FIFA made the right decision for the first time in sooo long. As for UEFA’s bloc votes, it’s sad to see that even now individuals in FIFA don’t get to vote for themselves, & from a perspective of naked self-interest re 2030, the FA probably made the decision that’d piss off fewer voters, but the real insult is the reason given by UEFA - describing the Women’s World Cup as a ‘development tournament’. Whoever at UEFA came up with that one should be ashamed of themselves :angry: Congrats ANZ, hopefully you’ll show FIFA what 2022 could’ve been too if the brown envelopes hadn’t won. 

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Great post, I agree with every word, except...

2 hours ago, yoshi said:

FIFA made the right decision for the first time in sooo long.

I can't really argue against North America getting 2026 over Morocco. I think that was the obvious choice.

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Fair point, I kinda forgot that was actually a decision they had to make. It’s a good sign though that the technical evaluations matter again & will be important in determining who wins, unlike in Bl*tt*r’s era. Hopefully those calls will be enough for the Home Nations to be convinced to go for 2030. With that, it doesn’t really matter whether we win or not, as long as it’s a fair process - if Uruguay or someone else beat us fair & square, we should definitely go for the Women’s World Cup in 2027. (Tbh, I’d probably rather England went for that anyway but as I don’t think anyone could get both, & since the men’s one will be decided first, that’s the first to try for). 

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20 hours ago, Rob. said:

Lol, along with the rest of Europe I take it? Unfortunately UEFA decided to instruct its members to vote as a bloc. With UEFA saying they'll only support one European bid for 2030, stepping out of line and losing UEFA support for 2030 would end up being a much worse result for us than annoying New Zealand.

I don't know how you prevent that sort of thing going on, but bloc voting seems to be the way of things now for all confederations, and FAs seem reluctant to upset their continental apple carts as they're worried about the consequences.

I'm happy you guys won anyway! Looking forward to it. 

:D Just teasing... But really, there will be more revenue gained from TV/Online viewing now in the post Corona era. Naturally Aussies and Kiwis will fill out stadiums and probably a large horde of supporters from USA. I don't think a lot of Europeans would want to risk a flight to the other side of the world. We've only got three years to prepare. 

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I don't know about you but I'm keen to watch a few games live here in Christchurch, maybe even go to the opener in Auckland. 

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Australia will no doubt be playing the opening game but I can only imagine New Zealand will be playing their home game simultaneously on the same matchday. But what I am more interested in is the 2023 FIFA Women's World Cup Group Draw and seeing who ends up in Australia's group but also who ends up in New Zealand's group.

They still haven't told us the allocation for spots 

I mean since there will be 32 teams for 2023, it only makes sense that they use the same allocation for the Men back when the Men's World Cup had 32 teams

 

FIFA World Cup allocation when it was 32 teams for the men it worked out like this:

 

UEFA- (13 teams)

CONCACAF (3 teams)

CONMEBOL (5 teams)

CAF (5 teams) 

AFC (5 teams)

OFC (0.5)

 

But with the women how I would do it

 

UEFA (13 teams)

AFC (4 teams + host Australia which makes 5)

OFC (New Zealand as host) (1 team)

CAF (5 teams)

CONCACAF (4 teams)

CONMEBOL (4 teams)

 

Which makes up your 32 teams for Australia/New Zealand 2023

Just how I would do it if I am FIFA for the Women's game

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  • With allocation of spots, Asia has a much stronger womens game than mens- so I would expect Asia to snag a few more spots.
  • The opening ceremony is in Auckland, so a NZ match to open...not sure what day the first Australian match would be- maybe following?
  • Dont know if anyone looked at the ANZ Bid video, it was pretty cheap and terrible. But with all the opposition dropping out it didnt really matter!
  • The Head of England's FA is Prince William-the future King of Australia and NZ. So our future king's organisation voted against ANZ! I could understand if ANZ was a poor bid with a low technical ranking, but it won that as well! I hate the monarchy for many reasons...

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"ANZ Stadium is the proposed venue for the final while Eden Park in Auckland will likely host the opening ceremony and opening match....This is from the SMH..https://www.smh.com.au/sport/soccer/when-is-the-women-s-world-cup-all-you-need-to-know-about-the-tournament-20200626-p556ed.html

ANZ (Olympic) Stadium in Sydney is hosting the final and also the closing as well (I presume)

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Postecoglou wants ‘legacy’ facilities from 2023 Women's World Cup

Credit:  Sydney Morning Herald

By Vince Rugari  July 1, 2020 — 11.42am
 

Former Socceroos coach Ange Postecoglou wants Australia's successful 2023 Women's World Cup bid to leave behind a concrete legacy, arguing that football has too often been left empty-handed after hosting major sporting events.

Postecoglou declared the game was "headed in the right direction" in this country, endorsing the leadership of Football Federation Australia chairman Chris Nikou and chief executive James Johnson for making decisions in the best interests of the sport.

That includes the A-League's pending transition to a winter season and extends to Australia's joint bid with New Zealand to host the next Women's World Cup, which ended a decade of political heartbreak with FIFA.

