Quaker2001 Posted March 25 Report Share Posted March 25 On 3/23/2023 at 1:18 AM, krow said: wait, could the USOC demand the IOC drop russia from its neutral athlete position as a condition for taking 2030? i realize i sound crazy for asking that, but it would be so, so hilarious. They won't, but I agree that would be amazing to see Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AustralianFan Posted March 29 Report Share Posted March 29 Just in from IOC Executive Board Meeting. IOC list of six interested cities has since grown. ….. very interesting re 2030 and beyond. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AustralianFan Posted March 29 Report Share Posted March 29 This 2030 problem just got turned it’s head. Pretty amazing actually that there is six plus interested cities in 2030 and beyond. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Quaker2001 Posted March 30 Report Share Posted March 30 3 hours ago, AustralianFan said: This 2030 problem just got turned it’s head. Pretty amazing actually that there is six plus interested cities in 2030 and beyond. Yes, it's really amazing that it's March of 2023 and there are six interested cities and we have absolutely no idea who they are. You of all people should know that "interested" doesn't mean much. This is just pandering on the part of the IOC to distract from the Russia situation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stryker Posted March 30 Report Share Posted March 30 31 minutes ago, Quaker2001 said: Yes, it's really amazing that it's March of 2023 and there are six interested cities and we have absolutely no idea who they are. You of all people should know that "interested" doesn't mean much. This is just pandering on the part of the IOC to distract from the Russia situation. I highly doubt this is nothing more than a coincidence as well that this announcement comes less than 48 hours after the IOC's official stance on Russia and the negative heat they are taking for it? Seems like a perfect opportunity to cook up another story, even though it's completely ridiculous, to get the media talking about something else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanMUC Posted March 30 Report Share Posted March 30 Funny thing is, no media outlet I have seen has even taken it up. The only IOC coverage is Russia related. They’ve really lost it in Lausanne with these kinds of publicity stunts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AustralianFan Posted March 30 Report Share Posted March 30 7 hours ago, Quaker2001 said: Yes, it's really amazing that it's March of 2023 and there are six interested cities and we have absolutely no idea who they are. You of all people should know that "interested" doesn't mean much. This is just pandering on the part of the IOC to distract from the Russia situation. 7 hours ago, stryker said: I highly doubt this is nothing more than a coincidence as well that this announcement comes less than 48 hours after the IOC's official stance on Russia and the negative heat they are taking for it? Seems like a perfect opportunity to cook up another story, even though it's completely ridiculous, to get the media talking about something else. 3 hours ago, StefanMUC said: Funny thing is, no media outlet I have seen has even taken it up. The only IOC coverage is Russia related. They’ve really lost it in Lausanne with these kinds of publicity stunts. Update: Renewed Interest in Winter Games Winter Olympics report on 2030 and beyond STARTS ar 14:30 in the media conference, followed by journalists questions. ****************************** Here is the link to the Day 2 IOC Executive Board Meeting Media Conference to the world’s media 29 March 2023. Renewed interest from a growing list including six interested parties in the 2030 Olympic Winter Games and beyond, including and specifically Canada is covered in the media conference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AustralianFan Posted March 30 Report Share Posted March 30 9 minutes ago, AustralianFan said: Update: Renewed Interest in Winter Games Winter Olympics report on 2030 and beyond STARTS ar 14:30 in the media conference, followed by journalists questions. ****************************** Here is the link to the Day 2 IOC Executive Board Meeting Media Conference to the world’s media 29 March 2023. Renewed interest from a growing list including six interested parties in the 2030 Olympic Winter Games and beyond, including and specifically Canada is covered in the media conference. >>>>> Rob Livingstone from Gamesbids.com question and responses re 2030 and 2034 Games begins at 22:15 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stryker Posted March 30 Report Share Posted March 30 1 hour ago, AustralianFan said: Update: Renewed Interest in Winter Games Winter Olympics report on 2030 and beyond STARTS ar 14:30 in the media conference, followed by journalists questions. ****************************** Here is the link to the Day 2 IOC Executive Board Meeting Media Conference to the world’s media 29 March 2023. Renewed interest from a growing list including six interested parties in the 2030 Olympic Winter Games and beyond, including and specifically Canada is covered in the media conference. Fake news. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sigh Posted March 30 Report Share Posted March 30 While there may be some substance behind the latest EB PR show it's hard to take it seriously. Given the vagueness of the EB announcement, the desperate situation IOC finds itself in combined with the lack of confidence in EB felt by many makes it very easy to be cynical. The one concrete information they had was about Vancouver. A Vancouver zombie bid is still dependent on government guarantees. The problem there is that that bar has been raised significantly. Now they have to change an already taken decision. That's extremely hard. People have a strong tendency to cling to decisions they have taken even if conditions change drastically and even more if conditions haven't changed. That's even more pronounced when it comes to politicians. What could the substance be of any other interest be? It's very vague at best. Before taking that seriously I'd prefer at least some basic information. According to IOC's own rules, before entering any final discussions there should be a referendum. To arrange that takes time and the clock is ticking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AustralianFan Posted March 30 Report Share Posted March 30 KEY JOURNALISTS QUESTIONS AND IOC ANSWERS 29 March 2023, IOC EB Media Conference, Day 2 Journalist: Rob Livingstone: “Thanks Mark, my question for Christoph: a couple of weeks ago the USOPC Chair made some comments on the 2030 bid process, he said ‘the IOC has been looking to find a city that would offer a good alternative to Salt Lake City for 2030’, and he said ‘they, the IOC, understands our preference and they have the same preference as we do for 2034 if possible. Can you confirm that and perhaps elaborate on that, and if so, what would be the timeline here for this 2030 city? Christophe Dubi (IOC): “So several questions into one, nicely packaged. The first thing is we have to respect the willingness of Salt Lake City. I think they have clearly indicated that 2034 is their preference. They also said time and again that they stand ready in case of 2030. With the decision from the Executive Board we have, as I said before, a true renewed interest and it is incredibly reassuring, we have a number of parties and I’m sorry of I cannot reveal who at this stage, we have to respect this confidentiality. But a number of parties who have come to the table. The question on the timing is interesting. First and foremost, the Future Host Commission has to respond to these three strategic questions that were proposed to re the future hosts. The EB wants to know if the Rotating Pool is a good idea, whether 2030 and 2034 makes sense, but also to look at the development of winter sports. This work is ongoing and we will anticipate that first, a report will br made to the Executive Board, and to the IOC Session in Mumbai as Mark confirmed before. Which leads us to a calendar after Mumbai for the election. Now if you look at those parties that came to the table at this point in time, they are very mature winter markets. So, I’m definitely not worried with the timing knowing that we’re going to, as we’ve done with Milano and Cortina, a region or a country that has the infrastructure and are used to organising high level events in World Cups or World Championships. So, we’re not by time for the election. Journalist: Rob Livingstone: “So you seem to imply that Salt Lake City was going to be hosting in 2030 or 2034, is that the case? Can that be confirmed? Christophe Dubi (IOC): “No, no, I can’t confirm, this is the work that the Future Host Commission has to do then you know it really goes to the Executive Board and then the Session. So many steps but they have clearly mentioned their interest and as you’ve seen they are very committee indeed.” Journalist: Lisa Rosh (Deseret News): “Christophe, I wonder if you could elaborate on some comments you made recentl that there were six parties, six regions I believe you said, interested in hosting a future winter games and in discussions with the IOC. We know of four who have expressed public interest. Is the number still 6? and if not what is the number and I’m guessing you won’t name the other two. So what would you say to people who have raised concerns about the fairness of the process, that cities who come forward publicily commit to hosting and engage the public are competing againat cities that aren’t willing to do so. What would you say to people who raise concerns about that? Thankyou. Christophe Dubi (IOC): “Thankyou Lisa. The fairness starts where the respect of the other party and what is really important for us is to have, as we’ve done for 2032 and the awarding to Brisbane, to respect the confidentiality at a time when the discussions are informal, where, everybody is gauging the interest, the feasibility and that has tomremain confidential. Once however we move to a Continuous Dialogue, if the parties are clear that they want to express publicly, because they want to and have to engage, they have to speak openly about their project, here we are very happy to go with this as well and follow the lead of the interested party. So the process is very fair, from the moment that there are a number of parties that are in Contunuous Dialogue, that are engaged, want to go through the assessment by the IOC, and that’s very important that at the time of the Continuous Dialogue, the IOC is conducting the Feasibility Study so that we don’t ask anything from those interested parties, and so the time is set for the Targeted Dialogue leading to the election by the IOC Session. So I think it is very fair, everybody knows the conditions, everybody knows that the time to discuss behind closed doors, and once we can reveal the various projects because they want to do so, then it clarifies the matter for all those that are interested. So, again I