But Postecoglou - who now coaches Japanese champions Yokohama F. Marinos - wants the triumph to lead to tangible outcomes for football when it comes to facilities and infrastructure.

He said football was one of the most popular sports at the Sydney 2000 Olympics, but it was actually the AFL and cricket which benefited the most from the Games.

Brisbane, where Postecoglou used to coach the Roar in the A-League, hosted seven men's football matches at the Olympics - but instead of a rectangular stadium being built, the Gabba was redeveloped, leaving an infrastructure gap for the round-ball code that still exists today.

"It is significant for football, significant for Australia, it's going to be an unbelievable tournament. The Matildas are going great guns and hopefully they have a good crack at it," Postecoglou said on SEN Radio.

"The only thing again is it's got to leave a legacy for our game because the Sydney Olympics football was the most participated sport and we got nothing out of it.

"The [2015] Asian Cup, we won and literally the next day, life went on without football having any sort of a legacy. Even the achievement itself hasn't really left much of a legacy.

"I know it's going to be a fantastic tournament because Australia always holds fantastic tournaments, but I hope it's significant for football in the long term - things like facilities, infrastructure, governments are buying into the game. I'm hoping that's going to be the most positive outcome at all."

Postecoglou credited the 'As One' bid team, particularly FFA's Mark Falvo and Jane Fernandez, for their behind-the-scenes work in winning over FIFA powerbrokers.

A critic of previous FFA administrations led by executives from other codes, he also expressed confidence in the game's current leaders and said he was a fan of the A-League's mooted switch from summer to winter.

"I don't mind it. If the football people within our code think that's the best way to go then believe it and go for it," he said.

"That's what I've always been critical of - we always look to outside sources to tell us where the game's best placed.
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"The best decisions we can make are ones that we believe are going to be good for football and if that's a winter season, then back it, go for it.

"I'm pretty impressed with what's happened in the last few weeks ... I'm a big rap, he's a mate of mine, of the chairman [Nikou] who's the best kind of chairman because he's fairly anonymous and just gets the work done.

"I think James Johnson's a fantastic appointment, he's a football person. As long as they're making football decisions, I think they're headed in the right direction."

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On 6/27/2020 at 6:56 AM, Rob. said:

Great post, I agree with every word, except...

I can't really argue against North America getting 2026 over Morocco. I think that was the obvious choice.

I think it will honestly be pretty horrendous for players and fans. The USSF only cares about stuffing it pockets with cash, so you can expect them to pick hosts by how much money they can make rather than making travel easy for the national teams and fans following their teams. 

On the flip side I can't wait to hear their explanation for how it is actually environmentally friendly to route a team 10,000 km  in the group stage from Montreal to Los Angeles to New York to Houston.

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9 minutes ago, Nacre said:

I think it will honestly be pretty horrendous for players and fans. The USSF only cares about stuffing it pockets with cash, so you can expect them to pick hosts by how much money they can make rather than making travel easy for the national teams and fans following their teams. 

On the flip side I can't wait to hear their explanation for how it is actually environmentally friendly to route a team 10,000 km  in the group stage from Montreal to Los Angeles to New York to Houston.

The 1994 World Cup still holds the record for highest attendance, and that was with only 24 teams before they expanded.  So clearly it wasn't that horrendous.  Yes, I know the stories about European fans used to travelling by train who found it a little tougher to get around.  Did Brazil not have to deal with that?  Russia?  And I'm pretty sure fans will welcome the North American experience with open arms after dealing with a World Cup held in Qatar.

So save the sanctimonious nonsense as if the US-Canada-Mexico bid wasn't an obvious choice for 2026 over Morocco.  It'll be an outstanding World Cup.  And remember with expansion comes the new group stage format.  1/3 of all the teams will only play 2 games, so travel is not likely to be a major concern.

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7 hours ago, Nacre said:

I think it will honestly be pretty horrendous for players and fans. The USSF only cares about stuffing it pockets with cash, so you can expect them to pick hosts by how much money they can make rather than making travel easy for the national teams and fans following their teams. 

On the flip side I can't wait to hear their explanation for how it is actually environmentally friendly to route a team 10,000 km  in the group stage from Montreal to Los Angeles to New York to Houston.

 

Don’t be ridiculous.

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On 7/2/2020 at 10:13 PM, Quaker2001 said:

The 1994 World Cup still holds the record for highest attendance, and that was with only 24 teams before they expanded.  So clearly it wasn't that horrendous.  Yes, I know the stories about European fans used to travelling by train who found it a little tougher to get around.  Did Brazil not have to deal with that?  Russia?  

Actually Russia is a good example, as the fans DID NOT have to be routed all over the country. Russia only picked host cities in the European part of Russia. There were no games in Krasnoyarsk, Yakutsk, Vladivostok and so on. So the distance was about the same as using only the cities on the east coast of the USA + Canada. If they only used New York, Boston, Toronto, Chicago, Atlanta, Miami, New Orleans et al then it would in fact be a lot easier for the national teams and fans.

Similarly I hope the ANZAC world cup will group teams so they do not have to fly between Australia and New Zealand during the group stages.

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