don’t see at all a question of fairness and, by the way, this is a question that I’ve not had with any of the interested parties at this stage. Journalist: Lisa Rosh (Deseret News): “Just a follow-up question Christophe, you has previously said six regions were in discussions with the IOC about a future Winter Games. Is the number still six or has that number increased with what you have indicated today about renewed interest? And whatis the number now? Christophe Dubi (IOC): “As we speak it is probably increasing further.” >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AustralianFan Posted March 30 Report Share Posted March 30 32 minutes ago, stryker said: Fake news. Perhaps you should read or watch the Journalists questions and the IOC’s Answers above, transcipts of which were just posted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stryker Posted March 30 Report Share Posted March 30 55 minutes ago, AustralianFan said: Perhaps you should read or watch the Journalists questions and the IOC’s Answers above, transcipts of which were just posted. I have and it's about as credible as Fox News with Tucker Carlson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AustralianFan Posted March 30 Report Share Posted March 30 42 minutes ago, stryker said: I have and it's about as credible as Fox News with Tucker Carlson Ho hum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FYI Posted March 30 Report Share Posted March 30 2 hours ago, stryker said: Fake news. 54 minutes ago, stryker said: I have and it's about as credible as Fox News with *P*ucker Carlson Fixed that for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FYI Posted March 30 Report Share Posted March 30 OMFG - what a bunch of ambiguous “word salad” drivel that was (to say the least)! Gotta LUV Dubi’s opening to Rob’s question though: “So, several questions into one, nicely packaged”. In other words, “how dare you sneak in so many fricken questions at once, you doofus!” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AustralianFan Posted March 30 Report Share Posted March 30 IOC Executive Board Meeting 28-30 March Final - Day 3 Media Conference 30 March 2023 Starting shortly @ 23:30 AEDT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FYI Posted March 30 Report Share Posted March 30 HO HUM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AustralianFan Posted March 30 Report Share Posted March 30 "We have a true renewed interest, and it is incredibly reassuring," Dubi said following the second day of the IOC Executive Board meeting. "We have a number of parties, and I am sorry if I cannot reveal who at this stage, but there are a number of parties that have come to the table. "If you look at those parties that have come to the table at this point in time these are very mature winter markets so I am definitely not worried with the timing knowing that we are going to go to, as we have with Milan and Cortina, a region or country that has the infrastructure and are used to organising high-level events being World Cups or World Championships so we are not pressed for time for the election." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AustralianFan Posted March 30 Report Share Posted March 30 More Winter Games host candidates energe, IOC says, but won’t name names “Now there are even more contenders to host a future Winter Games.” “We have new interest,” IOC Olympic Games Executive Director Christophe Dubi told reporters during a virtual news conference Wednesday, following the second of three days of closed-door executive board meetings in Switzerland.” “Dubi declined to say how many places are now in confidential talks with the IOC about hosting a Winter Games, but said the number has increased from the six previously confirmed.” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stryker Posted March 30 Report Share Posted March 30 56 minutes ago, FYI said: Fixed that for you. Thanks for the correction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AustralianFan Posted March 30 Report Share Posted March 30 4 minutes ago, AustralianFan said: More Winter Games host candidates energe, IOC says, but won’t name names “Now there are even more contenders to host a future Winter Games.” “We have new interest,” IOC Olympic Games Executive Director Christophe Dubi told reporters during a virtual news conference Wednesday, following the second of three days of closed-door executive board meetings in Switzerland.” “Dubi declined to say how many places are now in confidential talks with the IOC about hosting a Winter Games, but said the number has increased from the six previously confirmed.” Credit: More Winter Games host candidates emerge, IOC says, but won’t name names - Deseret News - 30 March 2023 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AustralianFan Posted March 30 Report Share Posted March 30 In progress now …. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quaker2001 Posted March 30 Report Share Posted March 30 2 hours ago, AustralianFan said: In progress now …. I'm amazed that you're following all this and buying what the IOC is selling. This isn't us trying to cobble together a list of interested parties through media reports. If Dubi is being asked a direct question and he can't answer it, maybe we should be questioning what's going on and not blindly taking him at his word that there might be 6 possibilities out there to host the 2030 Olympics, but he can't say who any of them are Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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